JFlorio wrote:
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I think you may be a bit hard on the CBO. Yes, they were off on the Obamacare estimates. In fact, way off. But that does not lessen the need for some type of critical financial analysis on any type of new government plan. (Irrespective of the fact that most government plans probably should not be implemented in the first place).

You tell me what the stock market will be a year from now, based upon all the analytical data that you want to utilize. Let's see how accurate that prediction turns out to be.

The two takeaways that I got from the CBO report are as follows:

1. 14 million more people will be uninsured by 2018. ( Probably correct. Young people will voluntarily choose to defer purchasing insurance because A) there is no penalty, and B) If they find they need it because, say, they contract cancer 10 years from now, the 30% surcharge penalty is peanuts when they saved 10 years of premiums).

2) The legislation would reduce federal deficits by $337 billion over the next decade, with the largest savings coming from reductions in Medicaid outlays and the reduction of Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies. Also, less people electing coverage means less federal subsidies.

Obamacare was bad Healthcare policy. Ryancare is bad Healthcare policy. Repeal Obamacare effective 6 months from now, and put the burden on both parties to work together and get it right. Hold open hearings with the public and healthcare professionals. Don't have pharmaceutical and insurance lobbyist groups write legislation behind closed doors which is how Obamacare and Ryancare were created.

There are plenty of good ideas out there to reduce the cost of healthcare, allow price discovery, and to put the consumer in charge of his or her healthcare. The biggest impediment to good healthcare policy is corporate greed and political corruption that feed each other.

JFlorio wrote:
You may like the new plan. You may hate the new pl... (show quote)
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I think you may be a bit hard on the CBO. Yes, they were off on the Obamacare estimates. In fact, way off. But that does not lessen the need for some type of critical financial analysis on any type of new government plan. (Irrespective of the fact that most government plans probably should not be implemented in the first place).

You tell me what the stock market will be a year from now, based upon all the analytical data that you want to utilize. Let's see how accurate that prediction turns out to be.

The two takeaways that I got from the CBO report are as follows:

1. 14 million more people will be uninsured by 2018. ( Probably correct. Young people will voluntarily choose to defer purchasing insurance because A) there is no penalty, and B) If they find they need it because, say, they contract cancer 10 years from now, the 30% surcharge penalty is peanuts when they saved 10 years of premiums).

2) The legislation would reduce federal deficits by $337 billion over the next decade, with the largest savings coming from reductions in Medicaid outlays and the reduction of Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies. Also, less people electing coverage means less federal subsidies.

Obamacare was bad Healthcare policy. Ryancare is bad Healthcare policy. Repeal Obamacare effective 6 months from now, and put the burden on both parties to work together and get it right. Hold open hearings with the public and healthcare professionals. Don't have pharmaceutical and insurance lobbyist groups write legislation behind closed doors which is how Obamacare and Ryancare were created.

There are plenty of good ideas out there to reduce the cost of healthcare, allow price discovery, and to put the consumer in charge of his or her healthcare. The biggest impediment to good healthcare policy is corporate greed and political corruption that feed each other.

You may like the new plan. You may hate the new plan. Either way you should not base your choice by what the CBO says. In a nut shell their track record sucks. Scoring anything over ten year period is futile anyway, but scoring healthcare costs by the CBO over ten years is a joke. The CBO said Obamacare would result in Exchange Enrollment of 21 million. Actual number was around 10 million. They were only 120% off. CBO said Medicaid expenditures would increase by $42 billion under Obamacare. Actual number was $62 billion. Only 62% off. The CBO estimated that health insurers' would do so well under the ACA that they would pay the government back $8 billion dollars. In 2014 insurers lost $2.5 billion in the exchanges and in 2015 lost $5. 8 billion. The CBO needs abolished. A bunch of bean counters trying to look in a crystal ball and never getting the future correct. They are highly partisan and this is easily proven by looking over their favorable and unfavorable projections for different administrations. They are corrupt and another D.C. waste of tax payer monies.

You may like the new plan. You may hate the new plan. Either way you should not base your choice by what the CBO says. In a nut shell their track record sucks. Scoring anything over ten year period is futile anyway, but scoring healthcare costs by the CBO over ten years is a joke. The CBO said Obamacare would result in Exchange Enrollment of 21 million. Actual number was around 10 million. They were only 120% off. CBO said Medicaid expenditures would increase by $42 billion under Obamacare. Actual number was $62 billion. Only 62% off. The CBO estimated that health insurers' would do so well under the ACA that they would pay the government back $8 billion dollars. In 2014 insurers lost $2.5 billion in the exchanges and in 2015 lost $5. 8 billion. The CBO needs abolished. A bunch of bean counters trying to look in a crystal ball and never getting the future correct. They are highly partisan and this is easily proven by looking over their favorable and unfavorable projections for different administrations. They are corrupt and another D.C. waste of tax payer monies.

So i pay private insurance on my wife cant get the aca,her insurance has nothing get it nothing to do with aca,no mandates no nothing,i pay 750 a month 10.000 deducitable,plus copays,last year it was 625 plus 6500 deductible,last year i paid 750 for her a mamagrams.so insurance 7500 dollars me 8250 dollars,great insurance that private stuff,you with love it. this year i pay 750 for a mamugram so this year with increase i will pay 9750 dollars insurance will pay o dollars insurance and i didnt inculde doctors visits .By the way i dont pretend to be the most intelligent person in the the world ,was you bitching when insurance rates where jumping under 8 years of bush,i think around 65 to 75 percent.But golly gee i mite get to pay 12.600 dollars next year and no telling what deductible under trumpryandam im so happy with cheaper and better,bet you will to I guess ill take being a little stupid because i did vote for trump,but how can you be so intelligent and be dumb as a rock,