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Jul 20, 2017 18:03:11   #
PeterS
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Nope I'm OUT
Way out...

Now we just work on Boxing Trump into a corner where he'll be forced to choose between the Natural Citizen's of the Land and the Federalists of the D.C. Corporations et al.

Can you see where this is going to end up ?

I dont' think you guys get it yet.


As long as no one gets serious about debt it's just going to continue to grow. And I'm not trying to box Trump into anything, that's your job and if you can't do it then cease with the panic over debt...

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Jul 20, 2017 19:04:04   #
Sicilianthing
 
samtheyank wrote:
Sicillianthing,

You miss the boat once again. If the people want it bad enough, it will happen. Before and during the American Revolution, there were people who wanted to stick with England and King George. Our leaders at that time had a bold vision, blessed by Almighty God, and it happened. Look at what the results were later. The greatest and strongest democracy the world has ever known. There will be people that will always oppose your ideas and methods no matter what. I still believe Article Five and the Tenth Amendment will be the final approach that will tame this government that nobody seems to know how to deal with. It has got to happen if we want to keep our nation, culture, way of life and to make sure the little guy gets his share of the pie. It will not be easy, but it is doable.
Sicillianthing, br br You miss the boat once agai... (show quote)


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I'm not Knocking the supporters and the process Sam because I'd like to see them try it too.. but I have my serious Doubts... really serious doubts and if they do pass it all it won't be

Adhered to
Enforced
Applied
Honored

Because the Federalists and the Foreign Interests Corp from England/Crown/s Vatican, Et Al.... will create a grand diversion or false flag of some type and Split us down the middle.

It's exactly what I posted this morning from Ana Von Reitz about 2 classes of people and 2 parallel systems occupying one Land...

It Ain't gonna work much longer.

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-108441-1.html

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Jul 20, 2017 19:06:26   #
samtheyank
 
PeterS wrote:
As long as no one gets serious about debt it's just going to continue to grow. And I'm not trying to box Trump into anything, that's your job and if you can't do it then cease with the panic over debt...


Article Five of The United States Constitution and the Tenth Amendment of our beloved document. The Founding Fathers were a bunch of men with vision that reached hundred of years into the future of our country. It has been said many times by many great historians that the wealth of talent that was gathered under that one roof from 1787 to 1789 was the greatest the world has ever known in human history. If I may add to this historical fact that fifty-two of the fifty-five Founding Fathers who signed their names to the greatest historical document ever conceived by man were Evangelical, Orthodox Christians. They knew philosophy, history, ancient languages like Latin and law. The U. S. Constitution is the oldest, continuing document that governs a nation in the world today. I look up into Heaven and say, "Thank you God for your blessings and mercy!" We better wakeup or we will loose it all.

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Jul 20, 2017 19:18:57   #
Sicilianthing
 
samtheyank wrote:
Article Five of The United States Constitution and the Tenth Amendment of our beloved document. The Founding Fathers were a bunch of men with vision that reached hundred of years into the future of our country. It has been said many times by many great historians that the wealth of talent that was gathered under that one roof from 1787 to 1789 was the greatest the world has ever known in human history. If I may add to this historical fact that fifty-two of the fifty-five Founding Fathers who signed their names to the greatest historical document ever conceived by man were Evangelical, Orthodox Christians. They knew philosophy, history, ancient languages like Latin and law. The U. S. Constitution is the oldest, continuing document that governs a nation in the world today. I look up into Heaven and say, "Thank you God for your blessings and mercy!" We better wakeup or we will loose it all.
Article Five of The United States Constitution and... (show quote)


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I can certainly agree with that and almost every single one of them paid for it with their violent death and fighting...

Now we're about to do it again to settle the unfinished business.

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Jul 20, 2017 19:41:10   #
samtheyank
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>>>>

I can certainly agree with that and almost every single one of them paid for it with their violent death and fighting...

Now we're about to do it again to settle the unfinished business.


I don't think death and violence is the answer. We need to get off our asses and start doing what is necessary to make this nation work for all the American People. There are too many damn leeches that keep sucking the country dry at the expense of the many just for the few. I still believe that there that are millions of Americans that want the samething. I have five young girls in my family that will be grown in the next ten years. I want them to have the same opportunities that I had when I was a young person. I feel that no damn White Person, Black Person, Hispanic, etc. should be given something because of their race, color, sex or creed. If you want it, you work for it. The chances are that if you put your heart, determination and commitment in it you will succeed. People! This is America not the rest of the world. This is where the bulk of our talent comes from as America. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and other greats like Edison, Bell, Marconi, Du Pont, etc. had their origins in the Middleclass or humble beginnings. They had an idea and talent to go with it. They made it work, made everybody else's life easier and it propelled them to the top in terms of success and wealth. Groups like Muslims, Liberals, Liebtards and Social Engineers don't contribute anything to the good of the country. They destroy and waste everything they put their hands on as a people. Enough said! Think about it People. It belongs to us and we are entitle to it because we built and made it what it is today.

