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Jun 17, 2017 05:38:11   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
Why do we liberal not get along with trump. Why do we not like his cabinet. Why do we think they are slugs.

I got 3 little bits on different topics to give you a clue.

feel free to jump in with your excuses.


Well, Attorney General Sessions lied under oath to the Senate about his meetings with the Russian ambassador/spy Sergey Kislyak during the campaign. (He also lied about it on his security clearance forms. And now it looks like he’s lied about it a third time!) As a result, he had to recuse himself from anything involving the Russia investigation. Of course, that didn’t stop him from doing Trump’s bidding and involving himself in the firing of Comey, who was overseeing the FBI’s Russia investigation — and of course, Trump subsequently told Lester Holt on national television (and told the Russians, including Sergey Kislyak, in the Oval Office) that he fired Comey to take the heat off himself from the Russia investigation. So, I guess if Jeff Sessions could make nonsense of his recusal once — what the heck, he might do it again, any day now, and find a pretext to charge Comey with perjury! Comey implied during his testimony there are more reasons to be wary of Sessions than those we know of, reasons that are currently classified, so it could all get very involved


As far as I can tell, Comey told no lies at all. I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that Comey lied (though I suspect it’s from the pro-Trump-no-matter-what right-wing media), but in a situation where you have different stories from two different people, any experienced investigator will tell you that it becomes a matter of credibility. Like him or not, Comey has built his entire career on credibility and integrity…whereas Trump has (as of June 5th, 2017) made 623 false and misleading claims.

I know whose word I would take.


Here’s Trump “telling it like it is” at a press conference a month ago:

Reporter: What do you think European countries have to fear from Russia if this tension continues to escalate?

Trump: Well, I want to just start by saying hopefully they're going to have to fear nothing, ultimately. Right now there is a fear and there are problems, certainly problems, but ultimately I hope there won't be a fear and won't be problems and the world can get along. That would be the ideal situation. It's crazy what's going on, whether it's the Middle East or you look at no matter where, the Ukraine, you look at -- whatever you look at, it's got problems. So many problems. And ultimately, I believe that we are going to get rid of most of those problems and there won't be fear of anybody. That's the way it should be.[1]

He doesn’t have an answer to the question, so he strings together a bunch of words that technically form sentences, but are utterly devoid of meaning. He doesn’t even come close to answering the reporter’s question at a level we’ve come to expect from the President.

But for some reason, 40% of the country nods their heads along with him and then posts questions like this. His answer makes sense in the way complete nonsense makes sense to you when you and your friend are super high in your parents’ basement. If you gave an answer like that at a meeting at work, you’d be fired on the spot for gross incompetence and embarrassing your company.

Pick nearly any policy area and you can find a Trump answer as incoherent as this one.

So I guess people don’t understand him because he is literally incomprehensible.
Why do we liberal not get along with trump. Why do... (show quote)


Your first statement is a lie in itself. Sessions was asked if he discussed certain matters in a meeting with some Russians, NOT whether or not he met with them. It's easy to accuse someone of lying when you make up the criteria as you go, and change it to suit your agenda.

Regarding the firing of Comey, more double standards. You claim Sessions "had to recuse himself" for conflicts of interest, but you would have us believe that Comey, who has been enriched by several million dollars through his association with the Clintons, has no conflict of interest in investigating Hillary.

Comey seemingly made up a whole new law to apply to Hillary's malfeasance. 18 USC 793, (which Hillary, by Comey's own admission violated repeatedly,) carries stiff penalties, and intent has nothing to do with prosecution, yet Comey, out of thin air, declined prosecution because Hillary meant no harm. There are a number of individuals currently in prison who also meant no harm. Unfortunately for them, their names are not Clinton, and they did not enrich the head of the FBI by several million dollars prior to his appointment to head that agency.

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Jun 17, 2017 05:47:14   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
emarine wrote:
Anything is fair game until you get caught... Russia got caught & Trumps good with it... I find this problematic for a CINC...


