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Apr 4, 2017 19:45:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Do you think LLNL would admit they had developed a thermite capable of dropping the Twin Towers in less than 15 seconds?
Kevin Ryan, who reported on the new thermite at LLNL stands personally behind everything he reports by revealing his identity.
You stand steadfastly behind cowardly anonymity on everything you post here.
Who has credibility, and who doesn't, is a no-brainer.
Seems you and your brain warped 9/11 blogger overlooked one critical fact here. As the LLNL website report on nano-thermite research indicates, the stuff was not even available in 2001. It was, and still is, in the experimental/research stage. The Lab didn't have a warehouse full of the stuff.

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Apr 5, 2017 09:02:52   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Seems you and your brain warped 9/11 blogger overlooked one critical fact here. As the LLNL website report on nano-thermite research indicates, the stuff was not even available in 2001. It was, and still is, in the experimental/research stage. The Lab didn't have a warehouse full of the stuff.


Those who help conspire to commit mass murder usually aren't that reliable in how they inform the public.
Cowardly anonymous shills have the same proclivity of lying about everything.

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Apr 5, 2017 10:58:09   #
S. Maturin
 
payne1000 wrote:
Nothing else looks quite like explosions powerful enough to turn concrete to dust in midair.
I think you do understand that explosives took the towers down.
Like the other shills here, it's profitable for you to lie and attempt to cover up the truth.
Lying to defend mass murderers is a criminal act. What happens to you when the truth is known to the world?


I have a question: How come everything at those sites was just fine until those buildings were slammed into by huge airplanes at about 500MPH?

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Apr 5, 2017 12:24:56   #
payne1000
 
S. Maturin wrote:
I have a question: How come everything at those sites was just fine until those buildings were slammed into by huge airplanes at about 500MPH?


How come no Arab hijackers showed up on the baggage check-in security videos at Dulles and Logan Airports on 9/11?
Since the alleged hijackers didn't go through airport security, they didn't get on the planes.
The planes which hit the towers were drones. They were only used for effect.
The towers were designed to survive the impact of airliners, which they did, until the explosives were detonated.

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Apr 5, 2017 12:38:44   #
S. Maturin
 
payne1000 wrote:
How come no Arab hijackers showed up on the baggage check-in security videos at Dulles and Logan Airports on 9/11?
Since the alleged hijackers didn't go through airport security, they didn't get on the planes.
The planes which hit the towers were drones. They were only used for effect.
The towers were designed to survive the impact of airliners, which they did, until the explosives were detonated.


Ok, that does it for me.

You are 100% committed to spin, twist, while blinding yourself to truth and scientific data/research.

You are irredeemably ignorant and happy, so "have a nice life, get on with your life, get it behind you", and remember, green_side_up.

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Apr 5, 2017 13:17:56   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Those who help conspire to commit mass murder usually aren't that reliable in how they inform the public.
Cowardly anonymous shills have the same proclivity of lying about everything.
Same charge you level at every individual, science and engineering institution, university, agency, department, website, laboratory, national leader and government worldwide who have proven beyond doubt that the 9/11 conspiracy is bogus. Your list of "perps" has grown to Biblical proportions. That is one helluva massive conspiracy, payne, if your charges had any credibility at all, the line of whistle blowers would be miles long. Funny, isn't it, given the human being's inability to keep secrets, that out of the millions of people you suggest are involved in this terrible thing, not a single one of them who has "inside" knowledge of it has leaked a thing.

You rant on about "cowardly anonymity" and other's refusals to reveal true identities, yet you cannot provide the identity of a single perp who actually participated in destroying the WTC. All of your mythical attackers--the ones who planted the explosives, who detonated them, who either flew the planes or controlled them electronically from some bunker somewhere, or who fired the guided missiles are all anonymous. Not one real identity of a 9/11 attacker is on your list. So, by the standard you have set for credibility, your argument and the charges you make are self defeating. You are, in effect, debunking your own theories.

