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Apr 7, 2017 08:26:26   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Youjaes wrote:
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump is in way over his head on this one and needs advice. How about everyone list what they would do as Commander in Chief and maybe, just maybe, someone in the intelligence circles will see this and promote some options for the president. I'll start.

First, get some cruise missile subs near Syria. Tell CIA to get some high priority targets for them so they can hit the top level command and control centers of the Syrian military. Hopefully, we have a carrier group in the region for the subs to hide under while on station. We don't need troops or jets and stuff to put one down on Assad. If we show we can take him at a moments notice and we prove we have the nerve to do it with a couple missile hits, we've got leverage.

Second, ask CIA about assets in Syria that can encourage a military coup so we don't have to lift a finger and still get a regime change. Can we do this? Can we initiate the operation? What about Syrian military assets who are willing to entertain the assassination option? I'm sure there are military personnel who have family in Allepo who got hurt in the bombing. Also, see if assets in Syria can convince Assad to step down peacefully and back channel with Putin to give asylum if he leaves now. No matter what, we want him out.

Third, publicly put it to Putin to either take action against Assad since the Russian military is already in Syria, or to publicly step aside and let someone else deal with him. The "give asylum to Assad" works with the back away option. Either way, we want our cruise missile option if we need to send a warning message.

Fourth, encourage the UN coalition to assemble a peace keeping force to intervene in the Syrian conflict in any event.

James
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump i... (show quote)


First and foremost, I do not believe Assad launched the chemical attack. I believe strongly this was a false flag attack. Assad how absolutely NOTHING to gain by gassing kids. Think about it!

Trump wanting to show how tough he is so he jumped the shark. I believe Trump did NOT order the false flag but I highly suspect the CIA backed rebels or the CIA themselves did! You can start the investigation with McCain first!

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Apr 7, 2017 08:49:45   #
chuckybrass
 
Trump delivered right on time. Sometimes, a few words can say a lot.............

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Apr 7, 2017 09:15:54   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Youjaes wrote:
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump is in way over his head on this one and needs advice. How about everyone list what they would do as Commander in Chief and maybe, just maybe, someone in the intelligence circles will see this and promote some options for the president. I'll start.

First, get some cruise missile subs near Syria. Tell CIA to get some high priority targets for them so they can hit the top level command and control centers of the Syrian military. Hopefully, we have a carrier group in the region for the subs to hide under while on station. We don't need troops or jets and stuff to put one down on Assad. If we show we can take him at a moments notice and we prove we have the nerve to do it with a couple missile hits, we've got leverage.

Second, ask CIA about assets in Syria that can encourage a military coup so we don't have to lift a finger and still get a regime change. Can we do this? Can we initiate the operation? What about Syrian military assets who are willing to entertain the assassination option? I'm sure there are military personnel who have family in Allepo who got hurt in the bombing. Also, see if assets in Syria can convince Assad to step down peacefully and back channel with Putin to give asylum if he leaves now. No matter what, we want him out.

Third, publicly put it to Putin to either take action against Assad since the Russian military is already in Syria, or to publicly step aside and let someone else deal with him. The "give asylum to Assad" works with the back away option. Either way, we want our cruise missile option if we need to send a warning message.

Fourth, encourage the UN coalition to assemble a peace keeping force to intervene in the Syrian conflict in any event.

James
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump i... (show quote)


-----------I GOT A BETTER IDEAL I GAVE IT a lot same goes for them all -------here it is so round up assad asshole saad so get obama & hillary & now susan rice give em a nice plane ride take them over the Sahara desert ..with a parachute that will never open let them jump out & splat !!!!!!

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Apr 7, 2017 09:39:45   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Youjaes wrote:
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump is in way over his head on this one and needs advice. How about everyone list what they would do as Commander in Chief and maybe, just maybe, someone in the intelligence circles will see this and promote some options for the president. I'll start.

First, get some cruise missile subs near Syria. Tell CIA to get some high priority targets for them so they can hit the top level command and control centers of the Syrian military. Hopefully, we have a carrier group in the region for the subs to hide under while on station. We don't need troops or jets and stuff to put one down on Assad. If we show we can take him at a moments notice and we prove we have the nerve to do it with a couple missile hits, we've got leverage.

Second, ask CIA about assets in Syria that can encourage a military coup so we don't have to lift a finger and still get a regime change. Can we do this? Can we initiate the operation? What about Syrian military assets who are willing to entertain the assassination option? I'm sure there are military personnel who have family in Allepo who got hurt in the bombing. Also, see if assets in Syria can convince Assad to step down peacefully and back channel with Putin to give asylum if he leaves now. No matter what, we want him out.

