payne1000

It's up to those of us who know the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is based on lies to alert the sleeping herd. It's a tough task but nothing else is more important.

Once you know 9/11 is a lie, then you also know:

- Everything about foreign policy reported on mainstream news is misinformation or outright lies.

-Many of the other terrorist acts blamed on Muslims are FBI-CIA-Mossad false-flag operations.

-Both political parties are in on the deception.

-Capitol Hill is controlled by a secret cabal.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Structural steel loses 50% of its strength at 1100F. The jetliners blasting through the buildings destroyed fire retardant coatings on the columns and floor trusses, exposing them to direct fire impingement. Like a giant incendiary bullet, the jetliner blew a massive hole through the building. The direct hit on the North Tower, for example, severely damaged most of the inner support columns, shattered sheet rock walls, ceilings and framing, pulverized furniture, office equipment, carpeting, clothing, drapes, exposed paper, cardboard, wood, plastic, PVC pipes, and other fuel sources.

Jet fuel exploded down through the elevator shafts all the way to the lobby where it blew out the plate glass windows and killed a good number of people. First in firefighters found burned people in the lobby. No fires of any significance were ignited below the impact zone. Firefighters has to ascend via the stairwells because the elevators were knocked out.

Those explosions you claim were planted explosives blowing debris out were actually the air trapped on each floor blowing out like a stomped on balloon.

The looney tunes conspiracy you are pushing defies all logic, science, and common sense. The entire convoluted mess you promote is impossibly complex and loaded with contradictions. The organization, training, logistics, communications, subterfuge, deceptions, timing, and the thousands of agencies, corporations, individuals, groups, and authorities necessary to pull off such a massive conspiracy is beyond any credible possibility. In a word, you "troofers" are freaking insane.

emarine

And nuts come here on OPP with... were Nukes used in the destruction of the WTC... The only reason you post this crap is for Rebuttal... and you get it.... what's next the Alien death ray theory?...

gynojunkie

Yes. We are here talking about the collapses; where were the defensive fighter jets for the N.E. corridor? They were out over the Atlantic--directed there for "maneuvers" that kept them away from Manhattan Island for many critical hours.

WTF?

emarine

Exactly....http://911encyclopedia.com/wiki/index.php/World_Trade_Center_Seismic_Signal

payne1000

BD, you're another who can't understand that if firefighters reached the 78th floor in less than an hour, there could not have been any serious fires below where the plane hit the South Tower. If you had a brain you would deduce from that fact that the steel in those 78 floors was not weakened.

If you don't think a massive number of people can be organized and be able to keep a secret, do some research on the Manhattan Project.

payne1000

Did you watch the Barry Jennings video? His testimony totally contradicts the NIST "office fires" lies. Too bad Barry had to die for being honest.

gynojunkie

Astonishing that there are so many who will automatically reject anything other than the FedGov version of these virtually inexplicable events.

So many are willing to accept physically improbable/impossible explanations for what they have witnessed. Such automatic belief in a government that has never told the truth about much of anything--and hides everything it can under the guises of "national security" and "need to know only"--is incomprehensible to me.

Thousands of airline pilots with hundreds of millions of miles of collective experience in large jetliners have signed statements that they lacked the skills to have been able to pilot those planes into the towers. But no one listens to them (I guess that they don't know what they are doing! Such an unintelligent bunch, those senior airline pilots. What do they know, anyway, right)?

Scoop Henderson Loc: The Rez, (I am from Egypt)

The Silent Majority is now tuning in.
In Mid-August a lumber sales guy told me about W54 nukes. Information on them is now posted here.

payne1000

Rejecting the truth is one thing. Making up deliberate lies to defend the government lies is another.
I'm convinced that many of those on this thread who show up on every thread about 9/11 are trolls. emarine and blade runner lead the pack.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Well, dang. If you can't comprehend simple English in a short forum post, how the hell can anything you post be credible? Full of sh!t doesn't even come close to defining your idiocy. That's not an insult, it's a fact.

You have failed completely to understand the chemistry and physics of mass, weight, kinetic energy, temperature, pressure, thermodynamics, seismology, gravity, metallurgy, structural engineering, architecture--not to mention firefighting and rescue operations. Yours is an entirely politically driven agenda that has nothing to do with the reality of 9/11.

FYI: Being a military history buff all my life, I am well read on the Manhattan Project. One of the best books on the subject is "The Making of the Atomic Bomb", by Richard Rhodes. Extraordinary historical treatise. This work includes technical and scientific data on the processes, construction, and detonation of nuclear devices (atomic bombs) Even a nuclear weapon the size of a golf ball would generate temperatures and radiation far above anything occurring on 9/11.

Any attempt to compare the Manhattan Project with the attacks on 9/11 is a total disconnect. Shame on you.

Scoop Henderson Loc: The Rez, (I am from Egypt)

-Did you take the FE test? My memory of it is mostly a blur these days but I retained enough to know that the molten metal has not been addressed by the Govermin.
-You should search W54 nuke.

payne1000

There are over 2,000 professional Engineers and Architects who contradict everything you have posted on this thread. So it appears you are the one who is "full of shit."
There are many thousands more high-level professionals who agree with me.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

http://911scholars.org/

http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/

http://web.archive.org/web/20110911032318/firefightersfor911truth.org/

http://mp911truth.org/

http://www.mo911truth.org/

http://www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org/

http://www.whodidit.org/

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

http://www.mujca.com/

By the way, you fail to mention that the massive Manhattan Project was kept secret from the public.

emarine

The seismic evidence proves that there were no nukes or large explosions during the entire 911 event sampled at between 20 and 40 times per second... there are many hours or reading the sources of scientific proof on that link, They offer the conclusion it was not a controlled demolition on 911... maybe it was nuclear termites

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

stupid like you are is incurable.