JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You may like the new plan. You may hate the new plan. Either way you should not base your choice by what the CBO says. In a nut shell their track record sucks. Scoring anything over ten year period is futile anyway, but scoring healthcare costs by the CBO over ten years is a joke. The CBO said Obamacare would result in Exchange Enrollment of 21 million. Actual number was around 10 million. They were only 120% off. CBO said Medicaid expenditures would increase by $42 billion under Obamacare. Actual number was $62 billion. Only 62% off. The CBO estimated that health insurers' would do so well under the ACA that they would pay the government back $8 billion dollars. In 2014 insurers lost $2.5 billion in the exchanges and in 2015 lost $5. 8 billion. The CBO needs abolished. A bunch of bean counters trying to look in a crystal ball and never getting the future correct. They are highly partisan and this is easily proven by looking over their favorable and unfavorable projections for different administrations. They are corrupt and another D.C. waste of tax payer monies.

73STNGLKABEE

So basically you have consolidated my recent beliefs in that, whatever a liberal says is true, exactly the opposite is reality. In other words, up is down, hot is cold, kind is cruel and vice.versa. I believe strongly in the old adage that if youre receiving flak, you're likely over your target. Thanks for the info.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Thanks. Love the analogy.

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

Great info ,, thanks .. All I know personally is this .. The ACA has taken money from my pocket and given me no benefit . Before the ACA I was content to pay my own health care cost . After ACA I see people who never contributed to this country given special access to funds intended for American citizens .. That' s when I went to VA for health care and my use is very limited .. anyway thanks for info ..As for CBO ,, just another unneeded bureaucrats ..

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Couldn't agree more and thank you for your service. I don't like the government telling American citizens they must purchase anything. That is not freedom but tyranny. The argument is whether or not health care is a human right. People on both sides can agree or disagree. I happen to think access to health care is a human right. I don't agree that receiving health care mandated by the government is. If it is a right then the government has the ability to force a doctor, another individual to give someone else care.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Only if you're the one that gets kicked off insurance - or one of the one's Trumps own OMB says will go as well. Take your pick.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Quit interrupting dumbass. The CBO says people will lose their insurance. Not why. Without the mandate many people may choose not to purchase insurance. Who's getting kicked off and why? You're a partisan asshole.

Ricko Loc: Florida

ipn-there is a difference between getting kicked off insurance and choosing not to buy same. However, passing this plan ,as it is being represented ,will be a mistake that the GOP will regret. America First !!!

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I agree. This plan sucks. Not as bad as the ACA but still sucks.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

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I think you may be a bit hard on the CBO. Yes, they were off on the Obamacare estimates. In fact, way off. But that does not lessen the need for some type of critical financial analysis on any type of new government plan. (Irrespective of the fact that most government plans probably should not be implemented in the first place).

You tell me what the stock market will be a year from now, based upon all the analytical data that you want to utilize. Let's see how accurate that prediction turns out to be.

The two takeaways that I got from the CBO report are as follows:

1. 14 million more people will be uninsured by 2018. ( Probably correct. Young people will voluntarily choose to defer purchasing insurance because A) there is no penalty, and B) If they find they need it because, say, they contract cancer 10 years from now, the 30% surcharge penalty is peanuts when they saved 10 years of premiums).

2) The legislation would reduce federal deficits by $337 billion over the next decade, with the largest savings coming from reductions in Medicaid outlays and the reduction of Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies. Also, less people electing coverage means less federal subsidies.

Obamacare was bad Healthcare policy. Ryancare is bad Healthcare policy. Repeal Obamacare effective 6 months from now, and put the burden on both parties to work together and get it right. Hold open hearings with the public and healthcare professionals. Don't have pharmaceutical and insurance lobbyist groups write legislation behind closed doors which is how Obamacare and Ryancare were created.

There are plenty of good ideas out there to reduce the cost of healthcare, allow price discovery, and to put the consumer in charge of his or her healthcare. The biggest impediment to good healthcare policy is corporate greed and political corruption that feed each other.

Cool Breeze

No for the following reasons. 1. The Republicans really dont have a plan to replace Obamacare. This is just smoke and mirrors. 2. If you're a Republican. The truth doesn't matter anyway!

Cool Breeze

You should venture out of your cave more often! Moonbats don't make good pets. Who are these people who never contributed to this country?

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

Can you say ,, Illegal immigrants ??? any questions ??

Cool Breeze

You need to stop sitting on your brain! Your response is asinine and reprobate! http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44206940/ns/us_news-life/t/man-who-saved-girl-says-hes-illegal-immigrant/

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

That's why I call the ACA an abomination. It has no basis in law and egregiously overreaches the government's constitutional mandate.