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Jul 20, 2017 20:25:24   #
Sicilianthing
 
samtheyank wrote:
I don't think death and violence is the answer. We need to get off our asses and start doing what is necessary to make this nation work for all the American People. There are too many damn leeches that keep sucking the country dry at the expense of the many just for the few. I still believe that there that are millions of Americans that want the samething. I have five young girls in my family that will be grown in the next ten years. I want them to have the same opportunities that I had when I was a young person. I feel that no damn White Person, Black Person, Hispanic, etc. should be given something because of their race, color, sex or creed. If you want it, you work for it. The chances are that if you put your heart, determination and commitment in it you will succeed. People! This is America not the rest of the world. This is where the bulk of our talent comes from as America. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and other greats like Edison, Bell, Marconi, Du Pont, etc. had their origins in the Middleclass or humble beginnings. They had an idea and talent to go with it. They made it work, made everybody else's life easier and it propelled them to the top in terms of success and wealth. Groups like Muslims, Liberals, Liebtards and Social Engineers don't contribute anything to the good of the country. They destroy and waste everything they put their hands on as a people. Enough said! Think about it People. It belongs to us and we are entitle to it because we built and made it what it is today.
I don't think death and violence is the answer. We... (show quote)


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Noted and valid points Sam... but how do you propose to get rid of the Muslim Scumbags who are here already when they were outlawed from coming 2wice on the books back in 1952 and from the Founders 2wice also....

What would you do to close off Congress into a forced Article 5 and make them begin mass deportation laws against this enemy occupier ?

How would you go about this ?

I can tell you right now that Trump will never do what is required to reverse the damages of the Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, Mosque funding and Muslim infiltration in our Republic.

he's already been compromised by a soft 9th Circuit, SCOTUS Clowns in Gowns literally, both parties and a Pussy Congress....

Who's got the Balls to get this shit started Sam ?

My gear is at the door and I am ready to go... the only thing stopping me is the Scumbag FED and Local Brainwashed authorities...

What say you Sam ?

What is your plan to begin turning things around and getting rid of all these RAT Traitors and Muslim Trash?
Illegal Border hoppers
Asian illegals
Etc etc...

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Jul 20, 2017 21:44:56   #
samtheyank
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>>>>

Noted and valid points Sam... but how do you propose to get rid of the Muslim Scumbags who are here already when they were outlawed from coming 2wice on the books back in 1952 and from the Founders 2wice also....

What would you do to close off Congress into a forced Article 5 and make them begin mass deportation laws against this enemy occupier ?

How would you go about this ?

I can tell you right now that Trump will never do what is required to reverse the damages of the Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, Mosque funding and Muslim infiltration in our Republic.

he's already been compromised by a soft 9th Circuit, SCOTUS Clowns in Gowns literally, both parties and a Pussy Congress....

Who's got the Balls to get this shit started Sam ?

My gear is at the door and I am ready to go... the only thing stopping me is the Scumbag FED and Local Brainwashed authorities...

What say you Sam ?

What is your plan to begin turning things around and getting rid of all these RAT Traitors and Muslim Trash?
Illegal Border hoppers
Asian illegals
Etc etc...
>>>>>>> br br Noted and vali... (show quote)


Sicilianything,

This last week I was watching the PBS station. If I remember correctly, Lesley Stahl was interviewing this family that immigrated here illegally. They were from Mexico. Both the Father and Mom had been here long enough to have two grown dauthers about college age. They were angry, upset, scared that the Federal Government might deport them for coming here illegally. The way the coverage was slanted that somehow the Mom and Dad were victims for being here illegally and the United States had no right to enforce its laws. The idea of personal responsibility, choices and consequences for your behavior had no meaning in this situation. The Father and Mother were criminals and they violated the law by being here illegally. They knew what they did was wrong and they skirted the law for about twenty years. The benefits they received from the American People like their daughters getting a free education, healthcare, etc. was stolden and taken away from some American family who was entitled to it in a legal manner. The Mom and Dad are damn thieves. They stold from the American People and they knew conscienceously what they were doing was wrong and an illegal act. My whole purpose for using this as an example is that we live in a time when such things like this happen that somehow enforcing the law is wrong and the people who broke the law are nothing but innocent victims. Nothing could be further from the truth! This goes on all the time and this mentality continues on a frequent basis. It has got to stop. People have to be held accountable for their choices. If a nation has no laws and there is no respect for the rule of law, our culture becomes corrupt, chaotic and slowly sinks in the quicksand of immorality. If our last election taught us anything, we should have learned and realized that immorality and corruption run deeply in every aspect of our government and culture. The question remains are we going to continue down this road or are we, as the American People, will start standing up for what is right for our nation. If we continue down this same highway, we will wakeup one day and ask what in the hell happened to everything we held dear and scared as the American People. We are currently at the crossroads where we will have to make that choice. You can't kick the can down the road anymore like you could in the past. The Devil has arrived and he wants his due.

