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Sep 17, 2015 13:09:29   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Giving credit to who wrote what you cut and paste is a matter of honesty--a virtue you seem to disdain.
Yeah, you're one to talk about honesty.

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Sep 17, 2015 13:16:54   #
payne1000
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Why do GOP OPP bloggers concern themselves about scandals, propanganda, misinformation, phony scientific theories, but say nothing about solutions to debt, deficit, middle class wages, jobs bills, immigration reform, Tax Reform, the GOP has had control of congress now for 8 months and have no solutions. Not one bill proposed to address real people problems. But they sure have theories as to how the WTC collapsed utilizing scientific evidence. But they totally ignore scientific evidence on climate change.

You listen to the debate all this clown car talks about is what people look like and emails. Somebody on the clown car needs to start talking about something other than fabricated scandals and talk a problems facing real people. And stop advancing there agenda of corporate tax breaks, deregulation, and there main agenda of war.

Somebody please show me one bill sponsored by the GOP on comprehensive immigration reform. All we hear is the Mexicans are taking over our country there nothing but drug dealers, rapist but nothing to address the problem other than to build a great big Fence.

They have control but the GOP does nothing
Why do GOP OPP bloggers concern themselves about s... (show quote)


I'm not a GOP member. I'm not a member of their sister organization, the Dems, either.

What I'm most interested in is exposing the criminal cabal which controls both parties, planned and executed 9/11, and is responsible for the absence of solutions to the problems you list.

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Sep 17, 2015 13:19:27   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, you're one to talk about honesty.


I don't plagarize. My sources are well documented and haven't been successfully rebutted by anyone on this forum.
Insults are not rebuttal.

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Sep 17, 2015 13:33:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
I don't plagarize. My sources are well documented and haven't been successfully rebutted by anyone on this forum.
Insults are not rebuttal.
Well, geez, it is no mystery why you would claim that none of your "sources" have been rebutted. The entire convoluted 9/11 conspiracy movement is one Huge Lie.

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Sep 17, 2015 13:51:38   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Well, geez, it is no mystery why you would claim that none of your "sources" have been rebutted. The entire convoluted 9/11 conspiracy movement is one Huge Lie.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 17, 2015 14:46:41   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Well, geez, it is no mystery why you would claim that none of your "sources" have been rebutted. The entire convoluted 9/11 conspiracy movement is one Huge Lie.


Lies can easily be rebutted.
Truth cannot.

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Sep 17, 2015 14:48:03   #
payne1000
 
beammeupscotty wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


You're not the brightest bulb around, are you, scotty?

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Sep 17, 2015 15:03:24   #
Jean Deaux
 
Blade Runner: First my compliments. A response with no profanity and using reason are really welcome. Kudos on a well done. I must however, take exception to some of your arguments.

You state that in spite of video proofs, no truths have been tested. I don't understand. To me, the truth rests in the wreckage of the building, collapsed on the ground. I see that as corroborating the videos of the take down. Right or did I miss something? The proof of the pudding is the eating.

I must admit there is conflicting data and contradictory evidence but I believe that is inevitable in view of the enormity of the event. Also, much effort has been made to cloud the events, to the detriment of the public and truth. The real NWO perpetrators should be brought to justice along with their local political stooges, but I think you will agree with me that that will probably never happen. Way too many BIG names and reputations on the line.

I submit there is no experiential relevance since there has never been a similar incident. What could be relevant to these collapses? There have, of course, been other demolitions destroying buildings, but nothing on the scale of the destruction involved here.

As you know, empirical adequacy is based on practical experience without reference to scientific principle. We certainly had the practical experience and in view of the intensive scientific analysis of the circumstances, I don't believe this rings true. Experts in numerous fields have explained most of the anomalies in terms of the mininuke
explosions and their results. At least from what I read. I suspect you disagree with that appraisal and that is fair enough. You, no doubt, have your own references.

Lastly, I fail to see where logical consistency plays a part. That, I believe, is basic to what "facts" one brings into play. To me it is true, but that is based on my research into the event, and the authors and their references on the topic. You may have read others who come to different conclusions and that, no doubt, answer your requirements for logic. I believe we can agree to disagree.

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Sep 17, 2015 15:17:05   #
Airforceone
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
trsdsnest' Why were each of the survivors families granted a million bucks apiece if they agreed not to challenge the gov't? Really chapped my hide; a vet killed in combat used to have $10,000 in compensation and he is out risking his neck for us. These victims came to work, settled down at a desk and were busy making a living when Blotto; end of the line. What did they do to deserve the difference in payments. They did not put themselves in the way of danger trying to protect their country or our way of life. Just went to work and got a million dollar settlement. Something VERY fishy the way I see it.
trsdsnest' Why were each of the survivors familie... (show quote)


Where did you read that BS agreed not to challenge what . So your saying they were paid to keep there mounth shut and you believe that. This is why the right wing lives in a world of make believe.