You can come up with all kinds of excuses for why these 9/11 conspiracy "operatives" remain unknown--they were paid off, they were executed, they were exiled to the Sahara desert, whatever, but those dogs don't hunt.

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Apr 5, 2017 14:24:17   #
payne1000
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Ok, that does it for me.

You are 100% committed to spin, twist, while blinding yourself to truth and scientific data/research.

You are irredeemably ignorant and happy, so "have a nice life, get on with your life, get it behind you", and remember, green_side_up.


Good time for you to skip out on this topic.
There is only one valid explanation as to why there are no security videos showing the alleged hijackers going through airport security.
That explanation is that they didn't get on the planes. Drones don't need hands on piloting.

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Apr 5, 2017 14:27:45   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Same charge you level at every individual, science and engineering institution, university, agency, department, website, laboratory, national leader and government worldwide who have proven beyond doubt that the 9/11 conspiracy is bogus. Your list of "perps" has grown to Biblical proportions. That is one helluva massive conspiracy, payne, if your charges had any credibility at all, the line of whistle blowers would be miles long. Funny, isn't it, given the human being's inability to keep secrets, that out of the millions of people you suggest are involved in this terrible thing, not a single one of them who has "inside" knowledge of it has leaked a thing.

You rant on about "cowardly anonymity" and other's refusals to reveal true identities, yet you cannot provide the identity of a single perp who actually participated in destroying the WTC. All of your mythical attackers--the ones who planted the explosives, who detonated them, who either flew the planes or controlled them electronically from some bunker somewhere, or who fired the guided missiles are all anonymous. Not one real identity of a 9/11 attacker is on your list. So, by the standard you have set for credibility, your argument and the charges you make are self defeating. You are, in effect, debunking your own theories.

You can come up with all kinds of excuses for why these 9/11 conspiracy "operatives" remain unknown--they were paid off, they were executed, they were exiled to the Sahara desert, whatever, but those dogs don't hunt.
Same charge you level at every individual, science... (show quote)


Here are some of the most prominent players in the 9/11 false flag operation.
If you can't figure out what each of their names are, I'd be glad to name them for you . . .



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Apr 5, 2017 14:36:55   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Here are some of the most prominent players in the 9/11 false flag operation.
If you can't figure out what each of their names are, I'd be glad to name them for you . . .
Don't need any names, but just post a photo of which one of those planted explosives in the WTC. Or, which one detonated them.

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Apr 5, 2017 14:51:25   #
emarine
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Don't need any names, but just post a photo of which one of those planted explosives in the WTC. Or, which one detonated them.

Dam it payne...sasquatch did it
Dam it payne...sasquatch did it...

& I'm not Jewish putz
& I'm not Jewish putz...

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Apr 5, 2017 14:59:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Good time for you to skip out on this topic.
There is only one valid explanation as to why there are no security videos showing the alleged hijackers going through airport security.
That explanation is that they didn't get on the planes. Drones don't need hands on piloting.
ISIS And Al-Qaeda Celebrate 9/11, Threaten More Attacks

Boarding the Flights

Boston: American 11 and United 175.

Atta and Omari boarded a 6:00 A.M. flight from Portland to Boston's Logan International Airport.

When he checked in for his flight to Boston, Atta was selected by a computerized prescreening system known as CAPPS (Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System), created to identify passengers who should be subject to special security measures. Under security rules in place at the time, the only consequence of Atta's selection by CAPPS was that his checked bags were held off the plane until it was confirmed that he had boarded the aircraft. This did not hinder Atta's plans.

Atta and Omari arrived in Boston at 6:45. Seven minutes later, Atta apparently took a call from Marwan al Shehhi, a longtime colleague who was at another terminal at Logan Airport. They spoke for three minutes. It would be their final conversation.