Russia has not "been caught." Someone using Russian phishing techniques did some hacking. There has been no proof of one vote being changed due to this. Exactly how you can hack something that isn't hooked up to the internet is something that puzzles me.
The DNC was aware of the hacking and ignored it until they lost. Our own government uses these techniques. We have interfered in other countries' elections. We spy on the Russians, they spy on us. We also spy on our NATO allies and they return the favor. Ditto the Chinese, NK's, and pretty much everyone else in the world.
Hillary lost. Liberals somehow think that the Russians are responsible. There is as much proof of that as there is of "millions of illegal voters giving Hillary the popular vote."

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Jun 17, 2017 08:16:23   #
kenvrla Loc: East Tx Piney Woods
 
permafrost wrote:
Why do we liberal not get along with trump. Why do we not like his cabinet. Why do we think they are slugs.

I got 3 little bits on different topics to give you a clue.

feel free to jump in with your excuses.


Well, Attorney General Sessions lied under oath to the Senate about his meetings with the Russian ambassador/spy Sergey Kislyak during the campaign. (He also lied about it on his security clearance forms. And now it looks like he’s lied about it a third time!) As a result, he had to recuse himself from anything involving the Russia investigation. Of course, that didn’t stop him from doing Trump’s bidding and involving himself in the firing of Comey, who was overseeing the FBI’s Russia investigation — and of course, Trump subsequently told Lester Holt on national television (and told the Russians, including Sergey Kislyak, in the Oval Office) that he fired Comey to take the heat off himself from the Russia investigation. So, I guess if Jeff Sessions could make nonsense of his recusal once — what the heck, he might do it again, any day now, and find a pretext to charge Comey with perjury! Comey implied during his testimony there are more reasons to be wary of Sessions than those we know of, reasons that are currently classified, so it could all get very involved


As far as I can tell, Comey told no lies at all. I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that Comey lied (though I suspect it’s from the pro-Trump-no-matter-what right-wing media), but in a situation where you have different stories from two different people, any experienced investigator will tell you that it becomes a matter of credibility. Like him or not, Comey has built his entire career on credibility and integrity…whereas Trump has (as of June 5th, 2017) made 623 false and misleading claims.

I know whose word I would take.


Here’s Trump “telling it like it is” at a press conference a month ago:

Reporter: What do you think European countries have to fear from Russia if this tension continues to escalate?

Trump: Well, I want to just start by saying hopefully they're going to have to fear nothing, ultimately. Right now there is a fear and there are problems, certainly problems, but ultimately I hope there won't be a fear and won't be problems and the world can get along. That would be the ideal situation. It's crazy what's going on, whether it's the Middle East or you look at no matter where, the Ukraine, you look at -- whatever you look at, it's got problems. So many problems. And ultimately, I believe that we are going to get rid of most of those problems and there won't be fear of anybody. That's the way it should be.[1]

He doesn’t have an answer to the question, so he strings together a bunch of words that technically form sentences, but are utterly devoid of meaning. He doesn’t even come close to answering the reporter’s question at a level we’ve come to expect from the President.

But for some reason, 40% of the country nods their heads along with him and then posts questions like this. His answer makes sense in the way complete nonsense makes sense to you when you and your friend are super high in your parents’ basement. If you gave an answer like that at a meeting at work, you’d be fired on the spot for gross incompetence and embarrassing your company.

Pick nearly any policy area and you can find a Trump answer as incoherent as this one.

So I guess people don’t understand him because he is literally incomprehensible.
Why do we liberal not get along with trump. Why do... (show quote)


You are smart enough to know almost anyone is uncomprehensible. Where is your unbias you laud so much,your claim to look at all sides of an issue? And your claim to be an independent? And today a liberal? Incomprehensible..........

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Jun 17, 2017 08:29:08   #
Cool Breeze
 
working dog wrote:
Why would a smart man show his cards before the call .Another brain washed soul that needs his our help. Go TRUMP we are with you.And god bless america.


His deck of cards have six aces in it! Cheating lying POS!

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Jun 17, 2017 08:36:18   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Why do we liberal not get along with trump. Why do we not like his cabinet. Why do we think they are slugs.

I got 3 little bits on different topics to give you a clue.

feel free to jump in with your excuses.


