robmull Loc: florida

I believe what's "pathetic," Dr. Gross, is the few hundred million {and counting} who have died, world wide, to activate socialism; and, "What's the difference between socialism and communism?" asks Glenn Beck; "about a year and a half!!! Hummmmmmmmmmmmm. What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R); JUST LIK THE WEATHER!!!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

From the internet, Don:

The above list of steps for “How to create a social state” is not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, nor does it even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about “controlling health care” is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of “increasing the poverty level as high as possible” is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve). This list is simply a modern variant of the decades-old, apocryphal Communist Rules for Revolution piece that was originally passed along without attribution until Alinsky’s name became attached to it (presumably because someone out there thought it sounded like something Alinsky might have written).

The closest analog (in form, if not in content) to your above-reproduced list of “How to create a social state” to be found in the writings of Saul Alinsky is the following list of “power tactics” Alinsky outlined in his 1971 book Rules for Radicals. Note that Alinsky’s list is devoted solely to tactics (i.e., methods for accomplishing goals) and does not specify any particular targets of those tactics (e.g., health care, religion, gun control):

Always remember the first rule of power tactics: Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counter-side; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying “You’re right — we don’t know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us.”

The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

vernon

You finally said something that made sense!

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Meals on wheels - receives only 10-15% in Federal Funds. Their predominant funding is through state and local funding, private plus donations. (My cousin is Director for a Meals on Wheels)
after school programs are predominantly funded through the local school boards
[i]unemployment benefits[/] - are funded through taxes by employers into their state unemployment fund. Federal funds are only involved when Federal Unemployment extended benefits are in effect. (I spent ten years doing unemployment, both state and federal)
food stamps are severely abused and more money should be allocated for enforcement of fraud penalties

Bring it on. You are not addressing someone who has not studied the issues. Your perception is based on the MSM. My answer to your basis of what the media tells you is...

okie don

Look at Detroit,MI.
looks like an atom bomb went off!
Cheeeeeez

okie don

Thanks slatten, luv you Texans. I lived in San Antonio 10 yrs, miss Texas.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Thank you, Don. You've always exhibited class, as far as I'm concerned, towards me.

okie don

[quote=AuntiE]Meals on wheels - receives only 10-15% in Federal Funds. Their predominant funding is through state and local funding, private plus donations. (My cousin is Director for a Meals on Wheels)
after school programs are predominantly funded through the local school boards
[i]unemployment benefits[/] - are funded through taxes by employers into their state unemployment fund. Federal funds are only involved when Federal Unemployment extended benefits are in effect. (I spent ten years doing unemployment, both state and federal)
food stamps are severely abused and more money should be allocated for enforcement of fraud penalties

Bring it on. You are not addressing someone who has not studied the issues. Your perception is ba
sed on the MSM. My answer to your basis of what the media tells you is...[/quote]
AntiE,
Dr Gross, cross, whatever he calls himself, watches CNN{ Clinton News Network} and daily KOS.
Talk about falling off a beet truck.Cheeeeeez(:

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

[quote=AuntiE]Meals on wheels - receives only 10-15% in Federal Funds. Their predominant funding is through state and local funding, private plus donations. (My cousin is Director for a Meals on Wheels)
after school programs are predominantly funded through the local school boards
[i]unemployment benefits[/] - are funded through taxes by employers into their state unemployment fund. Federal funds are only involved when Federal Unemployment extended benefits are in effect. (I spent ten years doing unemployment, both state and federal)
food stamps are severely abused and more money should be allocated for enforcement of fraud penalties

Bring it on. You are not addressing someone who has not studied the issues. Your perception is based on the MSM. My answer to your basis of what the media tells you is...[/quote]
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I had a "meals on wheels" delivered to me just once...in Virginia. I believe it was Brunswick Stew, and it was wonderfully PRICELESS I was even served seconds.

The delivery lady was a saucy gal.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

One can only hope you were provided with appropriate accoutrements for your Brunswick Stew.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

My companions and the accoutrements were 'par excellence.'

Loki Loc: Georgia

Nothing like a good saucier.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

From what's I've heard and understand, you should know.

ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

Wow!
Excellent posts gentlemen.
It appears you have driven the liberal worms back under their rocks once again.

Kudos

bahmer

Spot on AuntiE.