To Liberals and Conservatives the same words have different meanings. Liberals and Conservatives think differently, process concepts differently and arrive at different conclusions. (Parenthetically, lawyers and real estate brokers use words that have different meanings in their trade than what the same words mean to people not in the same businesses, probably the same thing in medicine). There is a free chapter on this at Romancing The Voters.com One reason it is difficult to communicate between Liberals and Conservatives.

Excellent points Fred...You seem to look at.... form of socialism... and... socialism... as the same .The wealthy Americans you seek are right here ... constantly blaming the poor for their problems... food stamps... unemployment insurance... welfare...National debt.... In a capitalist society why do we give large sums of money to the wealthy capitalists.. socialist redistribution of tax money by bureaucrats ... We spend trillions on our Military to protect who...the American people or The Large Corporations who need other country's resource's to profit .

Corporate fascism and Corporatism is related to the sociological concept of structural functionalism.[5] Corporate social interaction is common within kinship groups such as families, clans and ethnicities.[6] Aside from humans, certain animal species are known to exhibit strong corporate social organization, such as penguins.[7][8] Corporatist types of community and social interaction are common to many ideologies, including: absolutism, capitalism, conservatism, fascism, liberalism, progressivism, reactionism, socialism, and syndicalism.[9]

Corporatism may also refer to economic tripartism involving negotiations between business, labour, and state interest groups to establish economic policy.[10] This is sometimes also referred to as neo-corporation


Socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.


synonyms: leftism, welfarism;


radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;

communism, Marxism, labor movement

"my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
We are ever evolving into the unknown.. there are many other possible forms in our future not listed .

emarine: Please name one wealthy American or send me one statement from a wealthy American "blaming the poor for their problems." In 50 years of reading, listening, watching TV, and meetings attended I have never met anyone who said it (other than generally speaking by a self-professed liberal), never seen a quote from a real live person, or heard one on the radio or TV saying such a thing. I'm not asking for hundreds of examples from Americans "right here" but only asking for one example.

I like your comparisons between social capitalism and socialism. There is a family I’m close to that would seem to fit into your social capitalism definition. Same families and friends for generations have been starting up and running banks for years and are very good at it.

I confess to you I'm a Google addict and found your challenge intriguing to emarine to find one example of someone rich blaming the poor for their problems. The following links to your challenge below may fit your request.
“Herman Cain to "Occupy Wall Street" protesters: Don't blame Wall St, blame yourself.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/herman-cain-to-occupy-wall-street-protesters-dont-blame-wall-...

http://www.therichest.com/tag/herman-cain-net-worth-forbes/

Herman Cain Net Worth
Former Godfather’s Pizza CEO and 2012 presidential candidate, Herman Cain has an estimated net worth of $18 million.

Is that really your picture? I think you may be the only one here on OPP that uses his real pic. Your pic has you looking professional and knowledgeable.

How many of those living below the poverty line failed to attain a high school diploma? Who is responsible for them not attaining it?

How many of those living below the poverty line are single parents or the children of same? Who is responsible for single parenthood?

How many of those living below the poverty line refused to accept any job, even if it paid minimum wage, in order to prove a work ethic? Who is responsible for those who never sought or accepted any job?

How many of those living below the poverty line are illegally in the country? Who is responsible for choosing to ignore immigration laws and enter America?


At what point does a person become responsible for the outcome of their own choices?

I like your comparisons between social capitalism and socialism. There is a family I’m close to that would seem to fit into your social capitalism definition. Same families and friends for generations have been starting up and running banks for years and are very good at it.

I confess to you I'm a Google addict and found your challenge intriguing to emarine to find one example of someone rich blaming the poor for their problems. The following links to your challenge below may fit your request.
“Herman Cain to "Occupy Wall Street" protesters: Don't blame Wall St, blame yourself.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/herman-cain-to-occupy-wall-street-protesters-dont-blame-wall-...

http://www.therichest.com/tag/herman-cain-net-worth-forbes/

Herman Cain Net Worth
Former Godfather’s Pizza CEO and 2012 presidential candidate, Herman Cain has an estimated net worth of $18 million.

Is that really your picture? I think you may be the only one here on OPP that uses his real pic. Your pic has you looking professional and knowledgeable.

