payne1000

Actually he's a Zionist troll. He was formerly employed by Zionist David Horowitz making Zionist propaganda videos, according to eagleye.

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On the one hand, it is good to put this out here. On the other, no one is going to believe it anyway. Some people WILLINGLY blind themselves to the truth and there is nothing anyone can do about it. There is almost surely a few here who are government agents whose job it is to create mayhem, and make fun of anyone who knows the truth. If so, they are even worse idiots because they are going to have to pay the price, someday, by higher powers, for the extreme harm they are doing to the human race. But that is another story.

There is a secret government that rules the world, but some of the idiots here will never believe that because they are too shallow in their thinking to even entertain such an idea. It is one thing to be ignorant. It is another to be WILLINGLY ignorant, because for that, one will have to answer eventually to a higher power, in some way or another. I am not talking about Christian doctrine of going to hell or any such thing here.

A lot of the arguments of the leftists, socialists, or whatever you want to call them, are like a school child trying to lecture a theoretical physicist. It is ludicrous, but the child will never recognize it. So, in a way, it is futile to try to educate anyone here. They are hooked on their own drama, and cannot see beyond themselves.

The world is going to go the way it goes and there is nothing we can do about it. That doesn't mean there is no hope. There is nothing the progressives and the liberals can do about it either. There are those who purposely put out the ridiculous crap that all is right in our world, in order to deceive the common man, and there are those who are willingly deceived. Either way, it is not good. And we now have a world of ignorance. It will bring the world down in disharmony, but evolution always follows involution and vice versa. It is universal law. When it comes to the point where the lies are no longer needed and power belongs totally to the elite, those who survive will see the truth, though then, for them, it will be too late. But, I suppose, that is as it should be.

I don't know whether I will discuss this particular subject anymore. Too many people are caught in their delusions and will not possibly change their minds. Though I suppose it is good the information gets out here.

payne1000

A lot of intelligent people have been fooled by the liars on Capitol Hill and the mainstream media which distributes their lies. Unfortunately most members on this forum are not as aware as you are about how the world works.

I agree with you on most of what you have said but I firmly believe those who know the truth must work hard to get the truth out.
I could spend time on forums with a more sophisticated membership but I would just be preaching to the choir on those venues. There are nasty trolls on all forums. Keeping the truth from reaching the masses is a full time job for them.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Well that sums it up!
Nothing to add.


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eagleye13 Loc: Fl

The "plane" did not even hit the pentagon straight on (at 90 degrees/perpendicular). The "plane" would have cartwheeled along the face of the building. That is simple physics.

payne1000

In airliner crashes the tail section usually breaks off and mostly stays together. The tail section on a 757 is about three stories tall. It certainly didn't go into that one story hole. Where was it?

JMHO Loc: Utah

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JMHO Loc: Utah

Can't debate B.S., pal...and that is what this is...pure B.S..

JMHO Loc: Utah

How about we meet, and you try and give me a diaper...huh? Game? Just let me know, pal.

JMHO Loc: Utah

I see you are still sticking to your idiotic, stupid, irrational, and fabricated truther B.S.! You don't belong around honest people, or anybody...you should be institutionalized, being as ignorant as you are, pal. Your stupidity is unbelievable.

Obvious???? It is only obvious to morons who spend more time on another planet than earth! Sheeessshhh...get a brain!

You are pathetic, pal...pathetically stupid.

JMHO Loc: Utah

And, you're a Jew hating POS! Yep, I used to work for Horowitz, many years ago...a man you're not qualified to carry his coffee cup.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

LOL;
My daddy can beat up your daddy!!!!!
You squirrel.

payne1000

Here are some quotes from famous Jews who I admire.

Notice that Horowitz is not among them.

Sigmund Freud:

"I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives."

Albert Einstein:

"The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad."

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

"The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse."

Primo Levi, writer and Auschwitz survivor:

"Everyone has their Jews. For the Israelis they are the Palestinians."

Marek Edelman, last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw uprising:

Edelman wrote a letter in support of the Palestine resistance, comparing them to ZOB, the Jewish fighters in Warsaw. He opened with, "Commanders of the Palestine military, paramilitary and partisan operations - to all the soldiers of the Palestine fighting organisations."

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

"I find myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist ... I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind. It is delightful to have the human heritage exist in a thousand varieties, for it makes for greater interest, but as soon as one variety is thought to be more important than another, the groundwork is laid for destroying them all."

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

"The trouble is that Zionism has often thought and said that the evil of antisemitism was necessary for the good of the Jewish people. In the words of a well-known Zionist in a letter to me discussing the original Zionist argumentation: 'The antisemites want to get rid of the Jews, the Jewish State wants to receive them, a perfect match.' "

I.F. Stone, US journalist:

"Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist."

Noam Chomsky:

"In the Occupied Territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by "apartheid" you mean South African-style apartheid. What's happening in the Occupied Territories is much worse."

Gabriel Kolko, one of the leading historians on modern warfare:

"The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state's creation."

Miriam Margolyes, actor:

"The black South Africans asked for our support and now it's the Palestinians who are asking for our support. I hate what Israel is doing over there to the Palestinians. I think that boycotting is a very active and non-violent way of protesting."

Uri Avnery, ex-Israeli army officer:

Avnery wrote that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints."

Henry Siegman, Rabbi and director of the U.S./Middle East Project:

"Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East' to the only apartheid regime in the Western world."

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

"The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake … the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself."

Roseanne Barr, US comedian, writer, director, presidential candidate:

"I am sick of Israel and I am sick of Zionists. They are propped up by evangelical Christians who cannot wait for the Arabs to kill them so that their genocidal war god whom they misname Jesus can come back."

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun Magazine:

"If a Jew today goes into any synagogue in the U.S. or around the world and says, 'I don't believe in God or Torah and I don't follow the commandments,' most will still welcome you in and urge you to become involved. But say, 'I don't support the State of Israel,' and you are likely to be labeled a 'self-hating Jew' or anti-Semite, scorned and dismissed."

Richard Falk, the former UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories:

Falk has called Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories "a crime against humanity." Falk also has compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Falk has said, "I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world."

payne1000

Post your address and I'll meet with you.

JMHO Loc: Utah

No Horowitz? Just shows that in fact you are a Jew hater and a moron.