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Mar 25, 2017 13:22:39   #
eden
 
S. Maturin wrote:
I cannot help but think this is part of a design.

It is obvious the 'DC Elites' that Trump railed against are still in DC and are willing to fly their flag of the progressive movement and just think- now the general public has proof the republicans tried to get that killing Obama plan out of our lives.
So, think on it; When the OBAMA DISASTER really does crash and burn (remember democrats built it and own it 100%) how will that be? Sure the propaganda media will work overtime to make the 'useful idiots' scream the failing democrat program is all Trump's fault, but even the dumbest of the dumb should se the truth when it slams into their absolute survival, one would imagine.

If it is a strategy, it might just be genius. We'll see, won't we?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/24/sean-spicer-gop-health-care-bill-vote-cancellation-trump-obamacare
I cannot help but think this is part of a design. ... (show quote)


Great spin! Worthy of Sean Spicer.

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Mar 25, 2017 13:33:25   #
S. Maturin
 
eden wrote:
Great spin! Worthy of Sean Spicer.


As I said; We'll see.

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Mar 25, 2017 15:08:42   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
eden wrote:
Seems like he just failed at shutting down Obamacare per his oft repeated promise but I'm sure you can "splain" us folks on that.
Seems like I heard more illegal aliens were deported under Obama than any previous President or was that just "fake news" too?
But ask any person on the street if they consider undocumented aliens a bigger problem than the threat to their healthcare and they will probably say the latter. As usual in the reactive echo chamber of American politics the symptoms are being attacked but not the underlying disease. The inconvenient truth is that aliens come here because Americans want cheap labor and the obvious answer is to provide some sort of guest worker scheme but that is not a palatable solution to the macho law and order crowd. An interesting parallel is the illegal drug trade. No demand... no supply, but that's an argument for another topic.
Seems like he just failed at shutting down Obamaca... (show quote)


"Seems like I heard more illegal aliens were deported under Obama than any previous President or was that just "fake news" too?"

As a matter of fact, that WAS fake news. The Obama Administration is the only one in this country's history to count turnbacks at or near the border as "deportations." If they counted their deportations the same way as everyone else, they would be dead last.

As far as wetbacks being a bigger threat it depends on whom you ask. Much of the illegal drug trade you referenced is carried on by illegals. Thousands of these people are put in prison, and then turned back loose on US streets rather than being deported. Deportations are on the way back up under Trump, his budget calls for a large increase in the Border Patrol, and an end to Sanctuary Cities. There are between 12 and 20 million illegals in this country at any given time. The largest concentrations are in a few states. People who live in areas with small illegal populations don't view them as a problem because they are not one. Yet. They are a large problem in the states where most of them reside. The United States spends more than 100 billion dollars a year on these wetbacks, a fact that Liberals ignore when they point to the 10 billion or so that these criminals pay in taxes. They pay taxes because they obtained employment with fake ID's. Trump's budget also calls for a large expansion of E verify, which we have to have to stop illegals. Many employers hire illegals with very good forged ID.

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Mar 25, 2017 17:41:53   #
Progressive One
 
Loki wrote:
"Seems like I heard more illegal aliens were deported under Obama than any previous President or was that just "fake news" too?"

As a matter of fact, that WAS fake news. The Obama Administration is the only one in this country's history to count turnbacks at or near the border as "deportations." If they counted their deportations the same way as everyone else, they would be dead last.

As far as wetbacks being a bigger threat it depends on whom you ask. Much of the illegal drug trade you referenced is carried on by illegals. Thousands of these people are put in prison, and then turned back loose on US streets rather than being deported. Deportations are on the way back up under Trump, his budget calls for a large increase in the Border Patrol, and an end to Sanctuary Cities. There are between 12 and 20 million illegals in this country at any given time. The largest concentrations are in a few states. People who live in areas with small illegal populations don't view them as a problem because they are not one. Yet. They are a large problem in the states where most of them reside. The United States spends more than 100 billion dollars a year on these wetbacks, a fact that Liberals ignore when they point to the 10 billion or so that these criminals pay in taxes. They pay taxes because they obtained employment with fake ID's. Trump's budget also calls for a large expansion of E verify, which we have to have to stop illegals. Many employers hire illegals with very good forged ID.
i "Seems like I heard more illegal aliens we... (show quote)


Why do you refer to people with racial slurs? are you that old of a racist that you cannot even change? I know some Mexicans who would murder your ass as a matter of principle......

