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Jul 24, 2017 00:15:14   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Ooph wrote:
How do you know that all those leaks about Hillary "didn't change any votes"? Also, there is an ongoing investigation about collusion: wait for its findings to say NO COLLUSION. But my only point in the thread I noted was that Russia meddled in our election; almost every Rightie scoffed or mocked such an idea (besides the name-calling and insults by others over this "commie bs"). Read the comments. They were all wrong. None are objective, inquisitive, or reflective. High-fiving each other over their attacks on me. Children.
How do you know that all those leaks about Hillary... (show quote)


Perhaps you should rethink calling these gentlemen children!?!??! They're not the ones pretending to be someone they're not. Rumi, you must be really lonely or bored or partaking in something stimulating, you're all over this forum!

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Jul 24, 2017 02:15:48   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Nickolai wrote:
I disagree the Russians had 1,000 operatives flooding the internet and social media with fake news. Hillary had a double digit lead and when they began hacking and leaking John Podesta's emails she quickly fell to even I the polls and still won by 2.8 million votes but Trump knew to win he needed to turn the rust belt red and he did that sweet talking and conning the people


According to who nimrod? More bs. Shut up and secede before you go bankrupt.

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Jul 24, 2017 02:16:44   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Nickolai wrote:
Hillary was more fit to serve than the egomaniacal pompous blow hard but she was the greater of the republican candidates she is not a liberal she is more like a 1960's republican. She was born to a republican parents and was a Goldwater Girl stumping for Goldwater


Hillary isn't fit to breathe.

Secede.

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Jul 24, 2017 02:20:07   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Nickolai wrote:
President Donald Trump repeated an incorrect claim on Thursday that Hillary Clinton gave Russia 20 percent of the United States' uranium while serving as secretary of State.
The fact-checking website PolitiFact has determined that statement, which Trump first made on the campaign trail, is mostly false.
"We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things," Trump said during a press conference.

The claim isn't true. Between 2009 and 2013, Russia's atomic energy agency, Rosatom, purchased a majority stake in a Canadian company called Uranium One, The New York Times reported in 2015. The Toronto-based firm's mining assets in Wyoming, Utah and elsewhere in the United States account for about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity, according to the Times.
PolitiFact pointed out that 20 percent of uranium capacity is different from 20 percent of existing uranium. Moreover, the State Department was one of nine government agencies that had to sign off on the deals. Other federal and state regulators also had to approve them.
Clinton was the nation's top diplomat when the sales took place, and the Obama administration was still trying to reset relations with Moscow at the time, PolitiFact noted.
However, Clinton did not represent the State Department on the panel of agency officials who approve deals such as the Uranium One transaction. The representative at the time, former Assistant Secretary Jose Fernandez, told the Times, "Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter," referring to the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.
The national security question raised by the transaction at the time centered on whether it would make the United States reliant on foreign sources of uranium, not on the proliferation of nuclear weapons, the Times reported. The United States and Russia had exchanged enriched and raw uranium for years, according to the Times.
President Donald Trump repeated an incorrect claim... (show quote)


How dumb are you? Uranium is NOT "nuclear weapons". Lord!

It is a fissionable material which nuclear weapons may contain.

Secede dummy.

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Jul 24, 2017 04:56:29   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
Docadhoc wrote:
It's their problem. Providing truth to a liberal is an exercise in futility so I quit trying. Let them find out the hard way. Now I'll comment and they can do whatever. I don't care any more.





Hey Doc, your right, it is there problem. And like you said, .... If I may put a little different slant on your point. .... " Providing truth to a liberal is like administering medicine to the dead."

It wont ever work.


RETW

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Jul 24, 2017 05:22:55   #
Steve700
 
Nickolai wrote:
But the fake news on the internet and social media affected public opinion and demonized Clinton in the minds of some people

For your information the fake news is TV news, (cable and otherwise) The leftist side of social media has gotten their back asswords opinion mostly from the likes of David Letterman, John Stuart and Bill Marr. How sick does a person have to be to want a terribly corrupt crazy lying bitch who sells her influence and America's favor for her own personal gain for your president rather than a man who gave up the life he loves to restore America ???? ------- pass so I forgot you don't want America restored, you wanted fundamentally transformed into Marxism/communism.

