Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Simple, really. The House of Representatives has the power of the purse. The Office of the President holds no sway over spending or budgeting beyond making recommendations to Congress; who may or may not act on said recommendations. Here's the kicker: The President has no power to alter or adjust spending or the lack thereof. That's what Congress does. The Office of the President puts acts of Congress into actionable statutes. Without the statutes, the laws are toothless. Without the laws (acts of Congress), the statutes cannot be written. This is why the spending will continue until Congress has its credit cards revoked. The President is powerless to stop it.

The printing of money is neither under the purview of the President nor the Houses of Congress. That's the function of the Federal Reserve System, a privately-owned banking cartel solely in business to 'make money'- literally. Since the passing of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, this cartel has had the sole (legal) power to print money and give it to Congress to spend how they wish. Congress, in their turn, have made it illegal to refuse to accept these debt-based, fiat generated promissory notes by passing the legal tender laws.

The Office of the President has no power to reign in the spending or to remove the Federal Reserve from the position of 'lender of last resort', hence the President will not be joining the party anytime soon.

Feeling 'haunted' yet?

samtheyank

I have been supporting this concept for the last two years. It is the only solution I see that will work. Why? It bypasses Congress and all the spend happy politicians. It has got to be done or we sink into an oblivion of debt.

samtheyank

This has to be done by the People. Article Five and the 10th Amenment of The Constitution. Will work if we have the guts throw it in gear.

Sicilianthing

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Thanks Larry, yep fantastic explanation of both... and we are so on our way to Occupy Washington !

Sicilianthing

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Just remember Sam, the Article V will bring us the brink of Civil War and Constitutional Crisis..... Flat Out.

Sicilianthing

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The Assholes in Congress, The Federal Reserve Board and members, PTB in D.C. Will not just hand you guys the keys and go quietly into the night...

There are no Safeguards against this process, it has never been used and there are great consequences.

The PTB and Bankster Scumbags have multiple contingency plans for this tool and others the Founders gave us.

In the end it will be Federalists vs. Anti Federalists all over again and it will be settled in Blood on the great lawn.

PeterS

This is unthinkable? There has yet to be a republican tax cut that didn't add to the debt. If you are so unhappy with debt stop cutting taxes and start paying it down!!!

Sicilianthing

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How would you go about paying it down Peter ?
What is your solution from Pluto ?

PeterS

My solution is to start paying it down. We first started to see daylight in 2000 and the very first thing we did was vote ourselves a tax cut. If you are honestly serious about debt you have to start there then, freeze spending, and once a surplus is turned start applying it to debt. It's either that or we should stop bitching about a problem that we never intend to do anything about in the first place...

samtheyank

It does not change the Constitution. It only amends the Constitution by a vote of 3/4 of the states. How in the hell will this cause a Civil War or Constitutional Crisis? It will restore some responsibility and power back to the people. Remember the first three words of our Constitution, We The People!

Sicilianthing

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Pay down Who's debt ? Created by which assholes ?

See here:


Comptroller of the Currency Letter, July 2017
Posted: 18 Jul 2017 09:50 PM PDT
July 18, 2017

Keith Noreika, Comptroller
Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
OCC Headquarters
400 7th Street, SW
Washington, D.C. 20219

In regards to: Release of American assets

Dear Mr. Noreika:

It has come to our attention that attempts have been made to disinherit us via false claims of federal Municipal and Territorial citizenship and via bankruptcies related to Municipal and Territorial “franchise persons” operated in our names without our knowledge or consent.

These constructs include Cestui Que Vie ESTATE TRUSTS dba ACCOUNT designations in the form: JOHN MICHAEL DOE, public transmitting utilities operated under dba names in the form: JOHN M. DOE, Foreign Situs Trusts operated under dba names in the form: John Michael Doe, and numerous other variations.

This amounts to press-ganging an innocent civilian population and transporting them into a foreign jurisdiction (kidnapping/human trafficking) and meanwhile impersonating them for the purposes of plunder, personage, and barratry. These are all crimes of inland piracy that have been carried out against Americans with the help of your office acting by omission.

We have returned to the land jurisdiction states of our birth and we have surrendered all federal PERSONS to the Secretary of the Treasury and have expatriated from any presumed Territorial citizenship on the public record and have re-conveyed our Trade Names back to the land and the soil of our birthright.

Our ancestors have been here on American soil since before the Revolution and there is no evidence otherwise.
As such, we are bloodline inheritors of the actual Constitution and the actual National Trust, and we are not pleased to learn that our inheritance has been seized upon by your office under false pretenses since 1863 and that a constant state of “war” has been alleged and engendered since that time.

We are here to inform you that the so-called “American Civil War” was never declared by any act of Congress and no actual Peace Treaty exists ending the resulting illegal commercial mercenary action on our shores, despite three public declarations by President Andrew Johnson proclaiming peace and the surrender of Lee’s army at Appomattox, Virginia in April of 1865.

This communication is to inform you that the “war” insomuch as it ever existed, is over.

We are innocent private Third Parties who have been attacked and had our property illegally subsumed into multiple public bankruptcies by foreign commercial corporations that have unlawfully converted our assets, infringed upon our copyrights, and trespassed upon our soil under color of law.