Between 6:45 and 7:40, Atta and Omari, along with Satam al Suqami, Wail al Shehri, and Waleed al Shehri, checked in and boarded American Airlines Flight 11, bound for Los Angeles. The flight was scheduled to depart at 7:45.

In another Logan terminal, Shehhi, joined by Fayez Banihammad, Mohand al Shehri, Ahmed al Ghamdi, and Hamza al Ghamdi, checked in for United Airlines Flight 175, also bound for Los Angeles. A couple of Shehhi's colleagues were obviously unused to travel; according to the United ticket agent, they had trouble understanding the standard security questions, and she had to go over them slowly until they gave the routine, reassuring answers. Their flight was scheduled to depart at 8:00.

The security checkpoints through which passengers, including Atta and his colleagues, gained access to the American 11 gate were operated by Globe Security under a contract with American Airlines. In a different terminal, the single checkpoint through which passengers for United 175 passed was controlled by United Airlines, which had contracted with Huntleigh USA to perform the screening.

In passing through these checkpoints, each of the hijackers would have been screened by a walk-through metal detector calibrated to detect items with at least the metal content of a .22-caliber handgun. Anyone who might have set off that detector would have been screened with a hand wand-a procedure requiring the screener to identify the metal item or items that caused the alarm. In addition, an X-ray machine would have screened the hijackers' carry-on belongings. The screening was in place to identify and confiscate weapons and other items prohibited from being carried onto a commercial flight. None of the checkpoint supervisors recalled the hijackers or reported anything suspicious regarding their screening.

While Atta had been selected by CAPPS in Portland, three members of his hijacking team-Suqami, Wail al Shehri, and Waleed al Shehri-were selected in Boston. Their selection affected only the handling of their checked bags, not their screening at the checkpoint. All five men cleared the checkpoint and made their way to the gate for American 11. Atta, Omari, and Suqami took their seats in business class (seats 8D, 8G, and 10B, respectively). The Shehri brothers had adjacent seats in row 2 (Wail in 2A,Waleed in 2B), in the first-class cabin. They boarded American 11 between 7:31 and 7:40. The aircraft pushed back from the gate at 7:40.

Shehhi and his team, none of whom had been selected by CAPPS, boarded United 175 between 7:23 and 7:28 (Banihammad in 2A, Shehri in 2B, Shehhi in 6C, Hamza al Ghamdi in 9C, and Ahmed al Ghamdi in 9D).Their aircraft pushed back from the gate just before 8:00.

Washington Dulles: American 77.

Hundreds of miles southwest of Boston, at Dulles International Airport in the Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C., five more men were preparing to take their early morning flight. At 7:15, a pair of them, Khalid al Mihdhar and Majed Moqed, checked in at the American Airlines ticket counter for Flight 77, bound for Los Angeles. Within the next 20 minutes, they would be followed by Hani Hanjour and two brothers, Nawaf al Hazmi and Salem al Hazmi.

Hani Hanjour, Khalid al Mihdhar, and Majed Moqed were flagged by CAPPS. The Hazmi brothers were also selected for extra scrutiny by the air-line's customer service representative at the check-in counter. He did so because one of the brothers did not have photo identification nor could he understand English, and because the agent found both of the passengers to be suspicious. The only consequence of their selection was that their checked bags were held off the plane until it was confirmed that they had boarded the aircraft.

All five hijackers passed through the Main Terminal's west security screening checkpoint; United Airlines, which was the responsible air carrier, had contracted out the work to Argenbright Security. The checkpoint featured closed-circuit television that recorded all passengers, including the hijackers, as they were screened. At 7:18, Mihdhar and Moqed entered the security checkpoint.

Mihdhar and Moqed placed their carry-on bags on the belt of the X-ray machine and proceeded through the first metal detector. Both set off the alarm, and they were directed to a second metal detector. Mihdhar did not trigger the alarm and was permitted through the checkpoint. After Moqed set it off, a screener wanded him. He passed this inspection.