You should REALLY Just Shut The Fu*ck Up 'cuz your political ideas of who's who & what's what is totally distorted. It's Evil Corrupt Perverted Marxist nonsense. You have no idea what you're talking about. Let me make it real simple for you: Conservative = Good ---- Liberalism = Bad -------- Conservativism = Truth, Honesty, Integrity, Discipline, Self Reliance, Hard Work, Successful, God-fearing, Thankful & Appreciative, Taxpaying, Givers to Charity, Patriotic Love of Country. ---- on the other hand ---- Liberalism = Malcontent, Low Opinion of & Fault Finding with One's Owns Country, Dependent Rather Than Self Sufficient, Stunted Maturity & Political Understanding, Victim & Entitlement Mentality, Angry & Unappreciative, Often Lowlife Mentality, Hates the the Righteous & Supports the Degenerate, Calls Principles Prejudices due to Truths & Avoidance Syndrome, Self delusion maintained with the help of Defiant Opposition Disorder, has Contempt for Christian morality and & Hates Conservatives but Applauds Diversity As Long As it Includes the Democratic Vote (Once these Hallmarks of the Left & Right Have Been Pointed Out, the Truth of It Should be Quite Obvious to Anyone with a Modicum of Self-Awareness)

Also: University studies have shown that Republicans give 6 times more to charity, are 9 times less likely to commit crimes, give 4 times as much in tips. Liberals get married less and have more children out of wedlock. (because they are more self absorbed) In short, most Liberals have more respect for Satan than they do for Jesus.

So until that becomes implanted in your noggin and you learn to articulate it properly, why don't you just .....



If you disagree with what I've said please be very specific and tell me exactly where and why I am wrong
If you disagree with what I've said please be very...

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Jul 24, 2017 15:16:46   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Steve700 wrote:
For your information the fake news is TV news, (cable and otherwise) The leftist side of social media has gotten their back asswords opinion mostly from the likes of David Letterman, John Stuart and Bill Marr. How sick does a person have to be to want a terribly corrupt crazy lying bitch who sells her influence and America's favor for her own personal gain for your president rather than a man who gave up the life he loves to restore America ???? ------- pass so I forgot you don't want America restored, you wanted fundamentally transformed into Marxism/communism.

You should REALLY Just Shut The Fu*ck Up 'cuz your political ideas of who's who & what's what is totally distorted. It's Evil Corrupt Perverted Marxist nonsense. You have no idea what you're talking about. Let me make it real simple for you: Conservative = Good ---- Liberalism = Bad -------- Conservativism = Truth, Honesty, Integrity, Discipline, Self Reliance, Hard Work, Successful, God-fearing, Thankful & Appreciative, Taxpaying, Givers to Charity, Patriotic Love of Country. ---- on the other hand ---- Liberalism = Malcontent, Low Opinion of & Fault Finding with One's Owns Country, Dependent Rather Than Self Sufficient, Stunted Maturity & Political Understanding, Victim & Entitlement Mentality, Angry & Unappreciative, Often Lowlife Mentality, Hates the the Righteous & Supports the Degenerate, Calls Principles Prejudices due to Truths & Avoidance Syndrome, Self delusion maintained with the help of Defiant Opposition Disorder, has Contempt for Christian morality and & Hates Conservatives but Applauds Diversity As Long As it Includes the Democratic Vote (Once these Hallmarks of the Left & Right Have Been Pointed Out, the Truth of It Should be Quite Obvious to Anyone with a Modicum of Self-Awareness)

Also: University studies have shown that Republicans give 6 times more to charity, are 9 times less likely to commit crimes, give 4 times as much in tips. Liberals get married less and have more children out of wedlock. (because they are more self absorbed) In short, most Liberals have more respect for Satan than they do for Jesus.

So until that becomes implanted in your noggin and you learn to articulate it properly, why don't you just .....
For your information the fake news is TV news, (ca... (show quote)


That pretty well covers it, Steve.
Hypocrisy, heaped on hypocrisy by liberals in sooo many ways.
A review;
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You should REALLY Just Shut The Fu*ck Up 'cuz your political ideas of who's who & what's what is totally distorted. It's Evil Corrupt Perverted Marxist nonsense. You have no idea what you're talking about. Let me make it real simple for you: Conservative = Good ---- Liberalism = Bad -------- Conservativism = Truth, Honesty, Integrity, Discipline, Self Reliance, Hard Work, Successful, God-fearing, Thankful & Appreciative, Taxpaying, Givers to Charity, Patriotic Love of Country. ---- on the other hand ---- Liberalism = Malcontent, Low Opinion of & Fault Finding with One's Owns Country, Dependent Rather Than Self Sufficient, Stunted Maturity & Political Understanding, Victim & Entitlement Mentality, Angry & Unappreciative, Often Lowlife Mentality, Hates the the Righteous & Supports the Degenerate, Calls Principles Prejudices due to Truths & Avoidance Syndrome, Self delusion maintained with the help of Defiant Opposition Disorder, has Contempt for Christian morality and & Hates Conservatives but Applauds Diversity"...