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Mar 25, 2017 17:49:38   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Progressive One wrote:
Why do you refer to people with racial slurs? are you that old of a racist that you cannot even change? I know some Mexicans who would murder your ass as a matter of principle......


PO1-not much different than the democrat KKK hanging guys like you as a matter of principle !!! Neither action
makes much sense ! You seem to inject race at every opportunity but I suppose that is what racists do. Your pals
Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis Farakhan would be proud. America First !!!

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Mar 25, 2017 17:53:41   #
Progressive One
 
Ricko wrote:
PO1-not much different than the democrat KKK hanging guys like you as a matter of principle !!! Neither action
makes much sense ! You seem to inject race at every opportunity but I suppose that is what racists do. Your pals
Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis Farakhan would be proud. America First !!!


Read Post-64 where the klan and dixiecrats became TODAY'S GOP.....and anyone who addresses racism is labeled a racist by the right, even if they have whites assisting them....like Jackson and Sharpton.....Farrakhan is the black version of separatist whites....

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Mar 25, 2017 20:31:22   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Progressive One wrote:
Why do you refer to people with racial slurs? are you that old of a racist that you cannot even change? I know some Mexicans who would murder your ass as a matter of principle......


You are actually accusing others of using racial slurs? Are you kidding? Sometimes I can't believe what I'm reading on here by you guys. You are really better than the comic pages.

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Mar 25, 2017 20:32:55   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Progressive One wrote:
Why do you refer to people with racial slurs? are you that old of a racist that you cannot even change? I know some Mexicans who would murder your ass as a matter of principle......


Why do YOU refer to people with racial slurs? You called me several while you were in your incarnation as KHH1 before I returned the favor.
Wetback is not a racial slur. Mexican is not a race, you dimwit. A professor with as many degrees as you claim to possess should know that. A Mexican citizen who is in Mexico, or one who comes to this country legally is no better or worse than any other law-abiding person. A wetback criminal who sneaks in and flouts this country's laws with every breath he or she takes is NOT an "undocumented immigrant." They are criminals. Sneaking into this country is a serious misdemeanor at best and a felony many times. The crime rate for illegals is astronomical compared to that of Latinos who are US citizens. Their percentage of the prison population far exceeds their percentage of the general population.
So you know "some Mexicans who would murder my ass as a matter of principle?" Now that's funny. Once upon a time, one of them tried. He didn't like me dating his cousin. I suppose he wanted to date her himself. ¿Quién sabe?
I grew up in a town that was majority Hispanic. The first time I ever heard the term "wetback" was from a Latino classmate of mine referring to some migrants who had overstayed the picking season.

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Mar 25, 2017 20:33:38   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Progressive One wrote:
Why do you refer to people with racial slurs? are you that old of a racist that you cannot even change? I know some Mexicans who would murder your ass as a matter of principle......



I don't doubt that you do. Are they your regular Friday night poker buddies?

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Mar 25, 2017 20:40:40   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Progressive One wrote:
Read Post-64 where the klan and dixiecrats became TODAY'S GOP.....and anyone who addresses racism is labeled a racist by the right, even if they have whites assisting them....like Jackson and Sharpton.....Farrakhan is the black version of separatist whites....



Have you ever considered reading REAL history books?

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Mar 25, 2017 20:57:39   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Progressive One wrote:
Why do you refer to people with racial slurs? are you that old of a racist that you cannot even change? I know some Mexicans who would murder your ass as a matter of principle......


Racial slurs? Like "White Trash"? Is that what you mean?

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Mar 25, 2017 22:00:53   #
Progressive One
 
Loki wrote:
Why do YOU refer to people with racial slurs? You called me several while you were in your incarnation as KHH1 before I returned the favor.
Wetback is not a racial slur. Mexican is not a race, you dimwit. A professor with as many degrees as you claim to possess should know that. A Mexican citizen who is in Mexico, or one who comes to this country legally is no better or worse than any other law-abiding person. A wetback criminal who sneaks in and flouts this country's laws with every breath he or she takes is NOT an "undocumented immigrant." They are criminals. Sneaking into this country is a serious misdemeanor at best and a felony many times. The crime rate for illegals is astronomical compared to that of Latinos who are US citizens. Their percentage of the prison population far exceeds their percentage of the general population.
So you know "some Mexicans who would murder my ass as a matter of principle?" Now that's funny. Once upon a time, one of them tried. He didn't like me dating his cousin. I suppose he wanted to date her himself. ¿Quién sabe?
I grew up in a town that was majority Hispanic. The first time I ever heard the term "wetback" was from a Latino classmate of mine referring to some migrants who had overstayed the picking season.
Why do YOU refer to people with racial slurs? You ... (show quote)


