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Republicans Finally Admit Planned Parenthood Did Nothing Wrong, Investigation Was A Sham
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Oct 18, 2015 22:25:11   #
Yankee Clipper
 
moldyoldy wrote:
They did nothing wrong but they have to bow down to idiots who want their pound of flesh even if there is no guilt.
Hey moldy dip shit! I twice sent you a most fair article which stated and admitted the tape were presented put together not perhaps exactly in the same order they were filmed, but what was said about selling body parts was not altered or changed, that was PP's representatives words verbatim ( not altered). Also the firm hired to audit the tapes may have done a proper job, but they were not independent from pp who was footing the bill. They were a left leaning rent an expert company. Go back a few pages and find my article and actually read it with an open mind and you mind be wondering who's really bull shitting you. Evidentially you lean so far left you are going insane.

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Oct 18, 2015 23:25:53   #
moldyoldy
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
Hey moldy dip shit! I twice sent you a most fair article which stated and admitted the tape were presented put together not perhaps exactly in the same order they were filmed, but what was said about selling body parts was not altered or changed, that was PP's representatives words verbatim ( not altered). Also the firm hired to audit the tapes may have done a proper job, but they were not independent from pp who was footing the bill. They were a left leaning rent an expert company. Go back a few pages and find my article and actually read it with an open mind and you mind be wondering who's really bull shitting you. Evidentially you lean so far left you are going insane.
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I went back 6 pages and did not see anything from you. I expect that you are talking about the fees for handling of fetal tissue used in research. Calling that selling body parts.

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Oct 18, 2015 23:39:25   #
Yankee Clipper
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I went back 6 pages and did not see anything from you. I expect that you are talking about the fees for handling of fetal tissue used in research. Calling that selling body parts.


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Oct 19, 2015 00:28:41   #
moldyoldy
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
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I read that BS before, nothing new, just your misinformed interpretation of the facts.

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Oct 19, 2015 00:30:29   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I read that BS before, nothing new, just your misinformed interpretation of the facts.


Those baby body parts have a Union Rep ???????????

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Oct 19, 2015 12:44:36   #
Yankee Clipper
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I read that BS before, nothing new, just your misinformed interpretation of the facts.


Almost all other sites cited are far extreme leftist sites that quote the same source and cannot be trusted. At least this site gave both sides of the issue even though it leaned to the right somewhat.

The thing I don't understand, especially if you are who is pictured as your avatar, is why would you support and defend an organization whose founder wanted to eliminate your race in this country? That is well documented. See links:

http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/

http://www.nationalblackprolifeunion.com/Margaret-Sanger-and-The-Negro-Project.html

http://liveaction.org/research/margaret-sanger-quotes-history-and-biography

That should be enough for you.

Me, I see the issue as killing a fetus is the same as killing a baby and killing a baby is murder plain and simple. Why would you defend such actions. I can see allowing some exceptions for abortion, but only in the cases of rape, incest, or mother welfare.

Tell me and you can do it by private message if you chose, what has the Marxist/democrat party done for your race besides use it for votes to get political power?

Me personally, I want all people of all races to do well in our country because then everyone does well except those who chose not to and we'll always have some of them. That said, neither of us has an obligation to help anyone except those who have not way of helping themselves due to injuries or disease.

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Oct 19, 2015 13:00:35   #
moldyoldy
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
Almost all other sites cited are far extreme leftist sites that quote the same source and cannot be trusted. At least this site gave both sides of the issue even though it leaned to the right somewhat.

The thing I don't understand, especially if you are who is pictured as your avatar, is why would you support and defend an organization whose founder wanted to eliminate your race in this country? That is well documented. See links:

http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/

http://www.nationalblackprolifeunion.com/Margaret-Sanger-and-The-Negro-Project.html

http://liveaction.org/research/margaret-sanger-quotes-history-and-biography

That should be enough for you.

Me, I see the issue as killing a fetus is the same as killing a baby and killing a baby is murder plain and simple. Why would you defend such actions. I can see allowing some exceptions for abortion, but only in the cases of rape, incest, or mother welfare.

Tell me and you can do it by private message if you chose, what has the Marxist/democrat party done for your race besides use it for votes to get political power?

Me personally, I want all people of all races to do well in our country because then everyone does well except those who chose not to and we'll always have some of them. That said, neither of us has an obligation to help anyone except those who have not way of helping themselves due to injuries or disease.
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Sanger had to comply with the beliefs being espoused at the time. As for political parties, conservatives have a hadr right agenda driven by hatred, intolerance, fundamentalism,and ignorance. Though some belong in one of these camps and not the other, they vote the same even when it hurts them. As a liberal I do not want to control your life. You can believe as you like, but give others the same rights to live free and unmolested, with equal access. By the way that blob, or fetus takes a few months to become anything.

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Oct 19, 2015 13:17:00   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Sanger had to comply with the beliefs being espoused at the time. As for political parties, conservatives have a hadr right agenda driven by hatred, intolerance, fundamentalism,and ignorance. Though some belong in one of these camps and not the other, they vote the same even when it hurts them. As a liberal I do not want to control your life. You can believe as you like, but give others the same rights to live free and unmolested, with equal access. By the way that blob, or fetus takes a few months to become anything.
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As long as you hold the view that those with different views are driven by hatred, intolerance, and ignorance you will have a closed mind and your own level of ignorance. If you can ever accept the possibility that others can have a different opinion of what is and is not for the common good you may learn something.

