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Mar 21, 2017 00:29:27   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 



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Mar 21, 2017 00:58:58   #
Dr.Dross
 
AuntiE wrote:


So tired of this. How does that translate in general? Meals on wheels, after school programs, unemployment benefits, food stamps, and so forth are "socialist" so end them? Have you any estimate on how many people starved to death, died of neglect, or were lost to crime because of this lack of "socialism"? A welfare state is not socialism. Educate yourself. Stop spewing Right Wing talking points. Think this way: do I want my neighbor to suffer or die because of lack in this land of plenty? The Right consistently gives the impression that people getting entitlements are mostly scum. Try losing your job in an industry that has moved to China. Romney practically invented this practice. My urge here is to explode with outrage at your ignorant comment. But, as Jesus said, you know not what you do. You just blindly follow ideology. "Socialism...yuck! Evil! Un-American! Destroy it!" You are sadly clueless.

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Mar 21, 2017 01:26:51   #
okie don
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
So tired of this. How does that translate in general? Meals on wheels, after school programs, unemployment benefits, food stamps, and so forth are "socialist" so end them? Have you any estimate on how many people starved to death, died of neglect, or were lost to crime because of this lack of "socialism"? A welfare state is not socialism. Educate yourself. Stop spewing Right Wing talking points. Think this way: do I want my neighbor to suffer or die because of lack in this land of plenty? The Right consistently gives the impression that people getting entitlements are mostly scum. Try losing your job in an industry that has moved to China. Romney practically invented this practice. My urge here is to explode with outrage at your ignorant comment. But, as Jesus said, you know not what you do. You just blindly follow ideology. "Socialism...yuck! Evil! Un-American! Destroy it!" You are sadly clueless.
So tired of this. How does that translate in gener... (show quote)


Clueless, really! AuntE is CLUELESS. Hmmm

Guess your aware of the 8 steps to convert a Democracy into a Marxist/Socialist/Communistic society,like Cuba,
North Korea and Red China,Huh

Since you signed in as a DR why not lay out the 8 Eight steps of Saul Alinsky's Plan for us Doc.
You know the ones about:
1. controlling Health Care
2. Poverty- increase it
3. National Debt- increase it
4. Gun Control
5. Welfare- increase it
6. Education - control it
7. Religion- remove G*d from schools, military
8. Class Warfare black vs white.

Come on Doc, show us your brilliance on the final thesis Hillary Clinton did in college
we're waiting Professor (:

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Mar 21, 2017 01:56:48   #
Dr.Dross
 
okie don wrote:
Clueless, really! AuntE is CLUELESS. Hmmm

Guess your aware of the 8 steps to convert a Democracy into a Marxist/Socialist/Communistic society,like Cuba,
North Korea and Red China,Huh

Since you signed in as a DR why not lay out the 8 Eight steps of Saul Alinsky's Plan for us Doc.
You know the ones about:
1. controlling Health Care
2. Poverty- increase it
3. National Debt- increase it
4. Gun Control
5. Welfare- increase it
6. Education - control it
7. Religion- remove G*d from schools, military
8. Class Warfare black vs white.

Come on Doc, show us your brilliance on the final thesis Hillary Clinton did in college
we're waiting Professor (:
Clueless, really! AuntE is CLUELESS. Hmmm br br ... (show quote)


Too funny. Let them eat cake, then. You guys are pathetic with your conspiracy theories.

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Mar 21, 2017 02:27:17   #
okie don
 
Go read the Alinsky Plan Dross like I have and carefully analyze it.
There are eight (8) steps.
As Hillary about it. She did her final; college thesis on it...
I have spent 16 years reading and researching since I retired as to what the hell is going on.
I am an Independent and have no dog in the Demo Repub thing.
Bush in-acted NDAA { National Defense Authorization Act} aka" Patriot Act'' so you and I can
be arrested and put in a FEMA CAMP as a ' domestic terrorist' without a trial by a jury of our peers!
The 9-11 was an inside job by our own government { CIA} and Israel { Mossaud}{to set up
an enemy ISIS that CIA and You, Mr Taxpayer, funded.
"All wars are bankers wars" and they needed another ' war' against someone to satisfy the
Military Industrial Complex Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell speech in 1961. I was
age 23 then and remember the speech he gave. Do You?

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Mar 21, 2017 02:34:43   #
okie don
 
I may be a tad bit older than you, don't really know but I remember J F Kennedy's
assassination. In the Army in Japan working for the NSA with a Top Secret Security clearance
Someone ran in the barrack shouting " The president has been killed ".
This was shortly after the bay of Pigs invasion and when we came damn close to a war with
Russia.
What got Kennedy killed?
1. He wanted out of Viet Nam,
2. He wanted to dis-band the CIA who follows directives of the Rothschild's and
3. He issued EO 11110 and started printing \
our own currency - silver backed and the Rothschild's
got pissed. So, JFK got ' capped' as they call it...