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Jul 24, 2017 16:58:02   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
TexaCan wrote:
Perhaps you should rethink calling these gentlemen children!?!??! They're not the ones pretending to be someone they're not. Rumi, you must be really lonely or bored or partaking in something stimulating, you're all over this forum!


There are no leaks. These are nothing more that false garbage creations intended to make people doubt, and they are termed leaks to look like truths.

Calling them leaks is playing their game.

If I actually thought our government was that porous that we could get so much inside information so easily, I'd move. It cracks me up to see how gullible people are.

Bottom line: none of us have a clue and all this rhetoric is speculation and sour grapes.

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Jul 24, 2017 17:22:23   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Docadhoc wrote:
There are no leaks. These are nothing more that false garbage creations intended to make people doubt, and they are termed leaks to look like truths.

Calling them leaks is playing their game.

If I actually thought our government was that porous that we could get so much inside information so easily, I'd move. It cracks me up to see how gullible people are.

Bottom line: none of us have a clue and all this rhetoric is speculation and sour grapes.

Exactly, leaks in the true sense means correct information has been transferred from a group that wants secrecy.
This is anti Trump sharting from those assigned to take him down.

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Jul 25, 2017 11:47:16   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Nickolai wrote:
But the fake news on the internet and social media affected public opinion and demonized Clinton in the minds of some people


Was it fake news that Hillary had a secret server that was not protected by the government? Was it fake news the Comey said she had not given all of her emails to the government? Was it fake news that said she had given all of her emails to the government? Was it fake news, that said, that many emails containing classified information had been found when the FBI checked the server? Was it fake news when Hillary said she was under sniper fire when she landed in Bosnia? Was it Hillary that said she had never told the families, of the men killed in the Benghazi Libya, it was caused by an internet video, when she had already known that was a lie? I could go on and on but that may prove to be fruitless with you dumbed down liberals who believe what ever cones out of the mouths of other liberals and believe nothing that is said by conservatives, even when faced with hard evidence. All of this Russian collusion nonsense is just because all or most of the liberals fail to understand that Hillary did not run a good campaign even with all of the money she spent to defeat Trump. There has been about one 1
year of trying to find evidence of that fact. After all of that time the FBI has brought no evidence to the Congress. What a waste of our money.

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Jul 25, 2017 11:55:38   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Louie27 wrote:
Was it fake news that Hillary had a secret server that was not protected by the government? Was it fake news the Comey said she had not given all of her emails to the government? Was it fake news that said she had given all of her emails to the government? Was it fake news, that said, that many emails containing classified information had been found when the FBI checked the server? Was it fake news when Hillary said she was under sniper fire when she landed in Bosnia? Was it Hillary that said she had never told the families, of the men killed in the Benghazi Libya, it was caused by an internet video, when she had already known that was a lie? I could go on and on but that may prove to be fruitless with you dumbed down liberals who believe what ever cones out of the mouths of other liberals and believe nothing that is said by conservatives, even when faced with hard evidence. All of this Russian collusion nonsense is just because all or most of the liberals fail to understand that Hillary did not run a good campaign even with all of the money she spent to defeat Trump. There has been about one 1
year of trying to find evidence of that fact. After all of that time the FBI has brought no evidence to the Congress. What a waste of our money.
Was it fake news that Hillary had a secret server ... (show quote)


Yep, Louie.
No answers to that.

NSA Officials and Computer Expert: Forensic Evidence Proves DNC Emails Were LEAKED, Not Hacked

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-24/nsa-officials-and-computer-expert-forensic-evidence-proves-dnc-emails-were-leaked-no


A Tid bit from this article;
"Mr. President:

This is our first VIPS Memorandum for you, but we have a history of letting U.S. Presidents know when we think our former intelligence colleagues have gotten something important wrong, and why. For example, our first such memorandum, a same-day commentary for President George W. Bush on Colin Powell’s U.N. speech on March 5, 2003, warned that the “unintended consequences were likely to be catastrophic,” should the U.S. attack Iraq and “justfy” the war on intelligence that we retired intelligence officers could readily see as fraudulent and driven by a war agenda.

