Cedarstrip Loc: Michigan

Your ideas? Remember, you are an "Obama Progressive". http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-446-3.html
You don't have ideas of your own.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, lightfoot: You got that right pard. The Chardo: "The Che harassing aggravating radical domestic obstructor", views his 65 year old retired former social worker existence in the amalgamated ghetto life of New Jersey -- try Patterson on the north, Camden on the south, and Trenton and Hoboken in between, some 35 times smaller than the state of Texas with a third the population of Texas -- as having a great need to make every non-socialist, non-Marxist, non-liberal dim's life as misserable as he can with his mental masturbation gymnastics. At least that is what this little -- he takes great pride in announcing his body mass as an ultra light 23 [ it's even heavier without its brain dead lack of substance] -- vegetarian atheist says is his intent in his Profile listed in the caption on One Political Plaza. As long as this little twerp can stay hidden in his turnip patch ghetto behind his computer in his garden state of New Jersey, he can vehemently run his brain dead socialist mouth with impunity, notwithstanding his ultra light 23 body mass. Strong message to follow.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

You're a regular ideologue liberal retired social worker that can't deductively reason to solutions to problems as reasonably suggested by true facts. So when you get called out on the facts, you either falsely allege facts, or you resort to ad hominem attacks. Well if that is how you want to partake of reasoned discourse, get use to the technique you little twerp, as it will be coming back at you. Moreover, I'm not angry, I'm just looking forward to the fun of it. I will take great pleasure in scalding your sorry arse. Take your best shot.

lightfoot

I think Chardo would like to live in a place like N Korea where all the laws and regulations come from executive power rather than a constitutionally pledged government..Dont worry Chardo here in America even socialist ramblers like you are allowed to speak your peice..Bear in mind Chardo you are living in a free country that is currently ridding itself of executive order ..As we speak there are numerous efforts that are very possibly going to become law that will put a stop to this socialist madness..Executive order is a privelage not a right..Executive order was not written into law to be used as a tool to destroy the very country that it governs..So if we are not socialist enough for you Chardo why dont you call your congressman and tell him..Or better yet move to N. KOREA..You will love it there

Yankee Clipper

{Good Afternoon Yankee.}



On charitable contributions, yes I’m aware of that but I’m not sure what your point is since most conservatives like to say that the wealthy are the most generous. Actually I guess that we don’t really know what demographic in old Miss is doing the giving. Most conservatives will say consevatives are more charitable most of the time. My inlaws from Mississippi tell me that most of the population both black and white come to each other's aid particularly in a time of crisis. Being that Mississippi is not a rich state most there seem to give what they can afford financially and give physical assistance if needed too. I’m sure that they have some folks who are well off. There always are no matter where you are at.

Now are you aware that there is a correlation between charitable giving and religion, with the lions share going to religious organizations?

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/generous-states-charities-lean-republican/story?id=1703024...

Most of the churches are small, not to say there are not some very large ones in metro areas, but most are small and not overly prosperous.

And, are you aware of the fact that Mississippi is #1 among states that rely heavily on food stamps. Yes, I am aware of that fact. A lot of that is caused by pre sixties prejudices that dominated the south for so many years. I went to college at Delta State University, Cleveland, Ms, right smack in the middle of the poorest part of the state for both blacks and whiles alike. I can tell you in my past visits over the years even less racial friction exist in that area now. I am not saying it don't exist, I'm saying to a lessor extent than I see in the Chicago area or maybe even in your area, New Jersey.

So lets connect some dots and see where this goes, because I think that it raises more questions that it answers. With all that charity, why all of those food stamps. Mississippi has always been an agricultural state and after WWII farming became mechanized and the large primarily black labor force was not needed. Large numbers of blacks could not read or write and with an illiterate work force manufacturing largely has not come there until recently. Also there are large numbers of whites (may outnumber the blacks) on government assistance too, from what I understand. Most of them are former share croppers who couldn't make it. And by the way you failed to connect the dots.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/13/10-states-with-the-greatest-food-stamps_n_860233...

Well, maybe they’re just that poor that charity is not enough to offset the need for government assistance which would kind of blow a hole in the Republican talking point charity can suffice for government aide. When I was in college, I believe the population of MS was about 3.5 million and of that only about 80,000 paid taxes. That is part of the food stamp assistance being needed, not enough taxpayers, translated, no jobs. Remember there are few jobs available in MS. Those numbers most likely have changed for the better, but I bet they are still not good. Or, maybe there’s something else going on here….how much of that money winds up in Uganda fighting gay rights? How much goes to televangelists and right wing super PAC? ….Just some thoughtsCome on Che, even for for you that was cheap. Completely uncalled for.

Richard "The Chardo" Lee

Liberty

You're right here. It does make me sound stupid when I point out the obvious...and for that...you have my apologies sir.

God Bless the United States and the Tea Party

Liberty

Couldn't agree more...good post sir!

:thumbup:

Liberty

Well said sir....

:thumbup:

Yankee Clipper

You're a regular ideologue liberal retired social worker that can't deductively reason to solutions to problems as reasonably suggested by true facts. I think CrazyHorse nailed Che with that one.