You know who really controls America, of course you do
the Rothschild banking oligarchy in the City of London { fiat currency } and the Rockefeller's { oil}

Don't tell me you haven't figured all this out (:

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Mar 21, 2017 02:38:34   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
So tired of this. How does that translate in general? Meals on wheels, after school programs, unemployment benefits, food stamps, and so forth are "socialist" so end them? Have you any estimate on how many people starved to death, died of neglect, or were lost to crime because of this lack of "socialism"? A welfare state is not socialism. Educate yourself. Stop spewing Right Wing talking points. Think this way: do I want my neighbor to suffer or die because of lack in this land of plenty? The Right consistently gives the impression that people getting entitlements are mostly scum. Try losing your job in an industry that has moved to China. Romney practically invented this practice. My urge here is to explode with outrage at your ignorant comment. But, as Jesus said, you know not what you do. You just blindly follow ideology. "Socialism...yuck! Evil! Un-American! Destroy it!" You are sadly clueless.
So tired of this. How does that translate in gener... (show quote)


Meals on wheels will not even be affected by anything done by the Trump Budget, nor will after school programs. In fact all of your whine is just that. Typical BS from you lefties that are mere commies at best.

A note that you lame idiots always chimed up was, under Obama EVERYTHING was just grand! Jobs and all WAY on up there...yeah right. BUT then when someone comes along and states we need to cut some fat off the budget and even suggest any programs that give free shit, you clowns start screaming about it! So the reality is what? Things are not so hunky dory economy wise. Your Black Kenyan King Barry did NOT bring the USA out of poverty as YOU and your midget minded dinks, stated...the proof? You DEMAND that everyone gets a free handout because they are broke and cannot afford anything. HYPOCRITE or what?

The issue should be, you lazy fart faced no good democraps need to be run out of this Nation..or more along the lines of complete extermination. Now what can that do for our budget? Crime would almost not even exist any longer. Jobs would increase to some degree. Less burden on our Farmers to feed a lesser population. NO riots. NO cop killing as we all know you Blacks are behind THAT! Plenty of excess money for Meals On Wheels for the elderly. After school programs could be afforded to expand, and they could even have a PRAYER meeting as well. Less lines or a wait at the Doctor's offices for those that need to use their insurance and the cost of insurance would be lowered immediately. I could go on...but factually it sounds like the best plan ever to apply in this day and age. This Nation just flat out does not need garbage like you in it any longer. and to get things all better, would be just that simple. Get rid of all you dip stick democraps! PARTY TIME!

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Mar 21, 2017 02:45:44   #
Dr.Dross
 
okie don wrote:
Go read the Alinsky Plan Dross like I have and carefully analyze it.
There are eight (8) steps.
As Hillary about it. She did her final; college thesis on it...
I have spent 16 years reading and researching since I retired as to what the hell is going on.
I am an Independent and have no dog in the Demo Repub thing.
Bush in-acted NDAA { National Defense Authorization Act} aka" Patriot Act'' so you and I can
be arrested and put in a FEMA CAMP as a ' domestic terrorist' without a trial by a jury of our peers!
The 9-11 was an inside job by our own government { CIA} and Israel { Mossaud}{to set up
an enemy ISIS that CIA and You, Mr Taxpayer, funded.
"All wars are bankers wars" and they needed another ' war' against someone to satisfy the
Military Industrial Complex Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell speech in 1961. I was
age 23 then and remember the speech he gave. Do You?
Go read the Alinsky Plan Dross like I have and car... (show quote)


That some social necessity is incorporated, does not mean a OWO.

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Mar 21, 2017 02:58:48   #
Dr.Dross
 
America Only wrote:
Meals on wheels will not even be affected by anything done by the Trump Budget, nor will after school programs. In fact all of your whine is just that. Typical BS from you lefties that are mere commies at best.

A note that you lame idiots always chimed up was, under Obama EVERYTHING was just grand! Jobs and all WAY on up there...yeah right. BUT then when someone comes along and states we need to cut some fat off the budget and even suggest any programs that give free shit, you clowns start screaming about it! So the reality is what? Things are not so hunky dory economy wise. Your Black Kenyan King Barry did NOT bring the USA out of poverty as YOU and your midget minded dinks, stated...the proof? You DEMAND that everyone gets a free handout because they are broke and cannot afford anything. HYPOCRITE or what?

The issue should be, you lazy fart faced no good democraps need to be run out of this Nation..or more along the lines of complete extermination. Now what can that do for our budget? Crime would almost not even exist any longer. Jobs would increase to some degree. Less burden on our Farmers to feed a lesser population. NO riots. NO cop killing as we all know you Blacks are behind THAT! Plenty of excess money for Meals On Wheels for the elderly. After school programs could be afforded to expand, and they could even have a PRAYER meeting as well. Less lines or a wait at the Doctor's offices for those that need to use their insurance and the cost of insurance would be lowered immediately. I could go on...but factually it sounds like the best plan ever to apply in this day and age. This Nation just flat out does not need garbage like you in it any longer. and to get things all better, would be just that simple. Get rid of all you dip stick democraps! PARTY TIME!
Meals on wheels will not even be affected by anyth... (show quote)


1.6 million children, in a program that has SHOWN to be helpful, will be cut. Meals on wheels will be cut, that has SHOWN to be significantly helpful, will be cut.

