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Jan 13, 2014 09:41:36   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
banjojack wrote:
Any system of government that is not closely monitored by the governed eventually becomes more totalitarian. More power concentrated in fewer hands. While TEA Partiers, have the right idea in limiting government, that is only half of the solution. An informed, engaged electorate is vital. We are in our current mess because of the lack of one. Civics has been replaced by multi-cultural studies. A student may have no idea how the government works, but he can tell you all about digging Taro roots in the South Pacific. or underwater basket weaving in Rwanda, or a folk dance in Estonia. A republic cannot survive a stupid, apathetic voting constituency. An appalling number of people are absolutely clueless, cannot even name their Congressman, or one of their Senators. They are too busy watching "America's Got Talent." I'm glad America's got talent, because we appear to be running low on intelligence.
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Jan 13, 2014 10:15:02   #
Mr Bill
 
Yes, deporting all the illegals would help the poor a lot. It would open up billions of dollars for programs to help the American poor. It would also open up jobs for Americans because the illegals would have to give up the jobs they shouldn't have had in the first place! Enough of the Democrats and Rhinos crying about the "poor illegal that just wants a chance to work" and "if they are deported, it will break up families." How about Americans that just want a chance to work? How about the American families that are broke up because of poverty? If I remember correctly, this is America and these politicians took oaths to look after Americans and their interests. Wake up Washington D.C.!

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Jan 13, 2014 10:27:36   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Blue Flu wrote:
You should take a closer look at the Democrat plan. It appears that they have succeeded in convincing you that they actually care about the poor. Has it ever occurred to you that the Democrat leadership, since the days of LBJ, is engaged in legalized vote buying? In a nutshell, their plan is to get as many people as possible on the Government nipple in return for their votes. They nurture the idea that the mean Republicans want to strip them of entitlements and cast them out into the cold.
It doesn't matter to the "Robin Hood" Democrats that their programs have done far more harm than good. Just look at how they've ruined most of the Black family structure in the name of helping. An 80% illegitimacy rate and Uncle Sam replacing the male head of household are monuments to their success.
Protected by the word "racist", today we have 3rd generation welfare recipients and a Nation with unfunded liabilities that dwarf the 17 billion dollar national debt.
We've painted ourselves into a dangerous corner. Any drastic cutback on what these folks have come to believe is theirs forever equals massive unrest. It's an implied pistol pointed at society's head. All of this at a time when the Nation is on the brink of bankruptcy.
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Blue: The Truth hurts...because it has no agenda..well said!

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Jan 13, 2014 11:09:49   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
americangreed wrote:
Last I checked there were more whites on welfare and food stamps. 80 million is a large number. But it pales in comparison with corporate welfare given through tax loopholes and political deals.


You are correct: that more whites are on welfare, pretty humorous. And 9% of those recipients are over the age of 60.

The US Department of Agriculture seems to be a self-sustaining entity today. Food stamps seem like a moral choice, as long as someone is purchasing suitable food, which I suspect the latter.

My wife and I spend as little as a $100 a week and we eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables-you just have to know where to look for the deals. I have 3 boys, who are elementary to teenage years old and are doing quite well on a "natural" diet.

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Jan 13, 2014 11:13:16   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Right on Banjo
banjojack wrote:
I mostly agree, but all government assistance is not bad. I had a heart attack, requiring a by pass, and another heart surgery to correct problems from the first. Shortly afterwards, (4 months) I had a serious back injury that required two more surgeries. I was on food stamps for about a year, while rehabbing, physical therapy, etc. I no longer receive them. There is nothing wrong with a safety net for people who need temporary help due to illness or injury. There is something wrong with people who have never worked, paid taxes, served in the military, or contributed anything to society receiving these entitlements as their "due."
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Jan 13, 2014 11:29:47   #
Mr Bill
 
There probably is more white people on welfare because the majority of people in this country are white!

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Jan 13, 2014 11:33:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Mr Bill wrote:
There probably is more white people on welfare because the majority of people in this country are white!


I thought I just said that. Percentage wise, about 30%, same as blacks. Once more, around twice as high a percentage of Hispanics, excluding Cubans. In the case of illegals, as high as 80% to 90% in some areas of the country. So much for starry eyed immigrants in search of the "American Dream."

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Jan 13, 2014 11:46:57   #
Kenneth Biggs Loc: Nashville,Tennessee
 
TO EVERYONE HERE, IWAS RAISED DEMOCRATE, BUT AS I GOT OLDER I BECAME INDEPENDANT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE DEMS HAVE MOSTLY BEEN FORE THE POOR,AND MIDDLE CLASS CITIZENS!?, THANKS,KENNETH BIGGS.

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Jan 13, 2014 12:00:01   #
Mr Bill
 
The Demon-crats would have you believe that they are for the poor and middle-class. If you've kept up on news, the middle-class is shrinking more every day. Their agenda actually is to have two peoples, the rich and the poor. A poor person is easier to control. Just give them enough to survive, but no more. Meanwhile the politicians can keep stuffing their pockets with more money and feel superior to the people whose lives they have made harder with their insane policies,(illegal-immigration, unemployment, healthcare, ect.)!

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Jan 13, 2014 12:05:28   #
teaman
 
Are you talking about local politicians or federal politicians? If you are talking about federal, they should be doing NOTHING!!! It is not the responsibility of the federal guberment to provide for your personal needs. That is state and local responsibility!