Well, Attorney General Sessions lied under oath to the Senate about his meetings with the Russian ambassador/spy Sergey Kislyak during the campaign. (He also lied about it on his security clearance forms. And now it looks like he’s lied about it a third time!) As a result, he had to recuse himself from anything involving the Russia investigation. Of course, that didn’t stop him from doing Trump’s bidding and involving himself in the firing of Comey, who was overseeing the FBI’s Russia investigation — and of course, Trump subsequently told Lester Holt on national television (and told the Russians, including Sergey Kislyak, in the Oval Office) that he fired Comey to take the heat off himself from the Russia investigation. So, I guess if Jeff Sessions could make nonsense of his recusal once — what the heck, he might do it again, any day now, and find a pretext to charge Comey with perjury! Comey implied during his testimony there are more reasons to be wary of Sessions than those we know of, reasons that are currently classified, so it could all get very involved


As far as I can tell, Comey told no lies at all. I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that Comey lied (though I suspect it’s from the pro-Trump-no-matter-what right-wing media), but in a situation where you have different stories from two different people, any experienced investigator will tell you that it becomes a matter of credibility. Like him or not, Comey has built his entire career on credibility and integrity…whereas Trump has (as of June 5th, 2017) made 623 false and misleading claims.

I know whose word I would take.


Here’s Trump “telling it like it is” at a press conference a month ago:

Reporter: What do you think European countries have to fear from Russia if this tension continues to escalate?

Trump: Well, I want to just start by saying hopefully they're going to have to fear nothing, ultimately. Right now there is a fear and there are problems, certainly problems, but ultimately I hope there won't be a fear and won't be problems and the world can get along. That would be the ideal situation. It's crazy what's going on, whether it's the Middle East or you look at no matter where, the Ukraine, you look at -- whatever you look at, it's got problems. So many problems. And ultimately, I believe that we are going to get rid of most of those problems and there won't be fear of anybody. That's the way it should be.[1]

He doesn’t have an answer to the question, so he strings together a bunch of words that technically form sentences, but are utterly devoid of meaning. He doesn’t even come close to answering the reporter’s question at a level we’ve come to expect from the President.

But for some reason, 40% of the country nods their heads along with him and then posts questions like this. His answer makes sense in the way complete nonsense makes sense to you when you and your friend are super high in your parents’ basement. If you gave an answer like that at a meeting at work, you’d be fired on the spot for gross incompetence and embarrassing your company.

Pick nearly any policy area and you can find a Trump answer as incoherent as this one.

So I guess people don’t understand him because he is literally incomprehensible.
Why do we liberal not get along with trump. Why do... (show quote)


I got as far as Sessions lied, and Comey did not lie. You must truly be high.

I'm going to enjoy watching the truth come out as this investigation backfires on the left.

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Jun 17, 2017 08:39:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Lou,

I would agree with you except while he romances Russia, he tosses darts at Europe and NATO...

We can and should extend friendship to Russia. But we also must support our long time allies and treaties..


Not like Obama supported Israel, I hope.

Speakin of, remember his attempt to interfere with the Israeli election??

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Jun 17, 2017 08:40:00   #
Cool Breeze
 
Loki wrote:
Russia has not "been caught." Someone using Russian phishing techniques did some hacking. There has been no proof of one vote being changed due to this. Exactly how you can hack something that isn't hooked up to the internet is something that puzzles me.
The DNC was aware of the hacking and ignored it until they lost. Our own government uses these techniques. We have interfered in other countries' elections. We spy on the Russians, they spy on us. We also spy on our NATO allies and they return the favor. Ditto the Chinese, NK's, and pretty much everyone else in the world.
Hillary lost. Liberals somehow think that the Russians are responsible. There is as much proof of that as there is of "millions of illegal voters giving Hillary the popular vote."
Russia has not "been caught." Someone us... (show quote)


A Trump bobble head speaks!



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Jun 17, 2017 08:41:57   #
Bug58
 
permafrost wrote:
Lou,

I would agree with you except while he romances Russia, he tosses darts at Europe and NATO...

We can and should extend friendship to Russia. But we also must support our long time allies and treaties..


So, you think asking them to build up their own defenses and pay their agreed upon amount to NATO is a bad thing? Why??

Imagine if ALL these other nations paid what they agreed to pay for NATO defenses America could cut back on that spending, America spends way more
than all of those Nations because well, they cover the asses of all these other nations. How is asking them to keep their own PART of those agreed upon treaties throwing darts at them??

