badbobby Loc: texas

that asteroid took care of the dinosaurs
sure couldn't be much of a problem busting up the bees and plant animal

Kazudy

Yes it can be won. Right now Mr.Bomb 1 atheist ZERO! Ball is in your court.

goofball Loc: timbucktoo

Were Adam and Eve Jewish?

Big Bass

I'll reply for the atheists: "It's all Trump's fault! Impeach him!!"

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

I'm still waiting on the atheists to explain to me just how all the matter, that exploded in the "Big Bang" (not the TV show), got there. And, how it became so compressed that it exploded and is still traveling throughout the vast expanse we call "the Universe." Once they can do that, I'll ask them to explain just how all of these "mutations" came about within the single-celled "entities" we allegedly "evolved" from to become multiple species of plants and animals.

Additionally, I'm 0still waiting on them to explain such things as love, list, hate, greed, envy, funny, and sadness. If all they want is to be able to quantify everything into a research paper, then how can they explain "abstract thought?" How much behavior is "instinct" and how much is "learned?"

Personally, I believe in "Intelligent Design." I believe God used evolution to get us where we are, today. (Although, our "intelligence" is sorely lacking on so many fronts.) I believe, too, He is letting us in on His secrets, little by little, toward how He works. There's still so much we don't know or understand about Him, and, most likely never will.

I can understand how and why so many people turn away from religion and/or a faith/belief in God. It's hard to explain why bad things happen to good people. It's hard to explain why God seems to NOT hear our prayers. Why there's so much evil in the world and why He seems to allow it to continue. I get that.

But, i also know that the evil that occurs isn't God's doing. It's mankind's doing. God gave us "free will" and a set of instructions on how to get along. It's called the "New Testament." It's up to us to use it for good. If we don't, we'll, we see how that's working out now, don't we?

God can and does move in our lives. I know, first-hand, He has moved in mine on more than one occasion. I can't quantify it. But, my faith, my belief and trust in something I can't see, hear, taste, touch, or smell; something I can't convert into a mathematical formula, yet know it's real, allows me that.

"Faith" is another of those concepts that I'd like to have an atheist explain to me in terms that don't attack my character or intelligence. Thus far, every atheist I'm asked these questions of, in the end, resort to character assignation instead of offering sustainable answers.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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I'm good with that!

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Were Adam and his sons circumcised? If not, then, no; they weren't Jewish.

thinksense

We live on a planet where everything kills something else to live. That is also what we do because we are animals.

Our instincts are animal instincts at the base.

We enslave most other animals, (horses, cattle, chickens, humans, etc.) for our benefit and to have something to sustain us in our hunger. That too is natural.

We fight each other for our benefit just like any other animal, (for territory, food, mates, etc.).

A God , (whatever you imagine,) created us. We are a strange animal upon this planet...Hair only on top of our heads, calling attention to our genitals, and under our arms, without any real hair covering the rest of our bodies. As far as I know we are the only ones designed like this.

We walk on our hind legs, our forward limbs are used almost exclusively for manipulation.

We are inventive and are the only animal that builds edifices, controls their environment for our comfort. We build motive machines to carry us to far distant places.

We are, in other words unique, yet constructed for this world.

Our fetuses, at one point during gestation appear exactly like pig fetuses, (we use these for demonstration purposes in college courses) (and pigs are among the few other animals with hides like ours. Our DNA is almost exactly the same as certain primates.

We are Constructs, obviously utilizing DNA from a mishmash of other earth animals, plus something else.

The entities that constructed us, probably to be their slaves on this planet, then left us to fend for ourselves when their immediate use for us ended.

If you wish to worship something, at least worship something that makes sense.

goofball Loc: timbucktoo

Aztec war clubs

E

I've read all of these and so far, your's makes the most sense.