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Mar 21, 2017 03:11:27   #
okie don
 
You ain't seen nothing yet.
We are $20 Trillion bucks in debt ' buttercup' Gross.
Who's gonna pay this? Your kids and grand kids?
Or do yiou have andy kids and grand kids? I do!!!

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Mar 21, 2017 03:15:10   #
okie don
 
The rightful Sovereign American taxpayers get ' short sheet-ed' compared
to these illegals crossing our borders uninpinged and all the Muslims being
brought in by 'Obie '
I see GI's here on the streets in Tulsa. Homeless and unemployed.
Q. Who is truly entitled to some assistance GI's who served their nation
or these imports and illegals from Latin America?

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Mar 21, 2017 03:22:44   #
Dr.Dross
 
okie don wrote:
You ain't seen nothing yet.
We are $20 Trillion bucks in debt ' buttercup' Gross.
Who's gonna pay this? Your kids and grand kids?
Or do yiou have andy kids and grand kids? I do!!!


Let them starve is a great solution. Give a tax break to the elite is a great laugh in their face. Less people sucking off the public teat to feed their illegitimate children spawned for freebies by the government makes that tax break humane, a good chuckle; it will help save the country for the good people. Screw 'em, those leeches.

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Mar 21, 2017 05:26:26   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Let them starve is a great solution. Give a tax break to the elite is a great laugh in their face. Less people sucking off the public teat to feed their illegitimate children spawned for freebies by the government makes that tax break humane, a good chuckle; it will help save the country for the good people. Screw 'em, those leeches.


Drug and alcohol testing for benefit recipients. Also tobacco use. If you can afford cigarettes, beer and drugs, you can buy your own food. No more medical care for illegals unless it is truly life threatening. No more "birth citizenship" for wetbacks; already illegal under US law.
Elk v Wilkins 1885, US v Wong Kim Ark 1898.

Most of the tax breaks the truly wealthy enjoy were passed by your precious Liberal Democrats, who count more millionaires among their number than do their evil Republican counterparts.
In 2012, Evil Corporations donated more money to Democrats than to Republicans. I guess they were just feeling patriotic. Heaven forfend they expected a little quid pro quo.
Ditto for Wall Street; 2012 saw them donate a record amount to Obama's re-election. They just couldn't wait to have ol' Obiwan Obama put the financial screws to their corporate asses.
Hillary Clinton got some 25 million bucks at least from the Saudis. I suppose they felt all guilty about horsewhipping rape victims because they tempted poor, innocent men.

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Mar 21, 2017 07:05:11   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
So tired of this. How does that translate in general? Meals on wheels, after school programs, unemployment benefits, food stamps, and so forth are "socialist" so end them? Have you any estimate on how many people starved to death, died of neglect, or were lost to crime because of this lack of "socialism"? A welfare state is not socialism. Educate yourself. Stop spewing Right Wing talking points. Think this way: do I want my neighbor to suffer or die because of lack in this land of plenty? The Right consistently gives the impression that people getting entitlements are mostly scum. Try losing your job in an industry that has moved to China. Romney practically invented this practice. My urge here is to explode with outrage at your ignorant comment. But, as Jesus said, you know not what you do. You just blindly follow ideology. "Socialism...yuck! Evil! Un-American! Destroy it!" You are sadly clueless.
So tired of this. How does that translate in gener... (show quote)



You say you are tired of this. What is it you are tired of? Is it democracy? Is it laws? Is it our leaders trying to protect our Country? If you are so sold on Socialism, how about listing some success stories? Which countries would you like to pattern our Country after? Conservatives are not against social programs that are needed and can best be administered by the Federal Government. The problem is the Federal Government is out of control. Liberals couch everything in terms of conservatives being against poor people if they don't agree with any program that liberals deem to help poor people, even if they are flawed. You never will admit that any of these social welfare programs are not good. According to the left, any social ill can be solved by throwing money at the problem. A typical Alinski tactic is to accuse the right of doing exactly what the left does and then deny, deny and deny some more. Do you think all of the wealthiest people are Republicans? If so, you're completely nuts. The 20 trillions that we are in debt is not due to tax breaks for the wealthy. It would be fine to debate some of these issues but debating with liberals is out of the question.

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Mar 21, 2017 07:13:39   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Let them starve is a great solution. Give a tax break to the elite is a great laugh in their face. Less people sucking off the public teat to feed their illegitimate children spawned for freebies by the government makes that tax break humane, a good chuckle; it will help save the country for the good people. Screw 'em, those leeches.



Those Democrat policies have really been great, haven't they. Do you know what the 20 poorest cities all have in common? They all have Democrat administrations. Why do you suppose this is? Since 1960, the 29 Congresses have held Democrat majorities 20 times to 9 Republican majorities in the House and 20 to 10 in the Senate. Would you like to explain how you can blame the condition of this Country and its tax laws on Republicans? There is only one explanation - The Democrats like it the way it is.

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