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Jun 17, 2017 08:43:34   #
Cool Breeze
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I got as far as Sessions lied, and Comey did not lie. You must truly be high.

I'm going to enjoy watching the truth come out as this investigation backfires on the left.


How will you recognize it? You have no brain!

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Jun 17, 2017 08:56:28   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
working dog wrote:
Why would a smart man show his cards before the call .Another brain washed soul that needs his our help. Go TRUMP we are with you.And god bless america.






The more President "45" Trump (R), "tweets," the more bread crumbs that "lefty" HAS to investigate. Brilliant. While President Trump (R), is miles ahead, and (R)evoking all that "lefty" has been using to "fundamentally transform" our "Shining Light on the Hill," mass-import "strangers," and (D)eport our business'. Brilliant. And "lefty," doesn't have a clue what to do, but more investigations to investigate the investigations of original investigations; as usual!!! GOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R); JUST LIKE THE WEATHER!!!

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Jun 17, 2017 09:09:32   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Bug58 wrote:
So, you think asking them to build up their own defenses and pay their agreed upon amount to NATO is a bad thing? Why??

Imagine if ALL these other nations paid what they agreed to pay for NATO defenses America could cut back on that spending, America spends way more
than all of those Nations because well, they cover the asses of all these other nations. How is asking them to keep their own PART of those agreed upon treaties throwing darts at them??


Exactly.

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Jun 17, 2017 09:11:53   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
How will you recognize it? You have no brain!


You dumb. And definitely, not cool. You need a name change. How bout "asswipe."

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Jun 17, 2017 09:34:50   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
How will you recognize it? You have no brain!






I've noticed a real anal fixation in most everything you post on OPP, WP {CB}. Why do you suppose that is??? Hummmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R); JUST LIKE THE WEATHER!!!

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Jun 17, 2017 09:36:07   #
Kazudy
 
Steve700,you're absolutely 100% correct. That Permafrost guy's brain if frozen permanently. That's how he got his name, what President Trump would call a real"nut job." Keep that idiot in his place.

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Jun 17, 2017 09:54:13   #
tugboat
 
Steve700 wrote:
Why are you caught up in this petty bull shit that is nothing more than a diversion to impede Trump from restoring America, making a job producing environment, ending the all pervasive corruption within our government and bringing our lost freedoms back. Do you prefer a president to fundamentally transform America into Marxism, increases government corruption many fold, having the IRS targeting one political party, Runs guns to the Mexican drug cartels, illegally releases the five most horrifficly savage terrorist commanders from Gitmo in trade for a deserter/defector who we should want back for no other reason other than to court-martial, sets up Ben Ghazi to happen by refusing multiple ongoing requests for added security then refuses to send help for 13 hours while the attack is going on. Man, you sure are easily manipulated and programmed in stupidity. Use your head and think what the hell you're doing and get upset, complain and do something about the real issues, petty made up bull shit that the Democrats make up because they have nothing real.

Does anything I'm telling you here even begin to get you thinking??? I kind of doubt it in view of your asinine way of being stuck on stupid regarding your denial and dismissal of all the proof shown to you regarding 9/11. This country is coming into real hard times because of idiots allowing themselves to be programmed with Marxist propaganda nonsense. Try listening to those whose prime values are Truth, Honesty and Integrity rather than those who have no respect for our governmental election system and whose agenda it is 24/7 to destroy Trump and grab the reins of power. This is subversion and an internal coup of our government. Your part of a communist revolution with your focus on this diversion from cleaning up the embedded corruption and restoring the nation.

Do you even understand that if Trump is totally successful a lot of your liberal leaders are gonna be going to prison and that is why the're manipulating and orchestrating all this craziness making something out of nothing and mountains out of mole hills
Why are you caught up in this petty bull shit that... (show quote)

I agree with you Steve. This whole Russia meddling in the election is a sad excuse for a poorly run election by the Dems.They thought this election was a slam dunk.They underestimated the voices of voters who were not brainwashed by the Obama administration. Instead of regrouping and fixing their problems they chose to attack anything and everything that blocks their agenda.It's all out war now.

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