I like your comparisons between social capitalism and socialism. There is a family I’m close to that would seem to fit into your social capitalism definition. Same families and friends for generations have been starting up and running banks for years and are very good at it.

I confess to you I'm a Google addict and found your challenge intriguing to emarine to find one example of someone rich blaming the poor for their problems. The following links to your challenge below may fit your request.

Is that really your picture? I think you may be the only one here on OPP that uses his real pic. Your pic has you looking professional and knowledgeable.

emarine: Please name one wealthy American or send me one statement from a wealthy American "blaming the poor for their problems." In 50 years of reading, listening, watching TV, and meetings attended I have never met anyone who said it (other than generally speaking by a self-professed liberal), never seen a quote from a real live person, or heard one on the radio or TV saying such a thing. I'm not asking for hundreds of examples from Americans "right here" but only asking for one example.

Fred... I feel that home ownership has been a big part of the American dream since the end of WW2... During the 2012 elections Mitt Romney said that we should let bank foreclosures run their course and let investors rent back to those who lost their homes, In the video that caught Mitt off guard he stated that 47% of Americans basically didn't count because they did not pay income tax... his entire game plan focused on the wealthy... the few Americans who need the least help. Now factor in Citizens united... remember... corporations are people too my friend and there goes the Democratic election process to the wealthy who can buy politician's using the voice of the media to sway the vote. Now on the other hand Rush Limbaugh blames the poor every chance he gets stating they are lazy and food stamps and welfare are a free hand out fueling the debt, but then again Rush did not run for president yet. As you read into this forum many here support Rushes views and the far majority voted for Romney... I have supported the GOP for 30 years but will register independent for the next election... I have been self employed for almost 30 years and understand nothing is free and hard work is rewarding but way too many American family's falling into poverty while the wealthy are on auto pilot. I feel for the government employees that are loosing the 1% cost of living reduction but for the most part the private sector has been losing 2.5% per year for almost 20 years. It seems that the wealthy paid just a few percent more in the 90s and things worked out better, between war and tax cuts the working
American middle class took the hit while the wealthy made more money... An in depth look at the tax law and its not too hard to figure out why. Sorry for the long rant but to answer your question I choose Rush with a listening audience of over 14 million 5 days a week followed by Glen Beck, another who blames the poor and unemployed at the rate of 7.5 million listeners per day.

I agree that for the most part those that have less don't do as much as they could to make things better.

But as the numbers of people having little grow One can point to there being unfairness in the system.

It is just at what level would it get you to think it is some thing wrong with the system.

Romney gave a figure of 47%

How close to the 1% having 100% dose it have to get before you say enough is enough?

I look for a turn around with the numbers of poor falling.

At least could there be a point where those with the most would say enough is enough?

I feel that I have enough & if I can keep up with the cost of living I will be fine with what I have.

Can you say that?

Fred... I feel that home ownership has been a big part of the American dream since the end of WW2... During the 2012 elections Mitt Romney said that we should let bank foreclosures run their course and let investors rent back to those who lost their homes, In the video that caught Mitt off guard he stated that 47% of Americans basically didn't count because they did not pay income tax... his entire game plan focused on the wealthy... the few Americans who need the least help. Now factor in Citizens united... remember... corporations are people too my friend and there goes the Democratic election process to the wealthy who can buy politician's using the voice of the media to sway the vote. Now on the other hand Rush Limbaugh blames the poor every chance he gets stating they are lazy and food stamps and welfare are a free hand out fueling the debt, but then again Rush did not run for president yet. As you read into this forum many here support Rushes views and the far majority voted for Romney... I have supported the GOP for 30 years but will register independent for the next election... I have been self employed for almost 30 years and understand nothing is free and hard work is rewarding but way too many American family's falling into poverty while the wealthy are on auto pilot. I feel for the government employees that are loosing the 1% cost of living reduction but for the most part the private sector has been losing 2.5% per year for almost 20 years. It seems that the wealthy paid just a few percent more in the 90s and things worked out better, between war and tax cuts the working
American middle class took the hit while the wealthy made more money... An in depth look at the tax law and its not too hard to figure out why. Sorry for the long rant but to answer your question I choose Rush with a listening audience of over 14 million 5 days a week followed by Glen Beck, another who blames the poor and unemployed at the rate of 7.5 million listeners per day.