Yankee Clipper

The Progressive Patriot

[quote=Liberty]These are definitely some the better provisions of the bill but the mass majority of it is not going to solve a lot of the issues with health care in the US in fact, it will make it worse and more intrusive into your personal privacy which violates the Constitution. Regardless, the way this law was passed was disgraceful and I for one cannot accept it due to this fact. Our own representatives who work for us, the people, did not even read the bill and still passed it into law based on intimidation and party lines...this sir, no matter what party you belong to, should offend you to your American core....it is wrong!

{ You’ll recall that this discussion was originally about Republicanism vs. democracy but you have now chosen to abandon that. Why is that ? Perhaps you want to invoke "democracy" when convenient. You’ll also recall from that exchange that Our Constitutional Republic is one dedicated to "liberty and justice for all." Minority individual rights are the priority. Congress did what was right for a minority, people without health care.

Regarding its passage, that’s your take on the way it went down. If they didn’t read it it’s their problem. I’ll tell you what I’m offended by. I’m offended by the fact that we have millions of uninsured people. The only western industrialized nation that lets people die because health care has been treated as a privilege and not a right. I’m offended that the health insurers and the drug makers are still making big bucks and calling the shot. Yes the system still has problems and that’s the reason why. Unconstitutional ?? I recall that the supreme court said otherwise.}

[Liberty Quote]I would disagree with you here. Your talking about bringing down the majority of hard working Americans to pay for people who cannot afford healthcare for a multitude of reasons (i.e. illegal status in the country, parasites to society or people who smoked or drank themselves to death) and now they want me to pay for their healthcare...WRONG! Please stop looking to blame or tax everyone else to push your communist agenda. Please remember that the only things that you have the right to is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Do you understand what personal accountability is? If I drink, smoke or eat myself into diabetes, I do not expect everyone else to pay for my mistakes...period. This is the problem with liberals, it's always someone's else's fault or responsibility. Please don't try and tell me that I don't have a heart...I do but I also have a logical side that understands that you cannot offer this to everyone without bankrupting the whole country and bringing everyone else's health care back to the dark ages. You're right, there is a lot of misinformation going around, and you need to read more into the destructive nature of this bill sir.

{. So you think that the only people who stand to benefit from Obama care are the parasites, undocumented immigrants, and people who don’t take care of themselves? Really.? You deny that there are many hard working, responsible who can’t afford health care. Can you possibly be that far out of touch with reality? And of course you’ve adapted the right wing talking point about having to pay for others care. A few things about that. First of all, who do you think has been paying for sick people who have to go to the ER when they don’t have insurance. YOU AND ME! And don’t forget loss of productivity when people get sicker than they ever had to be, and that loss of productivity means loss of tax revenues and increased cost of caring for those people, including disability payments. And that’s a who lot more costly to tax payers than whatever Obama Care will cost.

Let's just cut through the Obamacare hysteria. This debate is about Insurance. That’s all it is really about. Do you have a basic concept of how insurance works? Do you have health insurance that you pay into? Do you have auto or homeowner’s insurance? I’ve got news for you, you’re already paying for other peoples bad health, bad choices, bad driving or just bad luck. With healthcare, Obama Care does not change that….it was always about insurance. The only difference is that it widens the pool of those covered. And yes, there is a cost and we will have to carry some of them, but no matter how you cut it, we, as a society pay for sick people, one way or another. Having a country a sick people will bankrupt us a lot faster than Obama care will, both morally and financially. Willard Mitt Romney said, several years ago before he flipped on the issue, that to allow people to not have insurance, and relying on the ER to treat uninsured people is unacceptable because they are not taking responsibility, that THAT is socialism. Lastly, your reference to “my communist agenda” is the height of stupidity. }

[Liberty Quot]This statement is so ignorant, I'm not sure where to start...how about California and Texas? Which one do you think is doing better...I told you the answer in one of my other posts but just in case you forgot...it's Texas. Now do you know why? Come on you can do it....lower taxes! Now please explain to me how raising everyone's taxes, not just the rich, is going to solve anything but put us further into recession? I'll take Reagan or Bush any day over a fraudulent president who spent two million dollars sealing his records. What is he hiding? We all know what he is hiding...he is an imposter because it's a well known fact that politicians always hide good news about themselves....LOL!

{ You are brain washed! You might want to drop the talking points and start thinking. My the Gods and Goddesses bless you. mother earth and all of the creatures upon her, great and small}

grazeem Loc: Arizona

Don't worry about "Liberty" Chardo.

He's probabily one of those retired milataty guys, that has been on the government tit all his life, and still is.

Both for retirement and health care. He has his, the hell with everyone else.

The Progressive Patriot

Not hardly worried bro....if he can't understand this, he's not capable of understanding anything. Thanks for your support !

:-P

The Progressive Patriot

Well commrad, I can't compete with your knowledge of Mississippi, that's for sure. Still don't know what it has to do w/anything though

The Progressive Patriot

Congressman: Let’s Just Eliminate Useful Information Altogether

Tea Party Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) has proposed a bill that would end the government's ability to provide any of the major economic indices, including reliable unemployment or GDP figures.


http://www.thedailydolt.com/2013/05/01/south-carolina-congressman-lets-just-eliminate-useful-statistics-altogether/