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Jul 9, 2017 13:48:33   #
Mr Bombastic
 
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this.

Here's the deal. Plants require pollination in order to reproduce. This cannot be accomplished without a pollinator. Enter the honey bee.
Bees cannot survive without plants to collect pollen from.
These plants, in turn, cannot reproduce without the bees to pollinate them. This rules out any possibility that either one evolved separately.
This leaves only one possibility for their existence.
They were created.
Unless someone can come up with an alternative explanation.
Well, can you?

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Jul 9, 2017 14:26:19   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this.

Here's the deal. Plants require pollination in order to reproduce. This cannot be accomplished without a pollinator. Enter the honey bee.
Bees cannot survive without plants to collect pollen from.
These plants, in turn, cannot reproduce without the bees to pollinate them. This rules out any possibility that either one evolved separately.
This leaves only one possibility for their existence.
They were created.
Unless someone can come up with an alternative explanation.
Well, can you?
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this. br b... (show quote)





You fight a battle that cannot be won by either side.

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Jul 9, 2017 14:47:05   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this.

Here's the deal. Plants require pollination in order to reproduce. This cannot be accomplished without a pollinator. Enter the honey bee.
Bees cannot survive without plants to collect pollen from.
These plants, in turn, cannot reproduce without the bees to pollinate them. This rules out any possibility that either one evolved separately.
This leaves only one possibility for their existence.
They were created.
Unless someone can come up with an alternative explanation.
Well, can you?
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this. br b... (show quote)


It's the old what came first debate, the Chicken or the Egg? We will never know, until we die.

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Jul 9, 2017 14:52:04   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
You fight a battle that cannot be won by either side.


I just comes down to reason, Willy. There are so many examples such as this in nature that it always boggles my mind how one can argue that there isn't a Creator. It even states in the Bible that man can see every day examples of God in nature. You are correct though about a no-win situation. The atheist is looking for definitive proof, not logic. Faith is not in their vocabulary yet it plays a very important part in everyone's life. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

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Jul 9, 2017 15:21:03   #
Carol Kelly
 
vettelover wrote:
It's the old what came first debate, the Chicken or the Egg? We will never know, until we die.


I know. God created everything on the earth and He saw that it was good.

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Jul 9, 2017 15:22:46   #
Carol Kelly
 
bylm1 wrote:
I just comes down to reason, Willy. There are so many examples such as this in nature that it always boggles my mind how one can argue that there isn't a Creator. It even states in the Bible that man can see every day examples of God in nature. You are correct though about a no-win situation. The atheist is looking for definitive proof, not logic. Faith is not in their vocabulary yet it plays a very important part in everyone's life. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?


Even the atheist has eyes (given to him by God) to see the wonders of nature. How can we see and yet not see?

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Jul 9, 2017 15:40:09   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Even the atheist has eyes (given to him by God) to see the wonders of nature. How can we see and yet not see?


They see just fine. They simply don't like what they see. There is only one reason that people reject God. They love their sin more than God. Do not be fooled. They know that God is real. The Bible tells us that no one will have an excuse on Judgement Day.

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Jul 9, 2017 15:40:25   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this.

Here's the deal. Plants require pollination in order to reproduce. This cannot be accomplished without a pollinator. Enter the honey bee.
Bees cannot survive without plants to collect pollen from.
These plants, in turn, cannot reproduce without the bees to pollinate them. This rules out any possibility that either one evolved separately.
This leaves only one possibility for their existence.
They were created.
Unless someone can come up with an alternative explanation.
Well, can you?
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this. br b... (show quote)


The bee and plants were once the same animal, than an asteroid came down and busted them apart.

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Jul 9, 2017 15:51:24   #
Mr Bombastic
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The bee and plants were once the same animal, than an asteroid came down and busted them apart.


LOL! ^_^

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Jul 9, 2017 16:05:01   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
bylm1 wrote:
I just comes down to reason, Willy. There are so many examples such as this in nature that it always boggles my mind how one can argue that there isn't a Creator. It even states in the Bible that man can see every day examples of God in nature. You are correct though about a no-win situation. The atheist is looking for definitive proof, not logic. Faith is not in their vocabulary yet it plays a very important part in everyone's life. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?




Hey, better to believe and be wrong...than to not believe and be wrong

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Jul 9, 2017 16:10:06   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Hey, better to believe and be wrong...than to not believe and be wrong


That's SO right!!!

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Jul 9, 2017 18:46:06   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I know. God created everything on the earth and He saw that it was good.


You will enjoy that presentation.

https://youtu.be/ChWiZ3iXWwM

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Jul 10, 2017 08:30:52   #
goofball Loc: timbucktoo
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this.

Here's the deal. Plants require pollination in order to reproduce. This cannot be accomplished without a pollinator. Enter the honey bee.
Bees cannot survive without plants to collect pollen from.
These plants, in turn, cannot reproduce without the bees to pollinate them. This rules out any possibility that either one evolved separately.
This leaves only one possibility for their existence.
They were created.
Unless someone can come up with an alternative explanation.
Well, can you?
OK, I'd like to here atheists explain this. br b... (show quote)


DITTOS DUDE,!

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Jul 10, 2017 09:35:18   #
pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I know. God created everything on the earth and He saw that it was good.
Which God? is it the God of Abraham, or the God of 'Buda" or the various 'created' ones out there. The worst to date is the God of Islam, followed by various forms of "organized" religion. Since becoming an adult some sixty years ago I have learned and believe that "organized religion" is and will continue to be "the curse of the world" As a result of my learnings I have become a 'Diest' in that I recognize a superior 'life force', more likely the "Judo-Christian" God without the organized blather. My principle thought as with so many others is when will the real "God" show up and straighten this worldly mess out? In the first book "Genesis" it was his intent to make this once wonderful earth 'paradise' So what happened? And please don't give me this crap about Adam & Eve and their pet snake.

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Jul 10, 2017 10:20:16   #
GRB777
 
Adam and Eve were persuaded to rebel, told that rebellion wasn't wrong, just a different perspective. They were also told that GOD was a liar; they weren't going to be punished for their behavior. When you break GOD'S laws you are destroying yourself and everything you touch. This may be "crap" to you, but I dare say you have been rebelling yourself for so long you think the rebellion is good and normal. GOD has given men 6000 years to do his "own thing" whatever that may be. The earth is sicker, human beings are sicker morally and physically than at any time in human history. If you think keeping GOD's law is "crap" that's your choice. GOD has a plan for rebels who won't repent- it involves removing you from his sight and off his earth- permanently. In other words removing all of the "crap" from out of his life. He's had enough, and the 6000 years are almost expired. There is only one GOD that has had a relationship with the creation; if you can't see that you had better take a break from all your arrogance and find humility. The clock is ticking and he is not waiting on humanity, he is merely adhering to what he himself set in motion-his timeline.

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