Yeah...I know some Mexicans that would murder you AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE FOR SAYING THAT!!!! Why are you so damn dishonest? you knew what fking context I was using....i really don't like talking to you because it is like arguing with a woman who likes to argue..........read below and maybe you need to get out more and stop living places where everyone looks alike. Everyone knows wetback is a racial slur.....probably not where you live:


wikipedia:


Wetback is a derogatory term used in the United States to refer to Mexicans. The word mostly targets Illegal aliens in the U.S.[1]
Generally used as an ethnic slur,[2] the term was originally coined and applied only to Mexicans who entered the U.S. state of Texas from Mexico by crossing the Rio Grande, which forms the border between Texas and Mexico, presumably by swimming or wading across the river and getting wet in the process.[3]

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Mar 26, 2017 02:28:17   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Progressive One wrote:
Yeah...I know some Mexicans that would murder you AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE FOR SAYING THAT!!!! Why are you so damn dishonest? you knew what fking context I was using....i really don't like talking to you because it is like arguing with a woman who likes to argue..........read below and maybe you need to get out more and stop living places where everyone looks alike. Everyone knows wetback is a racial slur.....probably not where you live:


wikipedia:


Wetback is a derogatory term used in the United States to refer to Mexicans. The word mostly targets Illegal aliens in the U.S.[1]
Generally used as an ethnic slur,[2] the term was originally coined and applied only to Mexicans who entered the U.S. state of Texas from Mexico by crossing the Rio Grande, which forms the border between Texas and Mexico, presumably by swimming or wading across the river and getting wet in the process.[3]
Yeah...I know some Mexicans that would murder you ... (show quote)


Mexico is a nation, ergo; Mexican is a nationality, not a race. Are you really this stupid, Professor Pendejo? Mexicans come in mixed race, (mestizo), Indian, black, and lily white. To which of those races or racial mixtures do I refer, you dumbass?
You claim wetback is a racist term and then offer a definition having nothing to do with race as your "proof." However did you manage on your imaginary thesis for your imaginary doctorate[s]?

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Mar 26, 2017 03:35:19   #
Progressive One
 
[quote=Loki]Mexico is a nation, ergo; Mexican is a nationality, not a race. Are you really this stupid, Professor Pendejo? Mexicans come in mixed race, (mestizo), Indian, black, and lily white. To which of those races or racial mixtures do I refer, you dumbass?
You claim wetback is a racist term and then offer a definition having nothing to do with race as your "proof." However did you manage on your imaginary thesis for your imaginary doctorate[s]?[/quote]

Okay if you want to remain that stupid you fking racist hick ass moron...you want to argue .....wander among a bunch of Mexicans calling them that (as the ones I know who say they are Mexican) and see what reaction you get. You want to be a stupid fk go ahead..get your fking racist ass skull split.....I don't care what is a race or that other bullshit you're talking...take your ass to Mexico and tell them there is no race....Old ass white people like you never learned any lessons in life..you're from a time where you talked to everyone as if they were less....try your dumb shit beyond OPP in 2017......you like to lie and argue......so don't listen to me....learn from life..............old ass antebellum fker


Mexican slur has long history in politics
Gregory Korte, USA TODAY 6:30 p.m. ET March 29, 2013
Critics say the term wetback — which refers to workers who came to the United States by swimming across the Rio Grande — has never been acceptable.

"It was a slur then, it's a slur now," said Lisa Navarette, a spokeswoman for the National Council of La Raza, the nation's largest Hispanic advocacy group. "It's never been something benign."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/03/29/mexican-immigration-slur-history/2036329/

"Wetback is a derogatory term used to describe Mexicans who have immigrated illegally to the United States by swimming or wading across the Rio Grande--the river that separates the U.S. from Mexico. U.S. Border Patrol began using the word in 1944 to refer to illegal Mexican immigrants who were easily identifiable by their wet clothing.
In 1954, the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service made the word "wetback" official by naming the mission to remove illegal immigrants from the United States, Operation Wetback . In response to the increase of immigrants during the early 1950s, the agency developed the program to force immigrants (particularly Mexicans) back to their home countries. Aproximately one million Mexican Americans were deported in one year.

