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Mar 25, 2017 05:21:20   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't need to make a deal with you to maintain my own practice of waiting for evidence and rulings... For instance, you won't find any posts from me that accuse Trump of doing things that haven't been proved, but most of what people attack Trump for are his declared intentions. For instance, what proof do we have to wait for to accuse him of wanting to build a wall?

To be honest, I don't care that he's a pompous asshole... that's not the problem I have with him. The problem I have with him lies in his stated intentions and the actions he has so far taken which clearly violate the laws and the spirit of a nation that was a LOT greater 3 months ago.
I don't need to make a deal with you to maintain m... (show quote)


You have not supplied any evidence in your post to support that Trump is guilty of Treason. However there is evidence that Obama committed a treasonous act, he "gave aid and comfort to the enemy", by releasing terrorists for one American deserter. This is a clear, text book, definition of treason according to Article three of the United States Constitution.

Show me the evidence that Donald Trump committed an act of treason as defined by Article three of the Constitution. To bring a charge of treason against anyone, let alone a sitting president, you need concrete, indisputable evidence. To date there is no evidence that can support such a charge.

You stated that,
straightUp wrote:
In any case, none of the events you've listed can legally justify an impeachment. They are just unfortunate events that you like to blame Obama for. Trump, on the other hand has already crossed legal lines that make him impeachable and he's only been in office for two months. For instance, when he sat at a crowded dinner and ordered an attack on Yemen with his side of potatoes he forgot to check the international agreements on the conduct of war. It turns out his attack violated terms that the U.S. ratified and under the U.S. Constitution an international agreement ratified by the U.S. is to be considered "the law of the land". So he violated the U.S.Constitution. That makes him impeachable and that's just ONE of MANY examples.
In any case, none of the events you've listed can ... (show quote)


Where is this evidence? I have been scanning the news since the first of the year, and no where in the news is the story you are relating here. Therefore, I will ask you the following questions based upon your story:

1. Who reported the story? What were the names of the eyewitnesses? Is the story credible and why did it not hit the major news networks?

2. There is a standing order since 9/11/2001 that "Any country harboring terrorists or assisting terrorists, are enemies of the United States." This gives the United States, and the Commander-in-Chief, authority to attack on any soil, the enemies of the United States regardless of international law. This order was agreed upon by NATO and the Security Council of the United Nations in 2001. Now my question is this, if Trump is guilty of violating International Law, what UN Security Council or NATO Law did he violate? I stated the standing order from 9/11/2001, state the violation.

3. Donald Trump has been call many names in the media, yet no court action (aside from the court action against his constitutional right to the illegal immigration law) has been challenged. With that being said, if the said evidence of treason is legitimate, why hasn't anyone accused and charged the president with this crime? And where are the arraignment documents, the grand jury indictment, the House and Senate procedures charging him with treason?

Since there is no evidence that you suggest of his alleged treason, and since no grand jury or arraignment has been made, due to lack of evidence, and since there is no evidence the House cannot accuse him, and the Senate cannot convict him. Therefore, you have nothing, unless evidence comes to light if there is anything.

Yes, I do support Trump, however, if there is evidence that he committed treason, I too will want to see him prosecuted to the full extent of the law, that includes death. However, there is no evidence, instead there is evidence of the Obama administration spying on the president-elect. Now, Obama at this point cannot be charged. So who unmasked the classified material.

Since there is no clear and concrete evidence that Trump violated Article Three, section three of the Constitution, which clearly states:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attained.


Present the evidence so we can review it. If not give up the argument of impeachment and treason.

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Mar 25, 2017 10:12:46   #
Glaucon
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Where is this evidence? I have been scanning the news since the first of the year, and no where in the news is the story you are relating here. Therefore, I will ask you the following questions based upon your story:

1. Who reported the story? What were the names of the eyewitnesses? Is the story credible and why did it not hit the major news networks?

2. There is a standing order since 9/11/2001 that "Any country harboring terrorists or assisting terrorists, are enemies of the United States." This gives the United States, and the Commander-in-Chief, authority to attack on any soil, the enemies of the United States regardless of international law. This order was agreed upon by NATO and the Security Council of the United Nations in 2001. Now my question is this, if Trump is guilty of violating International Law, what UN Security Council or NATO Law did he violate? I stated the standing order from 9/11/2001, state the violation.

3. Donald Trump has been call many names in the media, yet no court action (aside from the court action against his constitutional right to the illegal immigration law) has been challenged. With that being said, if the said evidence of treason is legitimate, why hasn't anyone accused and charged the president with this crime? And where are the arraignment documents, the grand jury indictment, the House and Senate procedures charging him with treason?

Since there is no evidence that you suggest of his alleged treason, and since no grand jury or arraignment has been made, due to lack of evidence, and since there is no evidence the House cannot accuse him, and the Senate cannot convict him. Therefore, you have nothing, unless evidence comes to light if there is anything.

Yes, I do support Trump, however, if there is evidence that he committed treason, I too will want to see him prosecuted to the full extent of the law, that includes death. However, there is no evidence, instead there is evidence of the Obama administration spying on the president-elect. Now, Obama at this point cannot be charged. So who unmasked the classified material.