Third, publicly put it to Putin to either take action against Assad since the Russian military is already in Syria, or to publicly step aside and let someone else deal with him. The "give asylum to Assad" works with the back away option. Either way, we want our cruise missile option if we need to send a warning message.

Fourth, encourage the UN coalition to assemble a peace keeping force to intervene in the Syrian conflict in any event.

James
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump i... (show quote)


Has Trump been compromised? That is the question to answer. He just went against what he campaigned on.
Who got to him?
False Flag Chemical Attack in Syria
https://youtu.be/qr_ByQH2QY0
Published on Apr 4, 2017

Similar to 2013 chemical attack, the Western governments, and corporate mainstream media accusing the Syrian government of using chemical weapons, this time in Khan Shaykhun, in Idleb.
This video discusses the disgusting and criminal usage of chemical weapons in Syria, indicating that it is not the Syrian government but the Islamist\terrorist groups behind the attacks.


Turning a blind eye; invited more of the same.

https://youtu.be/qr_ByQH2QY0

Previous attacks in 2014:
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
https://youtu.be/dkamZg68jpk

The Covert Origins of ISIS
Americans better figure this out in time. Who will pay attention to covert US foreign policy and share?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI&feature=player_detailpage

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Apr 7, 2017 10:07:13   #
goofball Loc: timbucktoo
 
If you remember the first time we went into Iraq was because they used syrin gas in kiwat.

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Apr 7, 2017 10:11:00   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Youjaes wrote:
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump is in way over his head on this one and needs advice. How about everyone list what they would do as Commander in Chief and maybe, just maybe, someone in the intelligence circles will see this and promote some options for the president. I'll start.

First, get some cruise missile subs near Syria. Tell CIA to get some high priority targets for them so they can hit the top level command and control centers of the Syrian military. Hopefully, we have a carrier group in the region for the subs to hide under while on station. We don't need troops or jets and stuff to put one down on Assad. If we show we can take him at a moments notice and we prove we have the nerve to do it with a couple missile hits, we've got leverage.

Second, ask CIA about assets in Syria that can encourage a military coup so we don't have to lift a finger and still get a regime change. Can we do this? Can we initiate the operation? What about Syrian military assets who are willing to entertain the assassination option? I'm sure there are military personnel who have family in Allepo who got hurt in the bombing. Also, see if assets in Syria can convince Assad to step down peacefully and back channel with Putin to give asylum if he leaves now. No matter what, we want him out.

Third, publicly put it to Putin to either take action against Assad since the Russian military is already in Syria, or to publicly step aside and let someone else deal with him. The "give asylum to Assad" works with the back away option. Either way, we want our cruise missile option if we need to send a warning message.

Fourth, encourage the UN coalition to assemble a peace keeping force to intervene in the Syrian conflict in any event.

James
I'm looking at the situation and I'm think Trump i... (show quote)


Getting a little ahead of ourselves here, aren't we? First, a couple of observations:

As yet, there is no evidence that the Assad regime did anything to gas anybody, either now or previously. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Some fool government official saying it does not make it so. From the evidence gathered thus far, it appears these weapon were cobbled together in someone's basement, not bought in by some government military operation. In essence, the 'preponderance of evidence' points to someone other than the Assad regime.

Cruise missiles were fired yesterday at an airfield in Syria. 59 of them to be precise. At $250,000 apiece, the attack cost the Defense Department $14,750,000. That's almost $15 million to pound sand. Here's the story:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-firing-59-tomahawk-missiles-035600272.html

And that's just the replacement cost of the missiles. No word yet on how much it cost to activate the infrastructure required to deliver them. Wild guess? A lot more than $15 million.

As for using CIA assets; after the last 8 years, we have a highly politicized CIA and FBI, neither of which are going to be of much assistance to the Trump administration. Asking the CIA for information is no doubt a prudent act in a sane world, but at this juncture, any reply would likely be severely delayed and suspect in both its completeness and veracity. Yes, they will drag their feet, withhold and and mislead if they think they can 'get away with it'.

The Putin regime has publicly declared that they are acting in support of Assad and against ISIS and other Muslim extremist groups in the region. In fact, the Russians are the only forces actively mitigating the roles of the known terrorist forces in Syria. Yeah, let that one sink in.

So, with all that in mind, what to do about the Middle East mess, Mr. Senior Presidential Advisor?