At present, both the Municipal and Territorial governmental services corporations are in bankruptcy proceedings. The UNITED STATES is insolvent and under liquidation and the USA, Inc. is under Chapter 11 Reorganization.

We have visited The United States District Court for the District of Columbia and have informed the Senior Judges there that we are alive and well and claiming our estates en masse, which requires action by your office to probate and return our property to us, including our copyrights, trademarks, patents, and all other intellectual and material assets.

We have secured our claims internationally by Due Process. We have Title, Lien and Bond in the global municipal jurisdiction and also Title, Lien, and Bond in the territorial and international jurisdiction of the sea. Our Private Registered Indemnity Bond AMRI00001 RA393427640US is on file.

We have come now to reclaim our land jurisdiction assets from your office in the name of the unincorporated United States of America and each actual state and each actual living American.

Please prepare for the orderly disgorgement of all purported foreign grantor trusts and assets back to the lawful owners, heirs, and beneficiaries without prejudice.

Federal citizens and actual federal dependents are eligible for discharge of any federal franchise debts via bankruptcy.

All others are eligible for discharge of franchise debts and settlement of probate because they have been found to be alive, and because the debts accrued by the municipal and territorial persons are debts of secondary and merely presumed beneficiaries of the landed estates.

Please pull all American estates out of the bankruptcy Slush Pile absent credible proof of actual, factual federal employment or unearned federal dependency according to the stipulations already given to The United States District Court for the District of Columbia.

Merely receiving or having Social Security accounts is not deemed proof of federal employment, nor are federal civilian or military retirees subject to any presumption of continued municipal or territorial citizenship past the date of service separation.

We are looking forward to your prompt and faithful performance of your duties with regard to the actual American states and people.


Two Different Populations
Folks, there are and have always been two different populations here in America.

Actual current federal employees (retirees don't count as active federal employees) and federal dependents (political asylum seekers, etc.) who receive actual paychecks or unearned benefits from the federal corporations are owed discharge of all "franchise" debts via bankruptcy.

The rest of us are owed discharge of the same franchise debts via probate action.

The difference is that the probate action not only discharges debts accrued by secondary beneficiaries of our estates (the franchises operated in our names), it returns our land and our other property back to us unharmed and fully restored.

If you really ARE a federal employee or unearned dependent (for example, someone receiving SSI who never paid into and vested in Social Security), by all means, take the bankruptcy protection and run.

But if you are NOT a federal employee or unearned dependent, claim your estate back. The debts will all go away just the same, but you will also receive back the land and homes and businesses and other things that are rightfully yours.


It's that simple.

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Follow the Logic
The rats have identified you as a franchise of their bankrupt corporation.

JOHN MICHAEL DOE (substitute your name in all caps) is a "ward of the STATE OF MICHIGAN" which is a franchise of the bankrupt UNITED STATES.

What happens?

All of JOHN MICHAEL DOE's assets get held as surety backing the debts of the bankrupt parent corporations and as a result of the bankruptcy, "HIS" debts get discharged in bankruptcy.

His assets remain captive.

What should happen is that you are recognized as an American and not a Federale, and YOUR presumed debts should be discharged AND you should receive back your actual assets, free and clear.

That's what should happen and what must happen to clear up this mess.

Anna Von Reitz

Sicilianthing

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Sam I know what it's intended purpose was designed for... but that's not how it's going to unfold.

Please follow me here... the Foreign Interests Corps in D.C. And it's Federal Employees... et al. Will not yield to this process.... it ain't gonna happen without a fight...

Use your common sense, you think they're just going to let peasants roll up in Philly and begin Slapping D.C. For Treason and Sedition among other things ?

Take away their Pillaging, money machine, troph for the raping ?

C'mon

PeterS

Whose debt? And here I thought it belonged to all of us. Look Sici, I'm 63 and have done this dance with conservatives before. You guys love to bitch, you love to gripe, but when it comes to money you don't like to do anything about what you bitch and gripe about.

Here's what you do--take another tax cut--run debt up to 30 trillion and let someone else worry about it. Maybe your kids or grand kids will have the balls to do something about it. Ya think??? You're right, I doubt it too....

Sicilianthing

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Nope I'm OUT
Way out...

Now we just work on Boxing Trump into a corner where he'll be forced to choose between the Natural Citizen's of the Land and the Federalists of the D.C. Corporations et al.

Can you see where this is going to end up ?

I dont' think you guys get it yet.

samtheyank

Sicillianthing,

You miss the boat once again. If the people want it bad enough, it will happen. Before and during the American Revolution, there were people who wanted to stick with England and King George. Our leaders at that time had a bold vision, blessed by Almighty God, and it happened. Look at what the results were later. The greatest and strongest democracy the world has ever known. There will be people that will always oppose your ideas and methods no matter what. I still believe Article Five and the Tenth Amendment will be the final approach that will tame this government that nobody seems to know how to deal with. It has got to happen if we want to keep our nation, culture, way of life and to make sure the little guy gets his share of the pie. It will not be easy, but it is doable.