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Jul 20, 2017 21:57:53   #
Sicilianthing
 
samtheyank wrote:
Sicilianything,

This last week I was watching the PBS station. If I remember correctly, Lesley Stahl was interviewing this family that immigrated here illegally. They were from Mexico. Both the Father and Mom had been here long enough to have two grown dauthers about college age. They were angry, upset, scared that the Federal Government might deport them for coming here illegally. The way the coverage was slanted that somehow the Mom and Dad were victims for being here illegally and the United States had no right to enforce its laws. The idea of personal responsibility, choices and consequences for your behavior had no meaning in this situation. The Father and Mother were criminals and they violated the law by being here illegally. They knew what they did was wrong and they skirted the law for about twenty years. The benefits they received from the American People like their daughters getting a free education, healthcare, etc. was stolden and taken away from some American family who was entitled to it in a legal manner. The Mom and Dad are damn thieves. They stold from the American People and they knew conscienceously what they were doing was wrong and an illegal act. My whole purpose for using this as an example is that we live in a time when such things like this happen that somehow enforcing the law is wrong and the people who broke the law are nothing but innocent victims. Nothing could be further from the truth! This goes on all the time and this mentality continues on a frequent basis. It has got to stop. People have to be held accountable for their choices. If a nation has no laws and there is no respect for the rule of law, our culture becomes corrupt, chaotic and slowly sinks in the quicksand of immorality. If our last election taught us anything, we should have learned and realized that immorality and corruption run deeply in every aspect of our government and culture. The question remains are we going to continue down this road or are we, as the American People, will start standing up for what is right for our nation. If we continue down this same highway, we will wakeup one day and ask what in the hell happened to everything we held dear and scared as the American People. We are currently at the crossroads where we will have to make that choice. You can't kick the can down the road anymore like you could in the past. The Devil has arrived and he wants his due.
Sicilianything, br br This last week I was watchi... (show quote)



>>>>>>>>>>>

Damn Right, Noted and Agreed... Great Post !

I totally agree...

Cut em' all OFF !

Every last one of those Scumbag Mexican or Hispanic, Spanish, Muslim, Regugee Scumbag Free Loaders....

Cut Em' all oFF

Stop all checks Flat OUT !

Deport

Deport

Deport


How's that sound ?

Then when the Fighting starts and it will Burn Every Mosque' all 3,000 of em'... and outlaw any of them ever being built again...

Deport all of em'... I don't care what their Excuse or Cry Baby Stories are.

It's Over

It's Cooked

Flat out

GAME OVER !

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Jul 20, 2017 22:16:47   #
samtheyank
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>

Damn Right, Noted and Agreed... Great Post !

I totally agree...

Cut em' all OFF !

Every last one of those Scumbag Mexican or Hispanic, Spanish, Muslim, Regugee Scumbag Free Loaders....

Cut Em' all oFF

Stop all checks Flat OUT !

Deport

Deport

Deport


How's that sound ?

Then when the Fighting starts and it will Burn Every Mosque' all 3,000 of em'... and outlaw any of them ever being built again...

Deport all of em'... I don't care what their Excuse or Cry Baby Stories are.

It's Over

It's Cooked

Flat out

GAME OVER !
>>>>>>>>>>> br b... (show quote)


Sicilianthing,

It sounds cruel, but it is the law and should be the law. When a man/woman kills a police officer or takes the life of another human being in a premeditated manner, they should, as required by law, be required to forfeit their own life. When a person of this nature is about to be put to death, every bleeding heart Liberal or anti-capital group comes out of the woodwork. Their crime and what they did to their victims goes on the back burner. This procedure by the state is mean and nasty, but it is necessary for justice. I personally don't like it, but, again, I see it as being a necessary act.

