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Mar 25, 2017 01:52:21   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Trump doesn't seem the type to make that mistake again.

I hope not.

He's made a lot of Conservative decisions since he became POTUS. This was his first really liberal decision, and it's ending should have been predicted.

Obamacare is a failure because it's liberal.

You Trumpsters should quietly thank the conservatives that stopped Trump from putting that failure on his lap.

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Mar 25, 2017 02:18:01   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Super Dave wrote:
Trump doesn't seem the type to make that mistake again.

I hope not.

He's made a lot of Conservative decisions since he became POTUS. This was his first really liberal decision, and it's ending should have been predicted.

Obamacare is a failure because it's liberal.

You Trumpsters should quietly thank the conservatives that stopped Trump from putting that failure on his lap.


Yes you are correct it was best to have this bill redone....but it also allows Trump to see who needs to be fired and who to be hired!

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Mar 25, 2017 05:30:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
America Only wrote:
Yes you are correct it was best to have this bill redone....but it also allows Trump to see who needs to be fired and who to be hired!



That's pretty obvious. Paul Ryan. The SOB gives Nancy Pelosi Democrat lessons in his spare time. He isn't even a RINO; he is a Democrat in Principle; So Hypocritical It Is Transformational. I believe the acronym for that is DIPSHIIT.

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Mar 25, 2017 06:36:02   #
eden
 
Loki wrote:
That's pretty obvious. Paul Ryan. The SOB gives Nancy Pelosi Democrat lessons in his spare time. He isn't even a RINO; he is a Democrat in Principle; So Hypocritical It Is Transformational. I believe the acronym for that is DIPSHIIT.


You people are so funny. What kind of failure on this mans part will finally open your eyes. Does he have to shoot somebody on camera like he said or will you find a way to explain that away too?

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Mar 25, 2017 06:43:41   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
eden wrote:
You people are so funny. What kind of failure on this mans part will finally open your eyes. Does he have to shoot somebody on camera like he said or will you find a way to explain that away too?


It always amazes me when the left goes after Trump when Obama was give a wink for doing multiples of what Trump is doing. Trump is at least doing a lot of good for this Country.

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Mar 25, 2017 07:12:55   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
eden wrote:
You people are so funny. What kind of failure on this mans part will finally open your eyes. Does he have to shoot somebody on camera like he said or will you find a way to explain that away too?


He hasn't failed at anything. The Ninth's ruling on his travel ban will be overturned by SCOTUS. This is a given, since he was operating entirely within the boundaries of 8 USC 1182(f).
The wall is already in it's beginning stages. Trump is operating under the last year of Obama's budget and will be until September 30, just as Obama had to operate mostly within the constraints of the last Bush budget. Trump is cutting away government fat.
In case you haven't looked; deportations are up, and illegal entries are down. The Border Patrol is being much better funded now.

Obama failed for 8 years and you people kept your eyes closed.

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Mar 25, 2017 07:18:52   #
eden
 
bylm1 wrote:
It always amazes me when the left goes after Trump when Obama was give a wink for doing multiples of what Trump is doing. Trump is at least doing a lot of good for this Country.


I am not a leftie but the rabid right cut Obama no slack. Agreed Trump has done a lot of good...especially waking up people to what life will be like under an authoritarian Putinesque
Populist faux democracy.

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Mar 25, 2017 07:31:04   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
eden wrote:
I am not a leftie but the rabid right cut Obama no slack. Agreed Trump has done a lot of good...especially waking up people to what life will be like under an authoritarian Putinesque
Populist faux democracy.


Ah, another Putin basher. Maybe you preferred Yeltsin or Andropov? At least under Obama we had the freedom to decide whether we were men or women, regardless of the plumbing we were born with. At least under Obama, he tried his best to guarantee a nuclear Iran so we would sleep sounder at night. At least under Obama we could sleep more soundly at night, knowing tens of thousands of wetback criminals were released back onto US streets rather than being deported; because deporting foreign felons who commit crimes on US soil against US citizens would be mean.
At least under Obama we had Obamacare, so we could "keep our doctors," keep our medical insurance," and see our premiums drop by $2500 per year.

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Mar 25, 2017 07:41:31   #
eden
 
Loki wrote:
He hasn't failed at anything. The Ninth's ruling on his travel ban will be overturned by SCOTUS. This is a given, since he was operating entirely within the boundaries of 8 USC 1182(f).
The wall is already in it's beginning stages. Trump is operating under the last year of Obama's budget and will be until September 30, just as Obama had to operate mostly within the constraints of the last Bush budget. Trump is cutting away government fat.
In case you haven't looked; deportations are up, and illegal entries are down. The Border Patrol is being much better funded now.

Obama failed for 8 years and you people kept your eyes closed.
He hasn't failed at anything. The Ninth's ruling o... (show quote)


Seems like he just failed at shutting down Obamacare per his oft repeated promise but I'm sure you can "splain" us folks on that.
Seems like I heard more illegal aliens were deported under Obama than any previous President or was that just "fake news" too?
But ask any person on the street if they consider undocumented aliens a bigger problem than the threat to their healthcare and they will probably say the latter. As usual in the reactive echo chamber of American politics the symptoms are being attacked but not the underlying disease. The inconvenient truth is that aliens come here because Americans want cheap labor and the obvious answer is to provide some sort of guest worker scheme but that is not a palatable solution to the macho law and order crowd. An interesting parallel is the illegal drug trade. No demand... no supply, but that's an argument for another topic.

