archie bunker Loc: Texas

It keeps nagging at me as to why all of this wasn't an issue until very recently. Those statues have been there for generations. Now they're an offensive issue? WTF?
It's pretty obvious to me what's going on. Is it to you?

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Obammy !

donald.rentfrow

Obammy for sure................

Cherokee38 Loc: Atlanta

The brainy people who started this show how much they know about history. It started over taxation introduced by Lincoln that raised taxes in the south from 20% to 47%. Although the south was less than 30% of population they were paying more than 40% of taxes. They seceded from the Union at that time to control their tax rate. By the way, Grant (for those who don't know was commander of the Union troops) owned slaves! Lee, commander of the southern troops did not own slaves, but was fighting for state rights!! Let's take a quick look at history, Romans had slaves, Egyptians had slaves, slavery still occurs in parts of the world today. Should all of the monuments they all built be torn down? It is history, removeing those items does not change history. Let's look at today, I HAVE NEVER OWNED SLAVES NOR DID MY PARENTS. I DON'T KNOW ANY BLACK TODAY THAT HAS BEEN FORCED TO PICK COTTON. We both know what happened in the past, but it is the past. What is important is today and the future. Let us move forward.

ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

When you think it through, it is impossible not to be reminded of the NAZI book burning.
Could it be that those who want to remove our history today are the same ones who have been crying out against the NAZI and now indirectly praise them and their actions ?

Pathetic - what?

ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

Here in NC a group of anarchist have pulled down a confederate statue. So far; four have been arrested and charged with multiple felony.

Our newly elected (Democratic) governor is suggesting that we remove all of the confederate statues in our state. I think he represents the NAZI party and should be ashamed. I think he should be removed!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Hello sir! I was thinking about this at work last night, and remembered that there is an elementary school here in Amarillo named Robert E. Lee Elementary. I googled it, and their home page calls it Lee Elementary. So, after work, I drove by it, and it still says Robert E. Lee Elementary School on the building. It's happening here too, and I have no say since I don't live in town, and can't vote in city elections.
This is disturbing at best.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

I agree with you. These people ARE acting like the NAZIS. They call us that, but they ARE that. This is nuts!

Kevyn

The history revisionists were those who initially installed those monuments to celebrate a vanquished enemy of the United States. This was done specifically to intimidate black southerners. Removing these abominations is correcting revisionist history and telling the true story of our glorious victory over the treasonous rebels.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

"Done specifically to intimidate black southerners." Do you have any proof of this statement Butterbutt?

buffalo Loc: Texas

Since We're Tearing Down Offensive Statues, Here Are Locations of Three Lenin Statues in America


BY BENNY JOHNSON

Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation

It's become very trendy to tear down offensive statues in America these days.

According to previous IJR reporting, a Confederate statue in Durham, North Carolina, was ripped to the ground by a mob of progressive protesters. The protesters cited the statue's racist, violent symbolism for their actions.

If we as a society are going to begin the process of tearing down statues of terrible people, there should be absolutely no argument against tearing down a number of Vladimir Lenin statues which proudly stand in America today. Here is a little background on the Soviet leader, just so we're all on the same page as to what a monster Lenin was, and why his likeness does not deserve space on any American street.

Lenin killed millions of his own people, many in concentration camps, and openly sought the execution of political adversaries. He paved the way for Soviet occupation of free nations in the vicinity of Russia and established the one-party communist state, which led to unthinkable genocide and mass murder. In a previous article, IJR reported:

The oppressive Soviet regime came to power through a bloody coup in 1917 and exercised a death grip over most of Eastern Europe after World War II. The Union crumbled in the late 1980s, leaving in its wake broken, fractured nations and a horrific logbook of deaths. The war histories website, Necrometrics.com, has averaged academic reports on the overall arc of the Soviet Union and come to this conclusion: 56 to 62 million “unnatural deaths” for the USSR overall, with 34 to 49 million under Stalin.

It's safe to say that no statue of this man belongs in America, or the world for that matter. Yet here are three places where you can visit in America today which pay homage to the bloodthirsty Soviet leader:

This 18-foot Lenin statue carries quite the history. It was originally commissioned by the USSR, but the implosion of that country in 1989 – the year Red Square was built at 250 East Houston – prevented its display. The developers of the property, Michael Shaoul and Michael Rosen, reportedly found it trashed in a backyard just outside Moscow and installed it five years later.

Indeed, it somehow seems fitting, given the current political climate, that a statue of the Russian communist revolutionary would return to a Lower East Side rooftop. And so it goes.

Early Friday afternoon, workers were spotted hoisting the eighteen-foot, Soviet-era sculpture into place at 178 Norfolk Street. The copper tribute had been leaning on its side here since last September.

Michael Rosen and Michael Shaoul, co-owners/developers of the original Red Square, where the statue held court from 1994, reportedly own this walk-up tenement beside the Angel Orensanz Center.

The path to Seattle from Poprad, Slovakia, for this 8-ton bronze of the Communist revolutionary occurred because Lewis Carpenter of Issaquah saw it, bought it and brought it back after the collapse of the Soviet bloc.

He died in 1994, but the family still owns it, and Jon Hegeman, with the Fremont Arts Council, says it’s still for sale for $250,000 or best offer.

The 16-foot Lenin, striding boldly and backed by flames and firearms, still evokes strong responses, though he died 91 years ago.

Lenin was responsible for untold deaths, and many equate him with Hitler and Stalin. Vandals often paint the statue’s hands blood red.

And as IJR reported earlier about this statue:

“In July, someone started a Facebook page calling for its removal. However, there’s been no call by the far leftists of Antifa to tear down the statue of the communist dictator and murderer.”

At some point in the last six years, you may have driven down La Brea Avenue and spotted a large metallic bust of Vladimir Lenin with a smaller version of “Miss Mao” on top of his head with a balancing pole. You have probably wondered what it is, why it's there, and to whom it belongs. The first two questions are better left for another time, but the statue, named “Miss Mao Trying to Poise Herself at the Top of Lenin’s Head”, was created by the Gao Brothers, and has been on display with the Ace Gallery since 2011.

We know most of these are private property, but you forget, there is no private property in the Soviet Union, comrade!

So get to work!

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/08/948200-since-tearing-offensive-statues-locations-three-lenin-statues-america/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_campaign=ods&utm_content=Culture

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Archie - I think you may not have been paying attention. The movement to remove statues celebrating Confederate military heroes is nothing new at all. Here's an article from 2015:

http://www.wuft.org/news/2015/06/30/residents-call-for-removal-of-local-confederate-statue/

What does seem to be new is White Supremacists marching and making an issue out of the statues' removal.

Personally, I think they should not be destroyed, but moved to museums where they can be properly displayed as reminders of a horrific chapter in our country's history. They celebrate those who sought to tear our country apart, and I have always thought they have no place as monuments to that in our cities and towns.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

2015? Hmmm......why not before? By your logic Paul, there are statues all across the nation that need tearing down because of the history behind them. Wanna talk about those? Robert Byrd for example? Well?
This is bullshit, and you know it Paul!!

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

As I stated previously.......Obammy !

Obammy is behind it all .

Call it, "The Obammy Syndrome".

A sickness infecting millions of wussified Americans.

You're a vector.................PUNK !

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

How about tearing down these statues of Harvey Milk one of the founders of the "gay rights movement" and a pederast

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