The number one responsibility of the federal guberment(NOT MISPELLED) is "PROTECTING OUR NATION FROM ALL OUR ENEMIES BOTH FOREGIN AND DOMESTIC", and that is in the Constitution!

I am damn tired of these federal goodie programs that are rampant with fraud, waste, and abuse at hardworking tax payers expense! Not talking about Social Security and Medicare, for 'THOSE' who have "PAID" into the system it is NOT welfare!

The greatest answer for the poor is to get a job doing something and accept what you get paid and live with it!

I am 71 and have had many hard times but have NEVER accepted a hand out of any kind from the guberment! I worked hard at every job and accepted my pay and lived with it!

Sure, there are people who truly need help because of physical/health conditions but most of the time they can't get what they truly need because of all the freeloaders!

Do you truly know what the responsibility is of a politician at any level? It is to do what is "RIGHT" for the Nation/State/City/County and NOT to provide you whiney butts with goodies!

Now, go head you liberals.....jump all over me! I could care less!!!! It is the TRUTH and you know it!!!!!

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Jan 13, 2014 12:07:11   #
Kenneth Biggs Loc: Nashville,Tennessee
 
MR BILL,YOU JUST MIGHT BE RIGHT, BECAUSE ,''THERE ARE NO HONEST POLITITIONS'', ALL YOU CAN DO IS VOTE FORE WHO YOU THINK WILL DO THE BEST JOB , AND PRAY TO GOD YOUR AT LEAST HALF-WAY RIGHT!, THANKS, KENNETH BIGGS.

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Jan 13, 2014 12:14:41   #
Mr Bill
 
It's an uphill battle what with all the corruption, it's also one we cannot afford to lose. Democrats AND Republicans are doing their best to destroy our freedoms and our country.

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Jan 13, 2014 12:16:17   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
teaman wrote:
Are you talking about local politicians or federal politicians? If you are talking about federal, they should be doing NOTHING!!! It is not the responsibility of the federal guberment to provide for your personal needs. That is state and local responsibility!

The number one responsibility of the federal guberment(NOT MISPELLED) is "PROTECTING OUR NATION FROM ALL OUR ENEMIES BOTH FOREGIN AND DOMESTIC", and that is in the Constitution!

I am damn tired of these federal goodie programs that are rampant with fraud, waste, and abuse at hardworking tax payers expense! Not talking about Social Security and Medicare, for 'THOSE' who have "PAID" into the system it is NOT welfare!

The greatest answer for the poor is to get a job doing something and accept what you get paid and live with it!

I am 71 and have had many hard times but have NEVER accepted a hand out of any kind from the guberment! I worked hard at every job and accepted my pay and lived with it!

Sure, there are people who truly need help because of physical/health conditions but most of the time they can't get what they truly need because of all the freeloaders!

Do you truly know what the responsibility is of a politician at any level? It is to do what is "RIGHT" for the Nation/State/City/County and NOT to provide you whiney butts with goodies!

Now, go head you liberals.....jump all over me! I could care less!!!! It is the TRUTH and you know it!!!!!
Are you talking about local politicians or federal... (show quote)


Teaman: You are unfortunately a dying breed...I feel the same way.....but collectively, as a society, our actions prove that we value style over substance, celebrity over principal, and victimization over self reliance. My parents believed in hard work and helped their neighbors, because their neighbors would try to help themselves. My parents never knew they were poor until the Government told them so!!!!!
You are free to choose, but you are not freed from the consequence of your choice!!! The Government is taking away the consequence and putting the burden own our Grandchildren!

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Jan 13, 2014 12:31:26   #
Mr Bill
 
Who the hell said anything about wanting anything from our government other than accountability and honesty? I am 60 and not some naïve kid, I am also not blind to what's going on in this corrupt "government" we have. Yes, I know that there are a lot of freeloaders that don't want to work. I also know that it's not as easy to find work as it once was. But what really grinds me is this giving all kinds of assistance to illegal-aliens. These people are criminals by their very presence in this country. Yet billions of dollars meant for Americans go to these illegal-invaders! Social-services, medical, education, and jailing them when they have committed more crimes, all paid for by you, me, and other tax-payers!

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Jan 13, 2014 14:54:52   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Blue Flu wrote:
You should take a closer look at the Democrat plan. It appears that they have succeeded in convincing you that they actually care about the poor. Has it ever occurred to you that the Democrat leadership, since the days of LBJ, is engaged in legalized vote buying? In a nutshell, their plan is to get as many people as possible on the Government nipple in return for their votes. They nurture the idea that the mean Republicans want to strip them of entitlements and cast them out into the cold.
It doesn't matter to the "Robin Hood" Democrats that their programs have done far more harm than good. Just look at how they've ruined most of the Black family structure in the name of helping. An 80% illegitimacy rate and Uncle Sam replacing the male head of household are monuments to their success.
Protected by the word "racist", today we have 3rd generation welfare recipients and a Nation with unfunded liabilities that dwarf the 17 billion dollar national debt.
We've painted ourselves into a dangerous corner. Any drastic cutback on what these folks have come to believe is theirs forever equals massive unrest. It's an implied pistol pointed at society's head. All of this at a time when the Nation is on the brink of bankruptcy.
You should take a closer look at the Democrat plan... (show quote)


I think you misspelled "trillion." The national debt is 17 trillion.

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