The Republican Party is Destroying America (Page 21): Lying is telling a known untruth. Do you agree? If you don't know a statement to be false when you say it, you are not lying. Why...

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

claytonln wrote:

I just find it hard to believe he didn't know what was going on. If he didn't then he is incompetent. Throughout his terms he hasn't known anything about anything that wasn't right. There is a pattern there and it isn't one that looks good for him. Regardless, he either knowing lied or he unknowing lied, but he did lie.

I just find it hard to believe that he didn't know. I mean, can anyone really be that inept?

Lying is telling a known untruth. Do you agree?

If you don't know a statement to be false when you say it, you are not lying. Why conform to double standards of others?

Knowing lies are the only kind of lies, I consider wrong. I will not condemn Obama for lying in this matter. I will condemn him for not informing himself, and presume all further statements from him to be equally uninformed.

His willful ignorance is beneath a leader.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

Augustus Greatorex wrote:

Lying is telling a known untruth. Do you agree?

If you don't know a statement to be false when you say it, you are not lying. Why conform to double standards of others?

Knowing lies are the only kind of lies, I consider wrong. I will not condemn Obama for lying in this matter. I will condemn him for not informing himself, and presume all further statements from him to be equally uninformed.

His willful ignorance is beneath a leader.

See you trust him more than I do. I think he knew and he lied. :lol:

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

claytonln wrote:

See you trust him more than I do. I think he knew and he lied. :lol:

Not at all, I think he's an authority, who didn't know what he could have known. Such dereliction of duty costs American lives. I trust him less than I trust a chronic liar. Because in every lie contains some truth, but the uninformed statement may not contain any truth.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

Augustus Greatorex wrote:

Not at all, I think he's an authority, who didn't know what he could have known. Such dereliction of duty costs American lives. I trust him less than I trust a chronic liar. Because in every lie contains some truth, but the uninformed statement may not contain any truth.

I understand. I just find it hard to believe that he didn't know what was in there. I don't disagree with you, I just think he knew. But, I could be wrong. The entire Democrat party passed it without reading it so anything is possible.

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

You have just lied I submitted proof the other day to the contrary that some had read it, and you admitted to the fact that it was true! Don't make me go back and repost your comment!

claytonln wrote:

I understand. I just find it hard to believe that he didn't know what was in there. I don't disagree with you, I just think he knew. But, I could be wrong. The entire Democrat party passed it without reading it so anything is possible.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

Raylan Wolfe wrote:

You have just lied I submitted proof the other day to the contrary that some had read it, and you admitted to the fact that it was true! Don't make me go back and repost your comment!

do it.

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

And yet you are still listening 15 pages later!

claytonln wrote:

and I would prefer not to listen to you at all.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

Raylan Wolfe wrote:

And yet you are still listening 15 pages later!

Uh that would be my business. And I will respond to you this one last time.
Listening is not responding, you do understand that. It is not your posts that I read.

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

So if you don't read my comment how did you know how to respond as you just did?

claytonln wrote:

Uh that would be my business. And I will respond to you this one last time.
Listening is not responding, you do understand that. It is not your posts that I read.

son of witless

Augustus Greatorex wrote:

Wow! You don't get it. br br In the Affordable C... (show quote)

Wow, you have swallowed the entire falsehood. Even President Obama knows he lied. He apologized mostly because Clinton shamed him and the political damage got too heavy. How dishonest do you have to be when Bill Clinton lectures you on honesty and you respond?

Do you really have no idea about the Grandfathering scam? There was no way for most of the old policies to stay Grandfathered because any change, even microscopic changes voided the policies. That was on purpose. On freaking Purpose.

My friend, minor changes get made to policies all of the time. Obama and his merry band of liars knew that.

Let me educate you. The President said he could insure 30 million new people without adding one penny to the deficit. Now how do you suppose he did that? Magic?

He did it by making everybody else pay more for their health insurance, a lot more. How did he do that? He forces you to pay for coverage you do not want and tells you your current insurance is SubStandard. He blew up the current insurance market and forced you to crawl to Obamacare.

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

No Obama Didn't Lie About Your Health Care Plan!

http://www.alternet.org/no-obama-didnt-lie-you-about-your-health-care-plans

son of witless wrote:

Wow, you have swallowed the entire falsehood. Even... (show quote)

son of witless

Raylan Wolfe wrote:

No Obama Didn't Lie About Your Health Care Plan!

http://www.alternet.org/no-obama-didnt-lie-you-about-your-health-care-plans

Hey buddy, do you keep track of your responses? Do you care if you contradict yourself? Previously I asked you if President Obama lied when he said you could keep your health care plan if you liked it.

Please explain to the audience how your last comment does not conflict with your answer to me then!

claytonln Loc: Kansas

son of witless wrote:

Hey buddy, do you keep track of your responses? Do you care if you contradict yourself? Previously I asked you if President Obama lied when he said you could keep your health care plan if you liked it.

Please explain to the audience how your last comment does not conflict with your answer to me then!

He's just a pot stirrer.

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

Joining the elite club of liars does mean he lied about health care!

Raylan Wolfe wrote:

Of Course Presidents Lie!

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/24/politics/presidents-lie/index.html

Every President has not only lied at sometime, but needs to lie to be effective. Ronald Reagan lied about trading weapons to Iran. And Obama has joined that elite club of liars. AND?

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

GW Bush Convicted of War Crimes!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/13/george-w-bush-dick-cheney-convicted-of-war-crimes/

claytonln wrote:

He's just a pot stirrer.