About 20 minutes later, at 7:35, another passenger for Flight 77, Hani Han-jour, placed two carry-on bags on the X-ray belt in the Main Terminal's west checkpoint, and proceeded, without alarm, through the metal detector. A short time later, Nawaf and Salem al Hazmi entered the same checkpoint. Salem al Hazmi cleared the metal detector and was permitted through; Nawaf al Hazmi set off the alarms for both the first and second metal detectors and was then hand-wanded before being passed. In addition, his over-the-shoulder carry-on bag was swiped by an explosive trace detector and then passed. The video footage indicates that he was carrying an unidentified item in his back pocket, clipped to its rim.

When the local civil aviation security office of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) later investigated these security screening operations, the screeners recalled nothing out of the ordinary. They could not recall that any of the passengers they screened were CAPPS selectees. We asked a screening expert to review the videotape of the hand-wanding, and he found the quality of the screener's work to have been "marginal at best." The screener should have "resolved" what set off the alarm; and in the case of both Moqed and Hazmi, it was clear that he did not.

At 7:50, Majed Moqed and Khalid al Mihdhar boarded the flight and were seated in 12A and 12B in coach. Hani Hanjour, assigned to seat 1B (first class), soon followed.The Hazmi brothers, sitting in 5E and 5F, joined Hanjour in the first-class cabin.

Newark: United 93.

Between 7:03 and 7:39, Saeed al Ghamdi, Ahmed al Nami, Ahmad al Haznawi, and Ziad Jarrah checked in at the United Airlines ticket counter for Flight 93, going to Los Angeles. Two checked bags; two did not. Haznawi was selected by CAPPS. His checked bag was screened for explosives and then loaded on the plane.

The four men passed through the security checkpoint, owned by United Airlines and operated under contract by Argenbright Security. Like the checkpoints in Boston, it lacked closed-circuit television surveillance so there is no documentary evidence to indicate when the hijackers passed through the checkpoint, what alarms may have been triggered, or what security procedures were administered. The FAA interviewed the screeners later; none recalled anything unusual or suspicious.19

The four men boarded the plane between 7:39 and 7:48. All four had seats in the first-class cabin; their plane had no business-class section. Jarrah was in seat 1B, closest to the cockpit; Nami was in 3C, Ghamdi in 3D, and Haznawi in 6B.20

The 19 men were aboard four transcontinental flights.21 They were planning to hijack these planes and turn them into large guided missiles, loaded with up to 11,400 gallons of jet fuel. By 8:00 A.M. on the morning of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, they had defeated all the security layers that America's civil aviation security system then had in place to prevent a hijacking.

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Apr 5, 2017 15:02:49   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Don't need any names, but just post a photo of which one of those planted explosives in the WTC. Or, which one detonated them.


You're asking me for information which only those involved in the planning and execution of 9/11 would know.
A legitimate investigation to find out who did it would reveal those names.
This was the greatest crime in the history of the United States and there has never been a criminal investigation to determine who did it.
Those who committed the crime saw to it that no criminal investigation was allowed.



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Apr 5, 2017 15:21:05   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
ISIS And Al-Qaeda Celebrate 9/11, Threaten More Attacks

Boarding the Flights

Boston: American 11 and United 175.

Atta and Omari boarded a 6:00 A.M. flight from Portland to Boston's Logan International Airport.

When he checked in for his flight to Boston, Atta was selected by a computerized prescreening system known as CAPPS (Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System), created to identify passengers who should be subject to special security measures. Under security rules in place at the time, the only consequence of Atta's selection by CAPPS was that his checked bags were held off the plane until it was confirmed that he had boarded the aircraft. This did not hinder Atta's plans.

Atta and Omari arrived in Boston at 6:45. Seven minutes later, Atta apparently took a call from Marwan al Shehhi, a longtime colleague who was at another terminal at Logan Airport. They spoke for three minutes. It would be their final conversation.