Since there is no clear and concrete evidence that Trump violated Article Three, section three of the Constitution, which clearly states:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attained.


Present the evidence so we can review it. If not give up the argument of impeachment and treason.
Where is this evidence? I have been scanning the n... (show quote)


The evidence is clear, but you won't find it in the Enquirer or Fox, wake up, pay attention and try to manage your emotions.

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Mar 25, 2017 10:30:57   #
Big Bass
 
son of witless wrote:
There are no proven treasonous acts. All the media has is speculation. You have even less than that. All you have is wishful thinking.

There are no proven treasonous acts. All the media... (show quote)


It's a libturd smokescreen, as they are trying to keep obumbum's illegitimacy out of the spotlight.

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Mar 25, 2017 11:26:26   #
Glaucon
 
Big Bass wrote:
It's a libturd smokescreen, as they are trying to keep obumbum's illegitimacy out of the spotlight.


You obviously hate the black guy, but there is no question that is and was legitimate and cute names for Obama will not make him illegitimate. Wake up, inform yourself and learn to meditate. Also, a high colonic might be necessary.

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Mar 25, 2017 11:39:04   #
Big Bass
 
Glaucon wrote:
You obviously hate the black guy, but there is no question that is and was legitimate and cute names for Obama will not make him illegitimate. Wake up, inform yourself and learn to meditate. Also, a high colonic might be necessary.


You are now telling me to hate obumbum. We have always realized you are a promulgator of hatred, along with your racism. You have no need to constantly prove all this.

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Mar 25, 2017 11:40:12   #
Glaucon
 
Big Bass wrote:
You are now telling me to hate obumbum. We have always realized you are a promulgator of hatred, along with your racism. You have no need to constantly prove all this.


salad talk?

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Mar 25, 2017 11:45:05   #
Big Bass
 
Glaucon wrote:
salad talk?

Not necessary. Would it make your miserable little life easier, if I used words of no more than one syllable?

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Mar 25, 2017 11:48:08   #
Glaucon
 
Big Bass wrote:
Not necessary. Would it make your miserable little life easier, if I used words of no more than one syllable?


It would if you knew any. Your mental functioning doesn't require big words to express intself.

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Mar 25, 2017 11:53:36   #
Big Bass
 
Glaucon wrote:
It would if you knew any. Your mental functioning doesn't require big words to express intself.


My "intself" doesn't function when dealing with the sub-moronic.

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Mar 25, 2017 12:21:30   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
If he is as guilty as you say he is take it to court.

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Mar 25, 2017 12:30:52   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Glaucon wrote:
The evidence is clear, but you won't find it in the Enquirer or Fox, wake up, pay attention and try to manage your emotions.


Wake up? Where's the evidence? If you think Trump is guilty, take him to court. Otherwise what you post is not only slander but also gossip. You will be no different than the enquirer or fox.

If you don't.bring it.to court, then not only.are you spreading rumors or gossip, but.you are slandering the president. That is a crime. I called you out. "The evidence is obvious" is no evidence at all. Provide the evidence here for public opinion to shift in your direction. But even if public opinion shifts, nothing will be done until it goes to court. Provide the evidence.

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Mar 25, 2017 12:42:13   #
Glaucon
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Wake up? Where's the evidence? If you think Trump is guilty, take him to court. Otherwise what you post is not only slander but also gossip. You will be no different than the enquirer or fox.

If you don't.bring it.to court, then not only.are you spreading rumors or gossip, but.you are slandering the president. That is a crime. I called you out. "The evidence is obvious" is no evidence at all. Provide the evidence here for public opinion to shift in your direction. But even if public opinion shifts, nothing will be done until it goes to court. Provide the evidence.
Wake up? Where's the evidence? If you think Trump ... (show quote)


Where were you when Obama was born in Kenya? Trump will go to court in good time. Right now, he is beyond reproach to you and the rest of his mindless and devoted tools. You don't need to pay very close attention, just pay some attention.

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Mar 25, 2017 12:44:18   #
Glaucon
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
If he is as guilty as you say he is take it to court.


That will happen. One after another of his gang member thugs will take the fall and then the gang leader. Have patience and pay attention.

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Mar 25, 2017 12:48:18   #
Big Bass
 
Glaucon wrote:
That will happen. One after another of his gang member thugs will take the fall and then the gang leader. Have patience and pay attention.


Here's a list of all Trump's ant-American activities. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPS!! It's OBUMBUM.
http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/01/26/a-list-of-obamas-accomplishments-as-the-first-black-president-of-the-usa/

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Mar 25, 2017 13:52:07   #
Glaucon
 
Big Bass wrote:
Here's a list of all Trump's ant-American activities. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPS!! It's OBUMBUM.
http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/01/26/a-list-of-obamas-accomplishments-as-the-first-black-president-of-the-usa/
Here's a list of all Trump's ant-American activiti... (show quote)


Yes, Obama is black.

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