Wrong Assumption on Wiretaps
Mar 8, 2017 22:48:05 #
tdsrnest wrote:
You're a person that lacks ANYKIND of common sense. The FBI performs wiretap through the FISA court and nothing was issued on Trump and the FBI had said that Trump is lying. so stop listening to those GD conspiracy idiots and that orange haired pathological lying piec of Sh!T and use some common sense.
Stop the BD
Stop the BD
This is what gets me about the way your brain (and the brains of the Lefties) work. You believe Comey and the FBI was lying, or maybe mistaken, about Clinton; but now the FBI is telling the truth about Trump, when they say he is lying.
Mar 8, 2017 22:50:52 #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
And the conservatives consistently prove themselves to be the least intelligent people on earth!
Republican Act# 4200 or the Anti-wiretapping law was passed on June 19th 1960!
Republican Act# 4200 or the Anti-wiretapping law was passed on June 19th 1960!
So?
Criminals usually don't obey laws, RW. Maybe you didn't know that. Thieves steal even though the law says not to. Murderers murder even though it is against the law.
You can't possibly believe what you're saying: that because there is a law against it, Ovomit didn't do it.
AND, CONSIDER THIS POSSIBILITY: IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE FBI! OVOMIT MAY HAVE USED OTHER MEANS TO GET IT DONE!
Wake up!
Mar 9, 2017 07:32:38 #
guitarman wrote:
The idea circulating in the media is that someone ... (show quote)
You might be right. I believe that someone did it. Kind of like the hacks of the DNC; someone did it, and the Russians were a convenient scapegoat. There is still no proof it was the Russian government. Our own government uses these same techniques to hack other countries.
Mar 9, 2017 08:06:46 #
tdsrnest wrote:
You're a person that lacks ANYKIND of common sense. The FBI performs wiretap through the FISA court and nothing was issued on Trump and the FBI had said that Trump is lying. so stop listening to those GD conspiracy idiots and that orange haired pathological lying piec of Sh!T and use some common sense.
Stop the BD
Stop the BD
Speaking of "common sense"? When are you getting yours?
Mar 9, 2017 08:42:42 #
HedgeHog wrote:
You are, of course, correct, BB.
Remember David Frost's interview with Nixon? At the end Nixon admitted he believed "Nothing the president does is illegal." When Ovomit heard that, instead of thinking it wrong, he picked it up and ran with it. I know, I was there.
Remember David Frost's interview with Nixon? At the end Nixon admitted he believed "Nothing the president does is illegal." When Ovomit heard that, instead of thinking it wrong, he picked it up and ran with it. I know, I was there.
Were you in court when Pilate washed his hands as well?
Mar 9, 2017 10:30:45 #
guitarman wrote:
The idea circulating in the media is that someone ... (show quote)
Since Trump was purposely vague about his claim, that may be what it "thinks." But there's no evidence of anyone working with inside information against Trump. The "outside contractors" of whom you speak haven't been mentioned. Since they broke the law, why aren't the Trump surrogates at DoJ looking for anything like that?
Highly implausible
Mar 9, 2017 10:34:40 #
Loki wrote:
You might be right. I believe that someone did it. Kind of like the hacks of the DNC; someone did it, and the Russians were a convenient scapegoat. There is still no proof it was the Russian government. Our own government uses these same techniques to hack other countries.
Loki, has someone accused the Russians of wire-tapping Trump Tower? I must have missed that.
Mar 9, 2017 10:35:16 #
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Mar 9, 2017 11:23:11 #
HedgeHog wrote:
And so that's proof. Just because, as you are apparently implying, the FBI couldn't have done it because the court says they can't unless they have FISA approval, doesn't mean they didn't. FISA is only a paper prevention. It only works if the FBI is caught.
There's a sucker born every minute.
There's a sucker born every minute.
Keep in mind a FISA warrant doesn't require probable cause to be issued. And it has been reported by 3 news agencies that an application for a FISA warrant with Trumps name on it was rejected, then 5 months later an application, with a more narrow search for a "server" at Trump tower, (one that had already been investigated by the FBI, and determined to have no criminal connections to the 2 banks at the center of the investigation) was approved with an incredibly thin excuse.We constantly hear about how the "seriousness of the allegations" require investigation when Democrats want to continue to smear their political opponents, well there is evidence that SOMETHING was going on concerning investigating Trump right before the election. IF Obama and those operatives he appointed and left in the bureaucracy have nothing to hide, they should welcome the chance to clear this up
Mar 9, 2017 11:26:35 #
grey gringo
Loc: South Texas
You forget that Clapper lied to congress about metadata gathering on All Americans. It is no stretch of the imagination to assume that President Trump's communications were monitored by NSA or the FBI without benefit of warrants. It is standard operating procedure for the government to circumvent the law, the FBI, NSA, CIA etc are all guilty of using "Rogue" agents to achieve their nefarious goals...
tdsrnest wrote:
You're a person that lacks ANYKIND of common sense. The FBI performs wiretap through the FISA court and nothing was issued on Trump and the FBI had said that Trump is lying. so stop listening to those GD conspiracy idiots and that orange haired pathological lying piec of Sh!T and use some common sense.
Stop the BD
Stop the BD
Mar 9, 2017 11:27:15 #
Ricktloml wrote:
Keep in mind a FISA warrant doesn't require probab... (show quote)
I'm just saying whether the FBI had FISA approval or not is inconsequential. They, or someone else---maybe someone involved in a shadow government of some sort---could have gone ahead and done it anyway.
And knowing Ovomit as I do, he could have gotten someone in the FBI to do it without going through normal channels.
Mar 9, 2017 11:32:21 #
grey gringo wrote:
You forget that Clapper lied to congress about metadata gathering on All Americans. It is no stretch of the imagination to assume that President Trump's communications were monitored by NSA or the FBI without benefit of warrants. It is standard operating procedure for the government to circumvent the law, the FBI, NSA, CIA etc are all guilty of using "Rogue" agents to achieve their nefarious goals...
Rogue agents, with the help of drugs, maybe.
Like that which took place in the Aurora Theatre Massacre. 2012, I believe. I used to live near there.
Mar 9, 2017 11:33:03 #
Ricktloml wrote:
Keep in mind a FISA warrant doesn't require probab... (show quote)
A FISA warrant does need probable cause. The standards are less stringent, not waived altogether. The FISA court will not issue a warrant because the target once nodded hello to a person of interest in a hotel lobby.
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