As a liberal you surely want to control others - just in ways that you think are good. How one can suggest they are for more government while also suggesting they want less control over the individual I struggle to understand.

As to that blob or fetus taking months to become anything - can't one say that a day old human also takes months before they become anything? How about a blob one day away from being born - has it yet become anything? How about a month before birth, two months, ....? Doesn't one need to define what they mean by "anything" when making such a statement?

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Oct 19, 2015 13:53:58   #
moldyoldy
 
Dave wrote:
As long as you hold the view that those with different views are driven by hatred, intolerance, and ignorance you will have a closed mind and your own level of ignorance. If you can ever accept the possibility that others can have a different opinion of what is and is not for the common good you may learn something.

As a liberal you surely want to control others - just in ways that you think are good. How one can suggest they are for more government while also suggesting they want less control over the individual I struggle to understand.

As to that blob or fetus taking months to become anything - can't one say that a day old human also takes months before they become anything? How about a blob one day away from being born - has it yet become anything? How about a month before birth, two months, ....? Doesn't one need to define what they mean by "anything" when making such a statement?
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Do you think that you should have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body, or tell a person who to love. The gov. regulations meant to protect us have been eroded by the GOP leading to financial ruin for many, less food inspectors to protect our health. GMO foods for us, that the rest of the world rejects. We get knee jerk reactions from the right just because.

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Oct 19, 2015 14:10:42   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Do you think that you should have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body, or tell a person who to love. The gov. regulations meant to protect us have been eroded by the GOP leading to financial ruin for many, less food inspectors to protect our health. GMO foods for us, that the rest of the world rejects. We get knee jerk reactions from the right just because.


I do not think I have a right to tell a woman anything, but I do have a right to have a say in something that a woman and I took part in making. If you don't think I have a right in such an instance, do you think I have a responsibility?

I do not think I have a right to tell anyone who to love, but I also think I don't have a right to tell someone they must do something for someone who loves someone else. Do you think I should have to "honor" to "participate" in a ceremony regarding a person's love of another person?

What government regulation is it that you suggest was intended to protect us but Republicans eroded and lead us to financial ruin? Are we financially ruined?

Where did you see a reduction in food inspectors causing health problems?

What GMO foods are you required to eat that have been rejected by every other country? What evidence have you that such food endangers anyone's health?

You last assertion, about knee jerk reactions is very interesting - you display a host of knee jerk reactions from the left.

Now, a question for you - do you think you have a right to demand of a person that they be compelled to work for the benefits of others?

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Oct 19, 2015 14:54:13   #
Yankee Clipper
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Sanger had to comply with the beliefs being espoused at the time. Sanger did not have to comply with anything other than her beliefs and she tended to be a radical leftist as far as I can tell. As for political parties, conservatives have a hadr right agenda driven by hatred, intolerance, fundamentalism,and ignorance. You are not necessarily correct there, I am a Constitutional conservative and my beliefs have nothing to do with anything but what God and and Constitution dictate. Out forefathers set up a pretty good system of government which if followed pretty much gives everyone life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, it however does not guarantee the out come. Early on Socialist and later Marxist/democrats and now even some Rino republicans have been eroding our Constitution pretty much every since it was adopted. However it was 20th century presidents starting with Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and now Obama in the 21 century who have eroded it the most. And there have been left leaning republican presidents mixed in also. You need to do some reading on what socialism, Marxism, Communism, progressivism has done for those it was supposed to help or save. I would suggest you start with The Law by Frederic Bastiat, you may find that interesting. Studying further you will find that many of the worlds great philosophers wrote about the evils of socialism centuries ago.Though some belong in one of these camps and not the other, they vote the same even when it hurts them. As a liberal I do not want to control your life. All Marxist social liberals want to control our lives, your type doesn't care how many bodies it takes to achieve your goals. It's all about power. You can believe as you like, but give others the same rights to live free and unmolested, with equal access. By the way that blob, or fetus takes a few months to become anything. If that "blob" eventually becomes a baby then as soon and the egg and the sperm come together to make that "blob" then the life of a new human has been created whether you like it or not. Killing it is murder!!!
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Oct 19, 2015 15:00:28   #
Yankee Clipper
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Do you think that you should have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body, or tell a person who to love. The gov. regulations meant to protect us have been eroded by the GOP leading to financial ruin for many, less food inspectors to protect our health. GMO foods for us, that the rest of the world rejects. We get knee jerk reactions from the right just because.


Talk about knee jerk reaction, the left is foaming at the mouth trying to protect Hillary "the lying bitch" from going to prison for violating the security laws.

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Oct 19, 2015 15:04:47   #
moldyoldy
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
Talk about knee jerk reaction, the left is foaming at the mouth trying to protect Hillary "the lying bitch" from going to prison for violating the security laws.


Another case of GOP faked freak out. There is no crime, except the bengazi pretend investigation.

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Oct 19, 2015 15:54:44   #
Yankee Clipper
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Another case of GOP faked freak out. There is no crime, except the bengazi pretend investigation.


As I sugested you need to do some reading from other sources on the other side of your issues. In fact, the Declaration of Independence list many of the issues we are having today as the reasons the colonies were breaking away from Britain. You can't know too much and wisdom will give you a solid plataform from which you can expouse your views and possibly back them up.

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Oct 19, 2015 16:15:36   #
solarkin
 
Dave wrote:
I suspect you don't see the argument over cost. If PP was selling their "product" at cost there would be no need to negotiate - they'd calculate cost and establish that as price.


Therefore, any negotiation infers profit.

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