Good question, Mr. President. Glad you asked. Firstly, please allow me to compliment you on your recent actions regarding Syria and the Syrian question. Very effective at showing the world how a large number of Tomahawk missiles can make craters in the desert sand. Quite the light show, too!

As for future movements in the Middle East? Get out. Run. As far and as fast as you can. Let the Middle East sort out the Middle East and turn your attentions to the more pressing issues right here at home. The US should never have gotten entangled in the Arab world to begin with and that's the root of the issue. Going back to the original discovery of oil in the Middle East, the US has had it's tentacles into every facet of Arab life:

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/ancient-history-us-conduct-middle-east-world-war-ii-folly-intervention

The harm has been done, and cannot be undone. The most favorable scenario is to give the Middle Eastern countries a chance to find their footing and do no more harm through further interventions.

While we're on the subject of foreign intervention, how about we close all of the 800+ US military installations around the world, bring the troops home and work on figuring out what it takes to provide an effective US defense force, sending the rest home and into the workforce. While we're at it, how about we trim back the supporting government bureaucracy to, say, 10% of current levels. Just drop them off at the next corner and let the free market absorb the ones who have any use outside being a waste of time and effort.

Aaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhh! Now you got me started on government waste and fraud again! OK! I admit it! I want to get rid of government completely and we can all just live in peace again. Just institute a single law across the land:

"Don't threaten or initiate force, or ask anyone else to do it for you".

I recommend we call it the 'One Law'. That One Law is sufficient to replace all the millions of pages of legaleze and regulationeze currently ensconced in the bowels of the Washington, DC behemoth. That just leaves one small quandary.

What to do with the buildings and facilities currently government owned and occupied?

I think they should be preserved in some fashion, as monuments to the gullibility of mankind.

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Apr 7, 2017 10:35:33   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Getting a little ahead of ourselves here, aren't we? First, a couple of observations:

As yet, there is no evidence that the Assad regime did anything to gas anybody, either now or previously. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Some fool government official saying it does not make it so. From the evidence gathered thus far, it appears these weapon were cobbled together in someone's basement, not bought in by some government military operation. In essence, the 'preponderance of evidence' points to someone other than the Assad regime.

Cruise missiles were fired yesterday at an airfield in Syria. 59 of them to be precise. At $250,000 apiece, the attack cost the Defense Department $14,750,000. That's almost $15 million to pound sand. Here's the story:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-firing-59-tomahawk-missiles-035600272.html

And that's just the replacement cost of the missiles. No word yet on how much it cost to activate the infrastructure required to deliver them. Wild guess? A lot more than $15 million.

As for using CIA assets; after the last 8 years, we have a highly politicized CIA and FBI, neither of which are going to be of much assistance to the Trump administration. Asking the CIA for information is no doubt a prudent act in a sane world, but at this juncture, any reply would likely be severely delayed and suspect in both its completeness and veracity. Yes, they will drag their feet, withhold and and mislead if they think they can 'get away with it'.

The Putin regime has publicly declared that they are acting in support of Assad and against ISIS and other Muslim extremist groups in the region. In fact, the Russians are the only forces actively mitigating the roles of the known terrorist forces in Syria. Yeah, let that one sink in.

So, with all that in mind, what to do about the Middle East mess, Mr. Senior Presidential Advisor?

Good question, Mr. President. Glad you asked. Firstly, please allow me to compliment you on your recent actions regarding Syria and the Syrian question. Very effective at showing the world how a large number of Tomahawk missiles can make craters in the desert sand. Quite the light show, too!

As for future movements in the Middle East? Get out. Run. As far and as fast as you can. Let the Middle East sort out the Middle East and turn your attentions to the more pressing issues right here at home. The US should never have gotten entangled in the Arab world to begin with and that's the root of the issue. Going back to the original discovery of oil in the Middle East, the US has had it's tentacles into every facet of Arab life:

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/ancient-history-us-conduct-middle-east-world-war-ii-folly-intervention

The harm has been done, and cannot be undone. The most favorable scenario is to give the Middle Eastern countries a chance to find their footing and do no more harm through further interventions.

While we're on the subject of foreign intervention, how about we close all of the 800+ US military installations around the world, bring the troops home and work on figuring out what it takes to provide an effective US defense force, sending the rest home and into the workforce. While we're at it, how about we trim back the supporting government bureaucracy to, say, 10% of current levels. Just drop them off at the next corner and let the free market absorb the ones who have any use outside being a waste of time and effort.

Aaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhh! Now you got me started on government waste and fraud again! OK! I admit it! I want to get rid of government completely and we can all just live in peace again. Just institute a single law across the land:

"Don't threaten or initiate force, or ask anyone else to do it for you".

I recommend we call it the 'One Law'. That One Law is sufficient to replace all the millions of pages of legaleze and regulationeze currently ensconced in the bowels of the Washington, DC behemoth. That just leaves one small quandary.

What to do with the buildings and facilities currently government owned and occupied?

I think they should be preserved in some fashion, as monuments to the gullibility of mankind.
Getting a little ahead of ourselves here, aren't w... (show quote)


Yep!

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Check out topic: DO THE RUSSIANS WANT WAR?...CITIZENS OF DONBASS SINGING..( English subtitles)
Apr 7, 2017 10:53:46   #
Carol Kelly
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
A single nuke would solve that problem. What kind of God can't even protect his holy city? That would show everyone that Allah is a false god.


I don't think nukes are the answer to anything more than chemical weapons. Too many illiterate countries have nukes and they'll use them on us. They aren't worried about retaliation. Do we really want a World War III?

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Apr 7, 2017 10:55:58   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I don't think nukes are the answer to anything more than chemical weapons. Too many illiterate countries have nukes and they'll use them on us. They aren't worried about retaliation. Do we really want a World War III?


World war three will happen, no matter what. Might as well get our licks in first.

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Apr 7, 2017 10:58:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
World war three will happen, no matter what. Might as well get our licks in first.


Who notices that the two networks (FOX and ABCNBCCBSCNNPBS) are promoting the same speal.
Both happier than a pig in shit.
Why?
Could it be both are preaching for the same cause/agenda?
Do both networks answer to the same PTB?

Rivera on FOX is the only commentator I have seen that didn't just buy into the PTB script.
Has Trump been compromised? That is the question to answer. He just went against what he campaigned on.
Who got to him?
False Flag Chemical Attack in Syria
https://youtu.be/qr_ByQH2QY0
Published on Apr 4, 2017

Similar to 2013 chemical attack, the Western governments, and corporate mainstream media accusing the Syrian government of using chemical weapons, this time in Khan Shaykhun, in Idleb.
This video discusses the disgusting and criminal usage of chemical weapons in Syria, indicating that it is not the Syrian government but the Islamist\terrorist groups behind the attacks.


Turning a blind eye; invited more of the same.
https://youtu.be/qr_ByQH2QY0

Previous attacks in 2014:
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
https://youtu.be/dkamZg68jpk

The Covert Origins of ISIS
Americans better figure this out in time. Who will pay attention to covert US foreign policy and share?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI&feature=player_detailpage

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Apr 7, 2017 11:00:13   #
chuckybrass
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Getting a little ahead of ourselves here, aren't we? First, a couple of observations:

As yet, there is no evidence that the Assad regime did anything to gas anybody, either now or previously. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Some fool government official saying it does not make it so. From the evidence gathered thus far, it appears these weapon were cobbled together in someone's basement, not bought in by some government military operation. In essence, the 'preponderance of evidence' points to someone other than the Assad regime.

Cruise missiles were fired yesterday at an airfield in Syria. 59 of them to be precise. At $250,000 apiece, the attack cost the Defense Department $14,750,000. That's almost $15 million to pound sand. Here's the story:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-firing-59-tomahawk-missiles-035600272.html

And that's just the replacement cost of the missiles. No word yet on how much it cost to activate the infrastructure required to deliver them. Wild guess? A lot more than $15 million.

As for using CIA assets; after the last 8 years, we have a highly politicized CIA and FBI, neither of which are going to be of much assistance to the Trump administration. Asking the CIA for information is no doubt a prudent act in a sane world, but at this juncture, any reply would likely be severely delayed and suspect in both its completeness and veracity. Yes, they will drag their feet, withhold and and mislead if they think they can 'get away with it'.

The Putin regime has publicly declared that they are acting in support of Assad and against ISIS and other Muslim extremist groups in the region. In fact, the Russians are the only forces actively mitigating the roles of the known terrorist forces in Syria. Yeah, let that one sink in.

So, with all that in mind, what to do about the Middle East mess, Mr. Senior Presidential Advisor?

Good question, Mr. President. Glad you asked. Firstly, please allow me to compliment you on your recent actions regarding Syria and the Syrian question. Very effective at showing the world how a large number of Tomahawk missiles can make craters in the desert sand. Quite the light show, too!