The January 6 “Intelligence Community Assessment” by “hand-picked” analysts from the FBI, CIA, and NSA seems to fit into the same agenda-driven category. It is largely based on an “assessment,” not supported by any apparent evidence, that a shadowy entity with the moniker “Guccifer 2.0” hacked the DNC on behalf of Russian intelligence and gave DNC emails to WikiLeaks."….

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Jul 25, 2017 11:56:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
What's even more curious is this investigation into the Pakistani employees (three brothers) that Democrats, specifically Wassermann -Shultz used for the DNC. Seems they stole information and Shultz didn't want her computers looked at by law enforcement. Now we discover that the computers have been smashed. Seems the DNC doesn't want an investigation into who really hacked into their system.
Louie27 wrote:
Was it fake news that Hillary had a secret server that was not protected by the government? Was it fake news the Comey said she had not given all of her emails to the government? Was it fake news that said she had given all of her emails to the government? Was it fake news, that said, that many emails containing classified information had been found when the FBI checked the server? Was it fake news when Hillary said she was under sniper fire when she landed in Bosnia? Was it Hillary that said she had never told the families, of the men killed in the Benghazi Libya, it was caused by an internet video, when she had already known that was a lie? I could go on and on but that may prove to be fruitless with you dumbed down liberals who believe what ever cones out of the mouths of other liberals and believe nothing that is said by conservatives, even when faced with hard evidence. All of this Russian collusion nonsense is just because all or most of the liberals fail to understand that Hillary did not run a good campaign even with all of the money she spent to defeat Trump. There has been about one 1
year of trying to find evidence of that fact. After all of that time the FBI has brought no evidence to the Congress. What a waste of our money.
Was it fake news that Hillary had a secret server ... (show quote)

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Jul 25, 2017 12:12:32   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JFlorio wrote:
What's even more curious is this investigation into the Pakistani employees (three brothers) that Democrats, specifically Wassermann -Shultz used for the DNC. Seems they stole information and Shultz didn't want her computers looked at by law enforcement. Now we discover that the computers have been smashed. Seems the DNC doesn't want an investigation into who really hacked into their system.


Oh what a tangled web, with smashed computers in the web.

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Jul 25, 2017 14:36:18   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Oh what a tangled web, with smashed computers in the web.


As the pieces of the picture come together in a more coherent manner, the hysteria of the liberal progressives rises.

Now Trump is finally pushing congress to a full blown Hillary investigation.

People have been criticizing him for not going after her but I have said that he is vindictive. His vindictiveness drives his tweets.

He doesn't forget and he sees that now is the time to take the Clintons down for good. He is torqued at Sessions for not pulling the trigger but until now has let it ride. Sessions recused because he feels it is the proper thing to do but now Trump wants Hillary action for several reasons.

Sessions says he will remain at post but I would not be surprised to see him step down. If he does Trump may appoint either Cruz or Giuliani and either will fry Hillary and Bill along with a host of others.

Sessions is a good man but may be too passive on some issues for right now. We are entering the time for talk to be tabled and action to begin.

With a vengence.

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Jul 25, 2017 14:46:01   #
Big Bass
 
Docadhoc wrote:
As the pieces of the picture come together in a more coherent manner, the hysteria of the liberal progressives rises.

Now Trump is finally pushing congress to a full blown Hillary investigation.

People have been criticizing him for not going after her but I have said that he is vindictive. His vindictiveness drives his tweets.

He doesn't forget and he sees that now is the time to take the Clintons down for good. He is torqued at Sessions for not pulling the trigger but until now has let it ride. Sessions recused because he feels it is the proper thing to do but now Trump wants Hillary action for several reasons.

Sessions says he will remain at post but I would not be surprised to see him step down. If he does Trump may appoint either Cruz or Giuliani and either will fry Hillary and Bill along with a host of others.

Sessions is a good man but may be too passive on some issues for right now. We are entering the time for talk to be tabled and action to begin.

With a vengence.
As the pieces of the picture come together in a mo... (show quote)


We are watching with bated breath. WHEN hellary goes down, it will make the earth move, as many will fall with her.

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