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Mar 25, 2017 08:09:03   #
badbob85037
 
I didn't want these Republicans giving me their version of obama care. I wanted them to end it and allow me to manage my own health care. The only thing I want government to do for me is to leave me alone. Stop tapping my phone. I'm not or will I ever be a terrorist. I, unlike these progressives will not trade any of my freedoms for your false security. You see how these Leftist have fought tooth and nail to stop Trumps travel ban? That tells me they don't care if you are killed by terrorist as long as we bow down to NWO. The faster they can make the nation some third world hell hole the faster we will beg for one world government. There hasn't been two parties in this country in at least 30 years. The Left isn't a political party. It's a group of branch bait traitors with low IQed idiots that blindly follow what ever rotten policy they want to enact as long as these wastes of good dirt get an extra food stamp. The sooner we realize that the sooner we can destroy this wart on the ass of our country. A political party will look for ways to compromise for the good of the people. What these traitors do is obstruct. They obstruct everything so the nation fails and then put the blame on the other party. What you have to do to solve the problem is open an investigation on obama. There is enough to have him rot in a prison the rest of his life or just execute him. Schumer wants to use his criminal ways to stop the appointments of the Trump administration. You get a few service members together , grab Schumer and while doing so go ahead and grab the rest of the ones saying to hell with America our goal is to destroy the Federal Government you take them to the nearest wall, line up the heroes in our military with their weapons. Ready. Aim, Fire. If like Schumer and not worth the bullet a club will have the same results while giving the user more enjoyment An out right revolution is what is needed and by the end of the day some of us may feel we have gotten some pay back of these tyrants.

Democrats are not a political party. No where in our Constitution are any of these treasonous tree stump's goals, including the Affordable Care Act. You know just because Fonda and Kerry are breathing air doesn't mean we no longer have punishment for treason. I'll even furnish the ammunition.

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Mar 25, 2017 08:25:49   #
badbob85037
 
eden wrote:
Seems like he just failed at shutting down Obamacare per his oft repeated promise but I'm sure you can "splain" us folks on that.
Seems like I heard more illegal aliens were deported under Obama than any previous President or was that just "fake news" too?
But ask any person on the street if they consider undocumented aliens a bigger problem than the threat to their healthcare and they will probably say the latter. As usual in the reactive echo chamber of American politics the symptoms are being attacked but not the underlying disease. The inconvenient truth is that aliens come here because Americans want cheap labor and the obvious answer is to provide some sort of guest worker scheme but that is not a palatable solution to the macho law and order crowd. An interesting parallel is the illegal drug trade. No demand... no supply, but that's an argument for another topic.
Seems like he just failed at shutting down Obamaca... (show quote)


No an American will say get the hell out of my life and I will take care of my own health care. Because unlike the left we don't need or want government to be in our life. While the useless Left need government to be their mama and daddy.We don't need to be told when to wipe or how many ply to use when doing the wiping. All that has gotten the Left is stinky fingers and the habit of biting their fingernails. Trump should just cut food stamps then in a couple of weeks they would starve.

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Mar 25, 2017 10:35:45   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Loki wrote:
That's pretty obvious. Paul Ryan. The SOB gives Nancy Pelosi Democrat lessons in his spare time. He isn't even a RINO; he is a Democrat in Principle; So Hypocritical It Is Transformational. I believe the acronym for that is DIPSHIIT.


I think he's just a typical Republican that wants big government 'his way'.

I guess it's easy to be drawn into the thought that the problem with America is that you're not the one in charge.

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Mar 25, 2017 10:48:14   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Super Dave wrote:
Trump doesn't seem the type to make that mistake again.

I hope not.

He's made a lot of Conservative decisions since he became POTUS. This was his first really liberal decision, and it's ending should have been predicted.

Obamacare is a failure because it's liberal.

You Trumpsters should quietly thank the conservatives that stopped Trump from putting that failure on his lap.


SD-Agree ! Pulling this bill is a blessing in disguise. Would have shifted onus onto the GOP since bill increased
premiums for first two years. Lets see what the dems do when the ACA implodes. America First !!!

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Mar 25, 2017 11:35:51   #
S. Maturin
 
Ricko wrote:
SD-Agree ! Pulling this bill is a blessing in disguise. Would have shifted onus onto the GOP since bill increased
premiums for first two years. Lets see what the dems do when the ACA implodes. America First !!!


I cannot help but think this is part of a design.

It is obvious the 'DC Elites' that Trump railed against are still in DC and are willing to fly their flag of the progressive movement and just think- now the general public has proof the republicans tried to get that killing Obama plan out of our lives.
So, think on it; When the OBAMA DISASTER really does crash and burn (remember democrats built it and own it 100%) how will that be? Sure the propaganda media will work overtime to make the 'useful idiots' scream the failing democrat program is all Trump's fault, but even the dumbest of the dumb should se the truth when it slams into their absolute survival, one would imagine.

If it is a strategy, it might just be genius. We'll see, won't we?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/24/sean-spicer-gop-health-care-bill-vote-cancellation-trump-obamacare

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Mar 25, 2017 11:49:27   #
Carol Kelly
 
America Only wrote:
Yes you are correct it was best to have this bill redone....but it also allows Trump to see who needs to be fired and who to be hired!


I agree, but let's get on with it-the firing and the hiring. I'd like to see what Dr. Price had drawn up for health care. Just maybe some of the physicians now in government could come up with a plan closer to reality than Obamacare. As long as we have millions on the dole, we'll never have an efficient healthcare system and can we get government control out of the picture? Some of us don't run to the doctor or Emergency Room everytime we have a headache or stomach ache. If you must pay for your insurance and a co-pay each visit, things might change. Just saying!

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