Loki Loc: Georgia

"I comprehend the laws perfectly well. YOU just can't seem to comprehend how I can dispute the moral value of racist laws."

Immigration laws apply to all races. I thought you had already admitted that Mexican is not a race. Immigration laws are aimed at ALL illegals; the majority happen to be Mexican. YOU cannot seem to comprehend that it takes more than your stamp of approval or disapproval to make a law wrong.

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"What's interesting is how you make that assumption. I never gave any indication that I am more concerned about the rights of one demographic over another. If it was the illegal immigrants brandishing weapons and threatening raids on citizens I would be defending the citizens, but that's not the story in this thread. Once again, I judge a person by what they do, not by their privilege."

You have thus far evinced no concern whatsoever about the US citizens who are victims of your harmless illegal buddies. There are many cases of illegals committing violent crimes against US citizens, but they never seem to make it into your narrative.

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"If they contribute to the system, they should be able to vote. I'm not concerned about voting rights in Mexico."

You are more concerned about the voting rights of Mexican Nationals in this country. Since 1789, only citizens and legal permanent residents have been able to vote in this country in National elections. I suppose we should all be grateful that you have unilaterally decided that this is all wrong and should be changed because it's YOUR opinion.

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"You just don't get it. The crime of being here without proper authority is not a violent crime... it is not a heinous crime... in fact it is often morally permissible. Like stealing a loaf of bread to feed a starving child, or saving a Jew from the Nazis. I KNOW it's illegal to steal bread, even if a child is starving. I KNOW harboring Jews in Nazis Germany was a crime. Heck, Jesus Himself was crucified for "crimes".

It just seems like you don't get how anyone can question authority. That just amazes me that anyone can be such a sheep.


Burglarizing your home is not a violent crime. Stealing your identity is not a violent crime. Shoplifting is not a violent crime. People are still damaged by these actions, that's why they're crimes. Now your precious illegals are feeding their starving children. That must be why so many of them sneak into this country with already pregnant wives, girlfriends and rent-a-putas.
You should know all about sheep and other ruminants. Your illegal amigos have certainly gotten you bleating to their salsa tune.

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"That's not American virtue, Loki... That's just compliance. American virtue doesn't answer to rules just because some politician passed it. In fact, it's the other way around... American virtue is what the rules need to comply with and if they don't then it's the solemn duty of the American citizen to use due process to kill the law. Fortunately, we have something called the Bill of Rights that does a lot of the legwork for us. Ever hear a judge overrule a law because it's unconstitutional? Yeah... THAT's American virtue shitting on a law."

In other words, non-compliance with a law is virtuous, but only if you say so. It is morally permissible, but only if it is in accordance with your moral standards.

Loki Loc: Georgia

"Isn't that what militant patriots say about ANY group they decide to persecute? It's what the Nazis said about the Jews... It's what ISIS says about infidels."

The difference is that Jews were German citizens, not Frenchmen who swam the Rhine. In fact,it would be more like what a Frenchman in WWII would say to a German invader.
Foreign criminals do have rights in this country; the same rights as our homegrown variety... the right to an attorney, and the right to be incarcerated and/or deported if found guilty. Of course, if they are here illegally, they are already a misdemeanant at the very least.