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Sep 16, 2015 09:13:39   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
payne1000 wrote:
Truth in this case is what actually happened as opposed to the lies we have been told for 14 years.


Lets try a mini nuke out...come on over, bend over, we can shove on half foot up in ya....Muslim Moe...alias PAYNE......

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Sep 16, 2015 09:23:05   #
okie don
 
" All the [ Intelligence Services] of America and Europe... knew well that the disastrous attack [ 911] hjas been planned and realized from the Mossaud"...
Former President of Italy - Francisco Cossiga

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Sep 16, 2015 09:25:44   #
payne1000
 
America Only wrote:
Lets try a mini nuke out...come on over, bend over, we can shove on half foot up in ya....Muslim Moe...alias PAYNE......


Crudity is your substitute for lack of intellect.

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Sep 16, 2015 09:43:14   #
vernon
 
payne1000 wrote:
To be more accurate, Israel has attacked us 3 times if the Lavon Affair is added to the list. The Lavon affair was when Israel hired Jews in Egypt to blow up U.S. embassy facilities in Egypt which they planned to blame on Egypt. The attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was also a false flag attack which Israel hoped to blame on Egypt. Unfortunately for Israel, they failed in their attempt to sink the ship and kill everyone aboard. The subject of this topic is the third attack on the U.S. by Israeli operatives.
To be more accurate, Israel has attacked us 3 time... (show quote)



you seem to think isreal is our enemy.now are you a nazi or just hate jews.

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Sep 16, 2015 09:45:07   #
vernon
 
payne1000 wrote:
Prove it, vernon.



no you told a lie and think i need to prove you wrong.you need to prove that it is not a lie.

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Sep 16, 2015 09:46:06   #
emarine
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
emarine: Perhaps timing played a role. If the firemen were in the elevators, obviously no fire was present. Not to say the situation didn't eventually evolve but Payne1000 has a very valid point. At the time the firemen were in the elevator, there was no fire there. Pretty elementary logic.


In reality the only time that firemen were in elevators in WTC 2 was before the plane hit... then Larry is correct... but in reality what does that matter?

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Sep 16, 2015 09:48:48   #
vernon
 
payne1000 wrote:
The airliner which hit the South Tower sliced through a corner of the Tower. The elevator core is in the center of the tower. The plane would not have penetrated the elevator shafts. Most of the fuel from Flight 175 burned up in the air outside the tower.

Firemen reached the 78th floor. That would indicate there were no serious fires below the 78th floor and it would prove that the 78 lower floors were not weakened by fire.

If those floors were not weakened by fire, how did they collapse to the ground in just over 15 seconds?
The airliner which hit the South Tower sliced thro... (show quote)


had there been fire below it would use the elevator shaft as a chimney and the firemen would not have been in it.

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Sep 16, 2015 09:50:45   #
vernon
 
payne1000 wrote:
The airliner which hit the South Tower sliced through a corner of the Tower. The elevator core is in the center of the tower. The plane would not have penetrated the elevator shafts. Most of the fuel from Flight 175 burned up in the air outside the tower.

Firemen reached the 78th floor. That would indicate there were no serious fires below the 78th floor and it would prove that the 78 lower floors were not weakened by fire.

If those floors were not weakened by fire, how did they collapse to the ground in just over 15 seconds?
The airliner which hit the South Tower sliced thro... (show quote)



the weight from above ,it was just a pancake effect.

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Sep 16, 2015 09:52:18   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
payne1000 wrote:
Crudity is your substitute for lack of intellect.


What you post, Muslim Moe...is a attack on common sense beyond the history of man kind.

Tell it as it is...each post and topic..anti Jew and pro muslim.

Give it a rest. Get a life. Oil the axles on your wheel chair.

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Sep 16, 2015 09:54:12   #
Scoop Henderson Loc: The Rez, (I am from Egypt)
 
vernon wrote:
you seem to think isreal is our enemy.now are you a nazi or just hate jews.


The enablers who transfer billions of US dollars to the Palestinian occupying Jews are an enemy.

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Sep 16, 2015 09:54:37   #
payne1000
 
vernon wrote:
you seem to think isreal is our enemy.now are you a nazi or just hate jews.


Aren't enemies defined by whether they attack the U.S. or not?

Israel: 3 attacks on the U.S.
Iran: 0 attacks on the U.S.

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Sep 16, 2015 10:01:52   #
payne1000
 
vernon wrote:
the weight from above ,it was just a pancake effect.


NIST denies the pancake theory:

"NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon."
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm

Unfortunately for NIST, their later analysis made even less sense.

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Sep 16, 2015 10:05:03   #
vernon
 
payne1000 wrote:
NIST denies the pancake theory:

"NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon."
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm

Unfortunately for NIST, their later analysis made even less sense.
NIST denies the pancake theory: br br i "NI... (show quote)



i dont care what they say LOOK at the film.

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Sep 16, 2015 10:09:31   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
In reality the only time that firemen were in elevators in WTC 2 was before the plane hit... then Larry is correct... but in reality what does that matter?


The dialogue from the firefighters' radio communications reveals that they were trying to use the elevators. This was after the plane hit the South Tower (WTC2) This was also after the firefighters had time to reach the 78th floor where the plane hit the tower. The important thing which you are attempting to confuse is that there were no significant fires in any of the lower 78 floors which would weaken the structure.

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Sep 16, 2015 10:14:17   #
vernon
 
Scoop Henderson wrote:
The enablers who transfer billions of US dollars to the Palestinian occupying Jews are an enemy.



there is no such thing as palastinians they are just arabs who by the way were killed by the thousands by syria and jordan

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