Today the term "wetback" is often used to express animosity towards Central American or Latin American immigrants--legal and illegal--who do not speak English. Meanwhile, in an attempt to reclaim the word, some Mexican-Americans call themselves Los Mojados, meaning "the wet ones."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wetback

Now insult all you want you antebellum dumb ass insulting don't know shit ass cracka......can't tell your type shit

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Mar 26, 2017 04:34:57   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Progressive One wrote:
Okay if you want to remain that stupid you fking racist hick ass moron...you want to argue .....wander among a bunch of Mexicans calling them that (as the ones I know who say they are Mexican) and see what reaction you get. You want to be a stupid fk go ahead..get your fking racist ass skull split.....I don't care what is a race or that other bullshit you're talking...take your ass to Mexico and tell them there is no race....Old ass white people like you never learned any lessons in life..you're from a time where you talked to everyone as if they were less....try your dumb shit beyond OPP in 2017......you like to lie and argue......so don't listen to me....learn from life..............old ass antebellum fker


Mexican slur has long history in politics
Gregory Korte, USA TODAY 6:30 p.m. ET March 29, 2013
Critics say the term wetback — which refers to workers who came to the United States by swimming across the Rio Grande — has never been acceptable.

"It was a slur then, it's a slur now," said Lisa Navarette, a spokeswoman for the National Council of La Raza, the nation's largest Hispanic advocacy group. "It's never been something benign."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/03/29/mexican-immigration-slur-history/2036329/

"Wetback is a derogatory term used to describe Mexicans who have immigrated illegally to the United States by swimming or wading across the Rio Grande--the river that separates the U.S. from Mexico. U.S. Border Patrol began using the word in 1944 to refer to illegal Mexican immigrants who were easily identifiable by their wet clothing.
In 1954, the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service made the word "wetback" official by naming the mission to remove illegal immigrants from the United States, Operation Wetback . In response to the increase of immigrants during the early 1950s, the agency developed the program to force immigrants (particularly Mexicans) back to their home countries. Aproximately one million Mexican Americans were deported in one year.

Today the term "wetback" is often used to express animosity towards Central American or Latin American immigrants--legal and illegal--who do not speak English. Meanwhile, in an attempt to reclaim the word, some Mexican-Americans call themselves Los Mojados, meaning "the wet ones."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wetback

Now insult all you want you antebellum dumb ass insulting don't know shit ass cracka......can't tell your type shit
Okay if you want to remain that stupid you fking r... (show quote)


I believe you asked me why I insulted people all the time. You certainly have no room to talk.
You have yet to show one shred of evidence that "Mexican" is a race, pendejo. If "Mexican" is a race, then so is "American," or "Canadian," or "Bolivian."
Your "source" states that "approximately one million Mexican-Americans" were deported in one year. Besides misspelling "approximately," it did not state where the "Mexican-Americans" were deported from, or where they were deported to. "Mexican-Americans" are not wetbacks, they are US citizens, and cannot be deported. Dummy.
Legal immigrants are not wetbacks. Peckerhead.

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"It was a slur then, it's a slur now," said Lisa Navarette, a spokeswoman for the National Council of La Raza, the nation's largest Hispanic advocacy group. "It's never been something benign."
What this spokeswoman for the Hispanic KKK forgets to mention is that while calling a burglar a f*cking thief is a slur, it is not inaccurate.
Wetback has been used to describe illegals. Illegals are criminals. So you are saying that criminals should not be insulted because it might hurt their feelings, or diminish their sense of self-worth? Oh, dear. If Ms. Navarette wants to address bigotry toward law-abiding citizens of the US who happen to be of Hispanic origins, I might listen. La Raza is in the business of legitimizing criminals and criminal behavior by certain nationalities, NOT races, of people.
Of course, you think Louis Farrakhan and the New Black Panther Party are also authoritative. You are in favor of anything and anyone who tries to accord second-class status to Caucasians, who really ARE a race. (Even the ones who are Mexican citizens.)

You see, Professor Pendejo, Intelligent people (that leaves you out; all of your protestations to the contrary) may use insults. We do not, however, use them as gratuitously as a Ghetto Possum such as yourself. Intelligent people, (once more unlike you) are a bit more creative with their insults; Truly stupid people resort to "fk you," racist ass, "cracka," "muthafuka" and all the other terms of endearment you bandy about as you futilely flail away at your intellectual superiors. Your intemperate outbursts are elegant proof of your prevarications about your academic achievements.

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