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Jun 13, 2015 12:35:47   #
payne1000
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I went to David's website and it he states (among others)...

"I am very confident that there is no currently active program to actually test or implement geoengineering outdoors.

I am not now involved in outdoor experimentation, but I am actively developing a proposal for a field experiment. This experiment will proceed only if most of the funding is public and only if it passes a comprehensive independent safety review. The experimental plans, operations and results will be publicly available and freely usable (no patenting)".


http://www.keith.seas.harvard.edu/chemtrails/
I went to David's website and it he states (among ... (show quote)



The trails airliners leave in the sky today are drastically different in size and length from the ones appearing behind airliners in the first 40 years of jet airliner travel.

How do you explain that?

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Jun 13, 2015 12:40:01   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
payne1000 wrote:
The trails airliners leave in the sky today are drastically different in size and length from the ones appearing behind airliners in the first 40 years of jet airliner travel.

How do you explain that?


How do you? Maybe the engines burn the fuel more efficiently? How many planes have you studied to even ask that question?

Go to David's website: and he suggests these.

There are a number of websites listed below that critique or debunk the chemtrail conspiracy theories. See for example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory
http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/chemtrails/
https://www.metabunk.org/forums/contrails-and-chemtrails.9/
http://contrailscience.com/
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9423

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Jun 13, 2015 12:41:29   #
9th Marines
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Waiting for an answer:
Well 9th Marines; you inadvertently exposed your intellectual limitation;
"They only thing I go to YouTube for is music"
Do you do any research? Where? From Who?
Do you rely on the MSM to get to the truth?
Do you really care about getting to the truth?

Obviously every thing on you tube is not true.
There are even planted videos to discredit the honest research.
One thing is for sure; the MSM is bought, and lies continually.
A bunch of Talking Heads, reading the same scrips on all the stations.
Waiting for an answer: br Well 9th Marines; you in... (show quote)


David Keith has worked near the interface between climate science, energy technology, and public policy for twenty five years. He took first prize in Canada's national physics prize exam, won MIT's prize for excellence in experimental physics, and was one of TIME magazine's Heroes of the Environment 2009. David divides his time between Cambridge where he is Gordon McKay Professor of Applied Physics in the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences and Professor of Public Policy in the Harvard Kennedy School; and Calgary, where he helps lead Carbon Engineering a company developing technology to capture of CO2 from ambient air.

Comments for people who believe in chemtrails. If you believe in chemtrails, ask yourself how you can be so certain that there is a grand conspiracy going on. Consider alternative, simple explanations. Remember that the Internet is filled with people who are completely sure about stuff that is just not true. Remember that while governments can keep secrets that involve only a few people they do a very bad job of keeping large-scale programs secret. The Russians, for example, knew specific details about the Manhattan project before the first nuclear weapons test, and that was a case where those involved had a clear patriotic motivation to keep the secret.

If you think that aircraft contrails “look different” or are “behaving strangely” consider that regular aircraft condensation trails (contrails) are sometimes long-lasting and the way they look can change suddenly along a flight path as aircraft fly through regions with different temperature and humidity. This is well understood and has been demonstrated by ground observation and by scientific research performed by thousands of people over many decades. Of course it's possible that something else is going on, but to prove it one would need more than simple photographs of something that looks entirely consistent with normal contrails.

Several people who were concerned about chemtrails came to talk with me and recorded a video of our conversation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory
http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/chemtrails/
https://www.metabunk.org/forums/contrails-and-chemtrails.9/
http://contrailscience.com/
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9423

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Jun 13, 2015 12:57:45   #
payne1000
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
How do you? Maybe the engines burn the fuel more efficiently? How many planes have you studied to even ask that question?

Go to David's website: and he suggests these.

There are a number of websites listed below that critique or debunk the chemtrail conspiracy theories. See for example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory
http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/chemtrails/
https://www.metabunk.org/forums/contrails-and-chemtrails.9/
http://contrailscience.com/
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9423
How do you? Maybe the engines burn the fuel more ... (show quote)


What I do know is that there is no explanation for the drastic change in contrails anywhere on the internet that I can find.

If the change could be explained logically, why is that explanation not being given since so many are asking for answers?

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Jun 13, 2015 13:04:39   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why are you never able to refute information I post?

Replying with insults indicates you have no rebuttal.

Here's a TED Talk given by David Keith in 2007 in which he explains the need for chemtrails in more detail: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkEys3PeseA


The crap you post is so out of the norm and this world that it is not worth my time to rebuke any of your bogus conspiracy crap. You obviously lack any common sense.

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Jun 13, 2015 13:25:16   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
The crap you post is so out of the norm and this world that it is not worth my time to rebuke any of your bogus conspiracy crap. You obviously lack any common sense.


Hasbarats are not allowed to debate.



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Jun 13, 2015 13:36:45   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
Hasbarats are not allowed to debate.


I don't waste my time on bullshit...like you do.

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Jun 13, 2015 14:09:08   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
I don't waste my time on bullshit...like you do.


So why are you posting bullshit on this topic?

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Jun 13, 2015 14:15:26   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
payne1000 wrote:
What I do know is that there is no explanation for the drastic change in contrails anywhere on the internet that I can find.

If the change could be explained logically, why is that explanation not being given since so many are asking for answers?


If you went to David Keith's site he states:

"If you think that aircraft contrails “look different” or are “behaving strangely” consider that regular aircraft condensation trails (contrails) are sometimes long-lasting and the way they look can change suddenly along a flight path as aircraft fly through regions with different temperature and humidity. This is well understood and has been demonstrated by ground observation and by scientific research performed by thousands of people over many decades. Of course it's possible that something else is going on, but to prove it one would need more than simple photographs of something that looks entirely consistent with normal contrails."

