permafrost Loc: Minnesota

1. Our worst problem is that our citizens are very divided on what is happening. How do we address that?

I think your ideas a great. Noble even. But your first item shows the main problem, getting us all to compromise a bit. Can you see Bo and Old School giving an inch on anything they post?

Fine idea, I would like it to happen...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Can not seem to get this working right...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

You got that right, for a change. I DON'T COMPROMISE! If the democrats TRULY practiced real compromise, I might give it a try...but, they don't.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Health care is a business. It should be run like a business with less government and 3rd party intervention. Ask yourself what other business can you enter and their are no prices for procedures or even room rates. You and your doctor should have control of your health care. For those who have pre-existing conditions a state subsidized high risk pool should be set up. You have to know we are weaker in the world or you are just another Obama worshipper. If you were ever told by someone that you better not cross this line in the sand and then you did and they did nothing you knew then they were just talk. You also knew not to take them serious. The leadership in Afghanistan spits in our face. The new rules of engagement put our troops at risk. Iraq has begun to dissolve into a terrorist haven. Iran thumbs there noses at us. You might be fine with all this. I just happen to believe it makes the world more unsafe when the U.S. isn't perceived as the big dog on the block anymore. So you think these dictators in the Middle East are looking out for their people. We as a country have helped free more people from tyrants than any other country. We are the most generous country in the world. Do the rich Middle East countries send food and supplies to disaster struck areas? No! They are to busy funding terrorism around the globe while people like you say its none of our business. The increase in food stamps, unemployment benefits , people dropping out of the work force, part-time workers are a direct product of this administrations policies. They no nothing about business, hence a 600 million dollar web site. Jobs go overseas for a number of reasons. Mostly the low cost of labor and favorable tax treatment. You don't need to go on and on . I know where your coming from. You are a big government kind of guy I believe. Fine. I'm not . I believe in people and a hand up. Not a hand out.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Yes, health care is a biz. It was a mess and out of control before the Govt. got into it..The high risk account idea is good but did not work for me. It got a short try in Minnesota but the rate for my condition was about 1300$ per mo. That was 25 or more years ago..Yes, we are weaker in the view of the world. Obama is lousy at foreign relations/policy. Iraq is and will be a haven for terrorists. I do not trust Iran..I would like it if the US was not policing the world, we are doing it for big oil/biz not for our own citizens.. Yes, the US is the savior and most generous country in the world, but we are not the only one giving aid. Europe, many in the Mid-east, India, China, ever 2nd tier counties from South America give aid in time of disaster. We have liberated people from tyrants but have also supported tyrants who have been on "our" side even as the suppressed their own citizens. The administration has had little to do with the recession, all those food stamps, unemployment etc are the result of decades of past practice. The ACA website is a mind boggling bit of incompetence. An embarrassment to anyone involved..The move overseas, as you said, wages and tax treatment, has been going on for decades..Mfg will never be back to what it once was..We need to plan another route..Welfare should be changed to give that hand up not a never ending handout...

clarkwv Loc: west virginia

Allow me to answer back,

Healthcare
Why should business people have a say in your healthcare, from insurance executives to hospital administrators? There really are two subjects when it comes to healthcare, who makes the decisions about you healthcare, second is how should it be paid for.

I will admit we as a country, we have the best healthcare money can buy, but most of Europe have lower infant mortality rate, as well longer life expectancy at a lower cost per person, how do you explain this.

I see it as it should be a service as every man woman or child needs good healthcare to look for happiness.

seen as weaker in the world
Does this mean you wish to return to the policies of G W Bush? We did not win any friends with his policy of you are with us or against us? You last bit on the subject, "Additionally they see a CinC who is derided by people like me who views him as an imposter, an anti-American imposter who, if he was truly "elected", was elected by a bunch of morons. The world sees US citizens as a bunch of weak-kneed losers, thanks solely to Obama and his followers. I am sorry if you don't like my saying these things, but they are true, and you DID ask." is a statement of your opinion, not fact.

On the next point I should shown I was talking about JFlorio's comment, "When the U S leaves a place the influence void is filled and not usually by one of our friend." Her statement is very true, but why should we, especially in the mid-east expect any thing different? All we and many others wanted out of the middle east is there oil, any we and others put in place rules who made sure we got the oil, but we did not a anything to make sure the oil money got to the people of those countries and after those rulers are gone we expect the people to like us. A great deal of the people of the work hate us, because all we ever worried about is what American business could take out of those countries for the good of those business and the heck with the people of thse countries.

Food stamps
Here you lay the blame on Obama for taxes and regulations forcing jobs overseas, I as exactly what taxes and regulations are you talking about?

On your post, "Bring honesty to conversation between left and right, is not about conversation but your view point from the right and that is not conversation.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Though you didn't address this officially to me, I am the one who posted the above mentioned thread. My answer is that you haven't read what I've written about it. I want ALL VIEWS, INCLUDING MINE, stated because I want all of us to understand what the OTHER one's views truly mean - not mantras, not sound bites, but how does the other side really THINK, assuming those who come to that site can and are willing to THINK. It's time to stop the bickering because all of us are suffering solely because of our government's directives, taxes, and policies, throughout the years. We can all continue to suffer or we can work together to solve the problems - because that is the ONLY way to get the problems solved. No politician is going to do the work for us. You should feel free to criticize it as much as you like on other threads, but NOT ON THE THREAD we are talking about. We will not have arguments at that site. We will be adults or we will be absent, but we will not have fighting.

I would hope you would join in, but if you don't like the fact that a conservative posed it, that is your problem and your prerogative to stay away. We don't need EVERYONE, just a few thinkers will do nicely. :-)

dafongi Loc: the Green mountain state

Well said brother, you nailed it !!!

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

bmac: Liberalism is Godless, a nihilistic black hole, “the ultimate paradise of the fool." Most liberals would rather have their ears tickled with lies to make them feel good.

Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona

People do not realize that the two things which have messed up health care well before Obama entered the White House are insurance companies and government involvement.
Well over half a dollar spent in the realm of health care has gone to the government in the means of taxes, licenses, permits, and fees.
And most of the remaining change of every dollar spent on health care goes to the insurance companies.
Anyone who tells you otherwise either does not know what she/he is talking about, or she/he is an employee of the insurance industry or the government.
If the government and insurance companies were not involved, basic capitalism, which is based on what the consumer can and will pay for something, would bring the cost of health care down tremendously.
And if you do not believe this, you have listened and believed too many politicians and insurance representatives.

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Will I am: I've been preaching this same logic for months...just add in tort reform and you just sliced another 30% off the bill!

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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I have no problem with anything you mentioned. However, having been in the health care industry for 20+ years, I can add one very important reason health care costs have soared: lawsuits. I guess people have always sued, but in recent years many people have decided to use lawsuits as their method of income.... and doctors, hospitals, and pharmaceutical companies are their targets for income.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

A truer statement was never uttered.

Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona

Very true. My father was a pediatric surgeon, who never was sued, but never-the-less, his required malpractice insurance against being sued was $60,000 the last year he practiced, about 8 or 9 years ago.