Between 6:45 and 7:40, Atta and Omari, along with Satam al Suqami, Wail al Shehri, and Waleed al Shehri, checked in and boarded American Airlines Flight 11, bound for Los Angeles. The flight was scheduled to depart at 7:45.

In another Logan terminal, Shehhi, joined by Fayez Banihammad, Mohand al Shehri, Ahmed al Ghamdi, and Hamza al Ghamdi, checked in for United Airlines Flight 175, also bound for Los Angeles. A couple of Shehhi's colleagues were obviously unused to travel; according to the United ticket agent, they had trouble understanding the standard security questions, and she had to go over them slowly until they gave the routine, reassuring answers. Their flight was scheduled to depart at 8:00.

The security checkpoints through which passengers, including Atta and his colleagues, gained access to the American 11 gate were operated by Globe Security under a contract with American Airlines. In a different terminal, the single checkpoint through which passengers for United 175 passed was controlled by United Airlines, which had contracted with Huntleigh USA to perform the screening.

In passing through these checkpoints, each of the hijackers would have been screened by a walk-through metal detector calibrated to detect items with at least the metal content of a .22-caliber handgun. Anyone who might have set off that detector would have been screened with a hand wand-a procedure requiring the screener to identify the metal item or items that caused the alarm. In addition, an X-ray machine would have screened the hijackers' carry-on belongings. The screening was in place to identify and confiscate weapons and other items prohibited from being carried onto a commercial flight. None of the checkpoint supervisors recalled the hijackers or reported anything suspicious regarding their screening.

While Atta had been selected by CAPPS in Portland, three members of his hijacking team-Suqami, Wail al Shehri, and Waleed al Shehri-were selected in Boston. Their selection affected only the handling of their checked bags, not their screening at the checkpoint. All five men cleared the checkpoint and made their way to the gate for American 11. Atta, Omari, and Suqami took their seats in business class (seats 8D, 8G, and 10B, respectively). The Shehri brothers had adjacent seats in row 2 (Wail in 2A,Waleed in 2B), in the first-class cabin. They boarded American 11 between 7:31 and 7:40. The aircraft pushed back from the gate at 7:40.

Shehhi and his team, none of whom had been selected by CAPPS, boarded United 175 between 7:23 and 7:28 (Banihammad in 2A, Shehri in 2B, Shehhi in 6C, Hamza al Ghamdi in 9C, and Ahmed al Ghamdi in 9D).Their aircraft pushed back from the gate just before 8:00.

Washington Dulles: American 77.

Hundreds of miles southwest of Boston, at Dulles International Airport in the Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C., five more men were preparing to take their early morning flight. At 7:15, a pair of them, Khalid al Mihdhar and Majed Moqed, checked in at the American Airlines ticket counter for Flight 77, bound for Los Angeles. Within the next 20 minutes, they would be followed by Hani Hanjour and two brothers, Nawaf al Hazmi and Salem al Hazmi.

Hani Hanjour, Khalid al Mihdhar, and Majed Moqed were flagged by CAPPS. The Hazmi brothers were also selected for extra scrutiny by the air-line's customer service representative at the check-in counter. He did so because one of the brothers did not have photo identification nor could he understand English, and because the agent found both of the passengers to be suspicious. The only consequence of their selection was that their checked bags were held off the plane until it was confirmed that they had boarded the aircraft.

All five hijackers passed through the Main Terminal's west security screening checkpoint; United Airlines, which was the responsible air carrier, had contracted out the work to Argenbright Security. The checkpoint featured closed-circuit television that recorded all passengers, including the hijackers, as they were screened. At 7:18, Mihdhar and Moqed entered the security checkpoint.

Mihdhar and Moqed placed their carry-on bags on the belt of the X-ray machine and proceeded through the first metal detector. Both set off the alarm, and they were directed to a second metal detector. Mihdhar did not trigger the alarm and was permitted through the checkpoint. After Moqed set it off, a screener wanded him. He passed this inspection.