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Jun 13, 2015 14:21:44   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
So your an educated idiot. Now I am even less impressed.
What does your education have to do with the price of tea in China?
How many of you chemtrail deniers have heard of geoengineering scientist David Keith?

Watch David Keith try to sell spraying sulfur into the atmosphere to combat global warming:
http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/lv0hd2/david-keith

Dummy Boy wrote:
I was having issues with my internet connection.

I can look up any fundamental element you want to keep making the same point, but I would like to point out, that I am a degree'd Chemical and Mechanical Engineer. I was an Electrician's Mate on two different nuclear submarines, the first was the USS Plunger and then the USS Pintado. Navy subs use a thermal fuel matrix, that is: Uranium 235. As you might be aware, Westinghouse and GE provide and provided the reactors or reactor vessels for the Navy. The Navy uses a high pressure system that incorporates water as the moderator. A moderator stabilizes neutron bombardment of the fuel. Or keeps them captured, some escape, but don't travel very far. The reason the Navy uses Thermal fuel, is that as the moderator temperature increases more neutrons escape, thus it a self correcting. Uranium 235 is not as available in nature, and it separated from Uranium 238 via centrifuges. Hanford, Washington was an area of the country where much of the Nuclear waste is chemically and mechanically "sifted".

All of that being said, was in fact to support my belief that I do actually know what I'm talking about.

I have numerous friends, phD's, pilots, engineers and one guy that worked for the NRC that won't and don't support anyone's claims concerning chemicals being dumped on the US by planes.

But let's look at some other incidents that have occurred in the last few years. Fukishima, Numerous volcanoes erupting all over the world (fissionable uranium in the earth's crust contributes to volcanism, in addition to tectonic plate shifts). The volcanoes spew numerous gases into the atmosphere, Hydrogen Sulfide, CO2, Nitrogen Sulfide, all of which carry radioactive components into the atmosphere. In addition, the earth's crust is filled with yellow cake. Which provides uranium and it's subsequent decay products, such as strontium. One of the largest strip mining, yellow cake operations in the US is in Texas. They have been in drought, and drought produce particulates that can carry all kinds naturally occurring substances (see your aforementioned list).

All of that seems more likely, since no one has reported a high incidence of radioactive sickness from people that work for the airlines than anything else. The union and OSHA would be all over that one, don't you think?

What expertise do you bring, you're good with a keyboard and search criteria?
I was having issues with my internet connection. b... (show quote)

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Jun 13, 2015 14:23:12   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
If you went to David Keith's site he states:

"If you think that aircraft contrails “look different” or are “behaving strangely” consider that regular aircraft condensation trails (contrails) are sometimes long-lasting and the way they look can change suddenly along a flight path as aircraft fly through regions with different temperature and humidity. This is well understood and has been demonstrated by ground observation and by scientific research performed by thousands of people over many decades. Of course it's possible that something else is going on, but to prove it one would need more than simple photographs of something that looks entirely consistent with normal contrails."
If you went to David Keith's site he states: br b... (show quote)

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

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Jun 13, 2015 14:25:21   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
eagleye13 wrote:
So your an educated idiot. Now I am even less impressed.
What does your education have to do with the price of tea in China?
How many of you chemtrail deniers have heard of geoengineering scientist David Keith?


I'm not a tea buyer? And didn't study tea buying?

I am degree'd in science, I received a Bachelor of Degree in SCIENCE.

I'm not really sure how to answer the last question, but using your conspiratorial mindset, I would say about a million of us give or take a million.

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Jun 13, 2015 14:26:34   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Because he is a paid troll.
No one would expose their stupidity over and over for free.
It is soooo obvious. He never has anything tom add.
He interrupts threads for his employer.


payne1000 wrote:
So why are you posting bullshit on this topic?

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Jun 13, 2015 14:33:41   #
payne1000
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
If you went to David Keith's site he states:

"If you think that aircraft contrails “look different” or are “behaving strangely” consider that regular aircraft condensation trails (contrails) are sometimes long-lasting and the way they look can change suddenly along a flight path as aircraft fly through regions with different temperature and humidity. This is well understood and has been demonstrated by ground observation and by scientific research performed by thousands of people over many decades. Of course it's possible that something else is going on, but to prove it one would need more than simple photographs of something that looks entirely consistent with normal contrails."
If you went to David Keith's site he states: br b... (show quote)


That quote only proves that Keith is an insider working for the NWO oligarchy.

When you consider that this secretive chemtrail spraying is going on worldwide, wouldn't that indicate a one world government is already in place?

I spent 30 years as a professional photographer, shooting thousands of photographs outdoors. Not one contrail like those we see today appeared in any of my photographs. I retired from photography in 1996. That means for 40 years contrails continued to appear as they had originally in 1957 when Jet airliner travel began. Then all of a sudden the contrails change to what they are today. Keith does not explain why the drastic change took place.

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Jun 13, 2015 14:35:06   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
"I would say about a million of us give or take a million"
Well America Elected the Clintons, Bushes and Barry, so that is not much of an endorsement.
How many of you have figured out that America's politicians have sold us out to the globalist's NWO agenda?

BTW; I have a BS in Mechanical Engineering from 1972.
That has no bearing on figuring out the sell out of my Republic.
Dummy is, as Dummy is.
Dummy Boy wrote:
I'm not a tea buyer? And didn't study tea buying?

I am degree'd in science, I received a Bachelor of Degree in SCIENCE.

I'm not really sure how to answer the last question, but using your conspiratorial mindset, I would say about a million of us give or take a million.

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