God is a fact. He/she has no name, just is. The Universe was created (possibly in a big bang) based on the laws of Physics and Chemistry etc, as created by God. There has never been and never will be an explanation on how matter came from no where. It is beyond our understanding and a word for that is God. The Universe then expanded according to these very laws that our brightest physicists are still just learning about them. Part of that is the coming together of these particles of the big bang through gravity and who knows what (part of those laws that God created). These evolved into stars and planets. On some of these planets there were sufficient chemicals of the right nature for life to evolve (No, we aren't the only ones). As these various forms of life evolved, they met and interacted to reproduce and evolve as was necessary to survive. If you think this isn't true, you need to study or talk to the people in the Center for Disease Controls where they can show the evolution of various life forms, at the bacterial level, that become dangerous diseases or become benign. Those that evolved in the right direction, survived. Those that didn't, died off. That is how the bee came to be and the plants that they help pollinate also survived and flourished. But before them, there were other interactions that took place as evolution drifted towards the present status. And along the way, some higher life
forms came to be. The dinosaurs and all of those fossils that creationism doesn't explain and eventually man. Did God at some time then take some of these humans and zap them with a soul. Only God knows. But we are the most intelligent, efficient creatures we've known that evolution was caused to become. Monkeys think, dogs show compassion, my parakeets show an instinct for play and reproduction without the aid of parents. We are all a part of God's plan. and that is to create the Universe, which might just be one of trillions God created, and let the laws of nature take hold and let life become what it becomes. And along the way, man created Religion. Something to fall back on to help people form unions and learn to survive together and protect them selves from others that would do them harm. They formed rituals as someone decided that was a way to express this union and religion. Believe in God, that I have formed in your mind or perish. The Koran, the Bible, or whatever. Full of nice cute little do gooder phrases to help unite the religion on a definite course of protecting each other and offer a way to teach (brainwash) children into growing strong within this union and religion. Of course these books are also full of little phrases like kill the infidel to help the religion grow in an attitude that we are the only true ones. We must pray to God. Why? I've learned that most prayer is just written by someone else to a certain form of memorization. But why do people pray? They want to thank God for something that probably would have happened with or without prayer. They want to ask God for something that will probably happen by effort or chance anyway. Or they want to praise God. Any God that was powerful enough to create all of this and the laws of nature to hold it all together, is also above ever wanting any of the creatures that evolve to ever want any such creature to praise him/her. Only Kings, and Presidents, and Popes and Potentates are weak enough to want that praise, because without it, commanded or freely given, they have no power. All of this works for the believers of religion and God or for atheists, but is undeniable. It is what is.

cheers

thinksense

Wow!!!! An intelligent human. And willing to face the wrath of the religion blinded .

Thank you for your post “E”, I was about to give up looking for another.

We now have 4 on this forum .

BTW a couple of things I would like to add to my above post...

1...Did you know that during your gestation there is a phase when you have gills? Like the phase when you look like a pig fetus, this seems to show that evolutionionary theory is on the right track. As a fetus you evolve from one large cell (the ovum, which can barely be seen by the human eye) and a cell that is 90 thousand times smaller (the sperm cell), through the stages of evolution to become a living human, in just 9 months. Amazing!

2...The human skeleton is an obvious copy of mammal skeletons. One reason so many people have back aches is because of the compromises our builders had to make to allow bipedal errect stance. The spine has to shape like a snake because our spines are an adaptation from four footed stance. The “facettes”, the back parts of the vertebra that would normally allow the vertebrae to fit one upon the other and hook a horizontally carried spine together so as to require little muscular effort, do not work well in a 2 footed stance, and so require constant spinal muscle effort to stand or sit. These muscles readily tire and allow the vertebrae to slip.

Mr Bombastic

This post shows just how willfully ignorant you are. Those 'gills' are actually the rib cage of the fetus. Look it up.

PRM2014

I agree with your post, 100%. Thank You.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Are you aware, too, that early-on in our development, we're all female in gender. Later-on, we change gender, based on our genetic code.

Mr Bombastic

Well, it makes sense. Try turning a male fetus into a female. Can't be done.