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Sep 17, 2015 15:35:33   #
Jean Deaux
 
turdnest: We don't need comprehensive immigration reform. That is a rumor created by the democrats in an ill thought out attempt at gaining more votes on top of the other scams they use and falsely elevating the hopes of the illegal (what part of illegal don't you understand?) wannabes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with our immigration policies: they have worked ever since the founding of our Republic. Learn our language, have a job waiting, have no diseases, get a sponsor to show you around and explain our ways, etc. Suddenly, that is too burdensome for the newly impatient and they want immediate access. They bring ignorance, disease, crime, and constant demands for the good life our ancestors worked and sweated for as well as defended in our military. Taking jobs from our own unemployed seems to be fair play. The devil you say!

Our ancestors contributed! The current bottom feeders don't want anything but immediate money, medical care, educational services, welfare, etc and more than a few are rapists, murderers, thieves, drug dealers, you name it. They disrespect our flag, our police, and our way of life. Frankly, I don't owe them a damn thing starting with sympathy and certainly none of my tax money used to buy their votes. Build a fence, enforce it and then vomit the 12 or 13 million back across the border. How they get back to their country of origin is their problem, not ours. We owe them nothing and the countries from which they came should be charged for any and all benefits they received while here. Including all costs of incarceration. If they don't want to break up their families, go back home and raise those families there.

If they want to immigrate legally, welcome, as almost all Americans have traditionally been. Go to the end of the line of all those who have been waiting to enter legally. But this outburst of impatience is completely and totally illegal and must be stopped.

If you feel very strongly about it, become a sponsor and help one come in legally. Other than that, forget it: it is not their land of milk and honey to share but rather one that European Caucasians developed into the greatest country in the world through brilliance and hard work. DO you understand that???

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Sep 17, 2015 15:41:59   #
Jean Deaux
 
tdrstnest: It was common knowledge at the time of the awards but was hushed up relatively quickly. It is, after all, very hard to explain. Perhaps you have an answer or are you just quibbling? You are free to draw your own conclusions, sans ridicule.

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Sep 17, 2015 15:57:04   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
payne1000 wrote:
You're not the brightest bulb around, are you, scotty?


I've never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed.
Apparently you're not either. If you were you would know my name is not Scotty. Scotty is on the ship and I'm calling for a beam up, that makes me the captain...... or is that too hard for you to comprehend.

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Sep 17, 2015 16:00:00   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
I concur with this entire statement






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Jean Deaux wrote:
turdnest: We don't need comprehensive immigration reform. That is a rumor created by the democrats in an ill thought out attempt at gaining more votes on top of the other scams they use and falsely elevating the hopes of the illegal (what part of illegal don't you understand?) wannabes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with our immigration policies: they have worked ever since the founding of our Republic. Learn our language, have a job waiting, have no diseases, get a sponsor to show you around and explain our ways, etc. Suddenly, that is too burdensome for the newly impatient and they want immediate access. They bring ignorance, disease, crime, and constant demands for the good life our ancestors worked and sweated for as well as defended in our military. Taking jobs from our own unemployed seems to be fair play. The devil you say! Our ancestors contributed! The current bottom feeders don't want anything but immediate money, medical care, educational services, welfare, etc and more than a few are rapists, murderers, thieves, drug dealers, you name it. Frankly, I don't owe them a damn thing starting with sympathy and certainly none of my tax money used to buy their votes. Build a fence, enforce it and then vomit the 12 or 13 million back across the border. How they get back to their country of origin is their problem, not ours. We owe them nothing and the countries from which they came should be charged for any and all benefits they received while here. Including all costs of incarceration. If they don't want to break up their families, go back home and raise those families there.

If they want to immigrate legally, welcome as almost all Americans have traditionally been. But this outburst of impatience is completely and totally illegal and must be stopped. If you feel very strongly about it, become a sponsor and help one come in legally. Other than that, forget it: it is not their land of milk and honey but rather one that European Caucasians developed into the greatest country in the world. Do you understand that???
turdnest: We don't need comprehensive immigration... (show quote)

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Sep 17, 2015 16:11:26   #
payne1000
 
beammeupscotty wrote:
I've never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed.
Apparently you're not either. If you were you would know my name is not Scotty. Scotty is on the ship and I'm calling for a beam up, that makes me the captain...... or is that too hard for you to comprehend.


If you'd use your real name, as I do, we'd know what to call you.

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Sep 17, 2015 16:12:23   #
Jean Deaux
 
beammeupscotty: Would you settle for corporal? Just trying to be funny. no insult intended.

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