As for future movements in the Middle East? Get out. Run. As far and as fast as you can. Let the Middle East sort out the Middle East and turn your attentions to the more pressing issues right here at home. The US should never have gotten entangled in the Arab world to begin with and that's the root of the issue. Going back to the original discovery of oil in the Middle East, the US has had it's tentacles into every facet of Arab life:

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/ancient-history-us-conduct-middle-east-world-war-ii-folly-intervention

The harm has been done, and cannot be undone. The most favorable scenario is to give the Middle Eastern countries a chance to find their footing and do no more harm through further interventions.

While we're on the subject of foreign intervention, how about we close all of the 800+ US military installations around the world, bring the troops home and work on figuring out what it takes to provide an effective US defense force, sending the rest home and into the workforce. While we're at it, how about we trim back the supporting government bureaucracy to, say, 10% of current levels. Just drop them off at the next corner and let the free market absorb the ones who have any use outside being a waste of time and effort.

Aaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhh! Now you got me started on government waste and fraud again! OK! I admit it! I want to get rid of government completely and we can all just live in peace again. Just institute a single law across the land:

"Don't threaten or initiate force, or ask anyone else to do it for you".

I recommend we call it the 'One Law'. That One Law is sufficient to replace all the millions of pages of legaleze and regulationeze currently ensconced in the bowels of the Washington, DC behemoth. That just leaves one small quandary.

What to do with the buildings and facilities currently government owned and occupied?

I think they should be preserved in some fashion, as monuments to the gullibility of mankind.
Getting a little ahead of ourselves here, aren't w... (show quote)


So, by your logic, Trump didn't really send out missiles. Guess the discussion is over..........

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Apr 7, 2017 11:03:48   #
Kazudy
 
Iran???? Didn't our past president and John Kerry make A sweet deal for America with Iran? Giving them billions of dollars and Kerry said that all the war chemicals were removed from Syria? What am I missing here?

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Apr 7, 2017 11:06:44   #
Big Bass
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
The CIA is out. Same goes for UN. We don't need anymore Muslims here. Try again.


I bet Sweden is saying that, too.

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Apr 7, 2017 11:28:27   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Larry the Legend wrote:

"Don't threaten or initiate force, or ask anyone else to do it for you".

I recommend we call it the 'One Law'. That One Law is sufficient to replace all the millions of pages of legaleze and regulationeze currently ensconced in the bowels of the Washington, DC behemoth. That just leaves one small quandary.

What to do with the buildings and facilities currently government owned and occupied?

I think they should be preserved in some fashion, as monuments to the gullibility of mankind.
br "Don't threaten or initiate force, or ask... (show quote)




I think we have been at loggerheads in the past but after reading this, I wonder why. Your analysis is spot on. Our Near & Middle East involvement was started, as were just about all our other problems, by the megalomaniacal Franklin D. Roosvelt.

Few are aware that during most of the 1940s, his blood vessels were so sclerotic from chronic hypertension, they were just about impenetrable. This would in turn have compromised his blood supply to his brain. Ergo...? Aa good case can be made that he suffered from increasing dementia.

He practically gave Stalin the store at Teheran.

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Apr 7, 2017 11:41:54   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
I think we have been at loggerheads in the past but after reading this, I wonder why. Your analysis is spot on. Our Near & Middle East involvement was started, as were just about all our other problems, by the megalomaniacal Franklin D. Roosvelt.

Few are aware that during most of the 1940s, his blood vessels were so sclerotic from chronic hypertension, they were just about impenetrable. This would in turn have compromised his blood supply to his brain. Ergo...? Aa good case can be made that he suffered from increasing dementia.

He practically gave Stalin the store at Teheran.
I think we have been at loggerheads in the past bu... (show quote)


"He (FDR) practically gave Stalin the store at Teheran."
Yes he did.
Beware the puppeteers then and now.
Rivera on FOX is the only commentator I have seen that didn't just buy into the PTB script.
Has Trump been compromised? That is the question to answer. He just went against what he campaigned on.
The “official” account makes no sense at all.
Who got to him?
False Flag Chemical Attack in Syria
https://youtu.be/qr_ByQH2QY0
Published on Apr 4, 2017

Similar to 2013 chemical attack, the Western governments, and corporate mainstream media accusing the Syrian government of using chemical weapons, this time in Khan Shaykhun, in Idleb.
This video discusses the disgusting and criminal usage of chemical weapons in Syria, indicating that it is not the Syrian government but the Islamist\terrorist groups behind the attacks.


Turning a blind eye to the past; invited more of the same.

Previous attacks in 2014:
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
https://youtu.be/dkamZg68jpk

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