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Jul 20, 2017 22:33:59   #
Sicilianthing
 
samtheyank wrote:
Sicilianthing,

It sounds cruel, but it the law and should be the law. When a man/woman kills a police officer or takes the life of another human being in a premeditated manner, they should, as required by law, be required to forfeit their own life. When a person of this nature is about to be put to death, every bleeding heart Liberal or anti-capital group comes out of the woodwork. Their crime and what they did to their victims goes on the back burner. This procedure by the state is mean and nasty, but it is necessary for justice. I personally don't like it, but, again, I see it as being a necessary act.
Sicilianthing, br br It sounds cruel, but it the ... (show quote)



>>>>>>>>>>>

Probably... things are surely escalating and changing that's for sure...

Vigilante Justice !

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Jul 20, 2017 23:41:04   #
PeterS
 
samtheyank wrote:
Article Five of The United States Constitution and the Tenth Amendment of our beloved document. The Founding Fathers were a bunch of men with vision that reached hundred of years into the future of our country. It has been said many times by many great historians that the wealth of talent that was gathered under that one roof from 1787 to 1789 was the greatest the world has ever known in human history. If I may add to this historical fact that fifty-two of the fifty-five Founding Fathers who signed their names to the greatest historical document ever conceived by man were Evangelical, Orthodox Christians. They knew philosophy, history, ancient languages like Latin and law. The U. S. Constitution is the oldest, continuing document that governs a nation in the world today. I look up into Heaven and say, "Thank you God for your blessings and mercy!" We better wakeup or we will loose it all.
Article Five of The United States Constitution and... (show quote)

And what the fuk are you talking about? You forgot to mention that many were deists, the product of the enlightenment, and they were probably the greatest assemblage of liberals this country has ever experienced. The constitution you mention was probably the greatest liberal document ever produced...

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Jul 20, 2017 23:43:29   #
PeterS
 
samtheyank wrote:
Sicilianthing,

It sounds cruel, but it is the law and should be the law. When a man/woman kills a police officer or takes the life of another human being in a premeditated manner, they should, as required by law, be required to forfeit their own life. When a person of this nature is about to be put to death, every bleeding heart Liberal or anti-capital group comes out of the woodwork. Their crime and what they did to their victims goes on the back burner. This procedure by the state is mean and nasty, but it is necessary for justice. I personally don't like it, but, again, I see it as being a necessary act.
Sicilianthing, br br It sounds cruel, but it is t... (show quote)

And why is the punishment suppose to be the forfeiture of ones life?

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Jul 20, 2017 23:55:04   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
And what the fuk are you talking about? You forgot to mention that many were deists, the product of the enlightenment, and they were probably the greatest assemblage of liberals this country has ever experienced. The constitution you mention was probably the greatest liberal document ever produced...


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WTF ?

Since when is the Constitution a Liberal based Document ?

Huh ?

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Jul 20, 2017 23:55:52   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
And why is the punishment suppose to be the forfeiture of ones life?


>>>>>

IDK it was just a thought... you got any ideas for that ?

If you look around you things are getting worse not better...

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Jul 21, 2017 01:57:46   #
samtheyank
 
PeterS wrote:
And what the fuk are you talking about? You forgot to mention that many were deists, the product of the enlightenment, and they were probably the greatest assemblage of liberals this country has ever experienced. The constitution you mention was probably the greatest liberal document ever produced...


I totally disagree with you. The terms Liberal and Conservative did not apply at that time in American history. The Constitution was not the most liberal document ever produced in human history. Men like Washington, Jefferson and Madison, if you want to use the term, were very conservative in terms of how they handled money, how they spent it, etc. You must remember in the 18th Century if you couldn't pay your bills you were sent to prision know as debtor's prision. The only Founding Fathers that were considered desists, as you say, were Jefferson and Franklin. Based on recent historical documents, these two men were a long ways from being desists. Both believed that a moral people that were educated needed values and morals that only Christianity could provide over time. If you think I am bullshitting you, you have to read the letters and documents that these men wrote to each other in the early years of our nation. I don't know, to put in your language, where in the fuck you get the idea they were liberals. I think if the truth was known you are obsessed with the concept of liberalism and how it applies in today's culture. I recommend that you read what other historians have written about these great men. There was nothing like them and I truly feel there will never be another group with their talent and brain power. Clifford Dowdey, a great and well known Virginia historian, wrote that the talent that came out of Virginia alone exceeded the Golden Age of Greece. If more Americans knew their history, they would have something to be proud of as Americans and Virginians secondly.

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