About 20 minutes later, at 7:35, another passenger for Flight 77, Hani Han-jour, placed two carry-on bags on the X-ray belt in the Main Terminal's west checkpoint, and proceeded, without alarm, through the metal detector. A short time later, Nawaf and Salem al Hazmi entered the same checkpoint. Salem al Hazmi cleared the metal detector and was permitted through; Nawaf al Hazmi set off the alarms for both the first and second metal detectors and was then hand-wanded before being passed. In addition, his over-the-shoulder carry-on bag was swiped by an explosive trace detector and then passed. The video footage indicates that he was carrying an unidentified item in his back pocket, clipped to its rim.

When the local civil aviation security office of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) later investigated these security screening operations, the screeners recalled nothing out of the ordinary. They could not recall that any of the passengers they screened were CAPPS selectees. We asked a screening expert to review the videotape of the hand-wanding, and he found the quality of the screener's work to have been "marginal at best." The screener should have "resolved" what set off the alarm; and in the case of both Moqed and Hazmi, it was clear that he did not.

At 7:50, Majed Moqed and Khalid al Mihdhar boarded the flight and were seated in 12A and 12B in coach. Hani Hanjour, assigned to seat 1B (first class), soon followed.The Hazmi brothers, sitting in 5E and 5F, joined Hanjour in the first-class cabin.

Newark: United 93.

Between 7:03 and 7:39, Saeed al Ghamdi, Ahmed al Nami, Ahmad al Haznawi, and Ziad Jarrah checked in at the United Airlines ticket counter for Flight 93, going to Los Angeles. Two checked bags; two did not. Haznawi was selected by CAPPS. His checked bag was screened for explosives and then loaded on the plane.

The four men passed through the security checkpoint, owned by United Airlines and operated under contract by Argenbright Security. Like the checkpoints in Boston, it lacked closed-circuit television surveillance so there is no documentary evidence to indicate when the hijackers passed through the checkpoint, what alarms may have been triggered, or what security procedures were administered. The FAA interviewed the screeners later; none recalled anything unusual or suspicious.19

The four men boarded the plane between 7:39 and 7:48. All four had seats in the first-class cabin; their plane had no business-class section. Jarrah was in seat 1B, closest to the cockpit; Nami was in 3C, Ghamdi in 3D, and Haznawi in 6B.20

The 19 men were aboard four transcontinental flights.21 They were planning to hijack these planes and turn them into large guided missiles, loaded with up to 11,400 gallons of jet fuel. By 8:00 A.M. on the morning of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, they had defeated all the security layers that America's civil aviation security system then had in place to prevent a hijacking.
url=http://www.vocativ.com/358243/isis-and-al-qae... (show quote)


None of what you post here has any validity without the videos of the alleged hijackers going through airport baggage security check points.
Atta showed up on the Portland, Maine, videos earlier that morning.
The same type of dated videos would have recorded all of the hijackers getting on all four allegedly hijacked airliners. Where are any of those videos?
If they existed, the Bush Administration would have plastered them all over the media as they did with the one of Atta on his commuter flight boarding video.
Since none of the alleged hijackers appeared on any security videos at Dulles or Logan Airports, the only valid conclusion which can be reached is that they didn't board the planes.

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Airport security videos for all 19 alleged hijackers are missing. Why?
Airport security videos for all 19 alleged hijacke...

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Apr 5, 2017 15:21:38   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Roseland wrote:
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All these young kids are brainwashed. From public schools to colleges and universities, the liberal/democrat/progressive SEIU teachers, and professors all brain wash these students. Now they become lost. Forever social problems. That is why I will always educate my children and grandchildren to Christian and Catholic schools.


Perhaps if you unwrapped that stinking rag from around your head you too might see the light and join the civilized world.
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Here. Strap on this explosive belt, run out into the parking lot and blow yourself up. Allah awaits you with all those virgins.

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