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Feb 25, 2017 09:10:09   #
HedgeHog
 
straightUp wrote:
Here's what she ACTUALLY said...

“This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history,” - Christiana Figueres

That doesn't mean the destruction of capitalism you idiot. It means switching the basis of industry from fossil fuel to renewable energy.


She actually did say "destruction of capitalism". The translation, perhaps, got it wrong.

In any case, it IS all about the destruction of capitalism, whether they admit it or not. I have spoken.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:11:36   #
HedgeHog
 
straightUp wrote:
After I wiped my tears from LAUGHING so hard I decided to read this fine article and so I put a condom on my internet connection and clicked on your link.

First thing... I just gotta point this out. The article says "hundreds of scientists"... that's not 100% of scientists. So, how many hundreds? Well, Three. There were 300 scientists, at least that's what the Washington Examiner says, which is what your source is sourcing. 300 hundred seems about the normal number of geologists commissioned by the carbon industry to protect the illusion that carbon emissions are good for us.

The report was apparently handed to Presidential Clown by the anti-environmentalist that he put in charge of the EPA. Only the stupidest morons on the planet can't see past this bullshit. It's not even a compelling report, in fact from what's been reported by your source, there's no indication that it even makes any sense.

The report says CO2 is not pollution. Well, that all depends on what you're calling pollution. They said CO2 is a beneficial gas that helps plants grow. Well yeah... So? Is this the strategy now? Revert to grade school science and remind ourselves that plants consume CO2? I guess if you stop there everything becomes stupid-simple and I guess they feel more confident since Trump was elected that stupid-simple is all they need. Our industry produces CO2 and that makes trees happy. The End. :)

Never mind the fact that the planet had plenty of carbon dioxide without our factories. Never mind the fact that CO2 is also a greenhouse gas that traps heat, so while it might be good for plants at one level, too much of it will trap too much heat and cause bigger problems on another level. Never mind the fact that CO2 is only a part of what our industry emits anyway. Along with the CO2, industry is also tossing up a whole range of heavy metals and toxic compounds that claim more American lives per year than all the American lives that were EVER lost to Muslim terrorists. But that's just the story of pollution, which as you know, doesn't sell... (probably because the deaths are slow and boring). But global warming (and the climate changes that it causes) is another problem; one that CO2 plays a bigger role in and also presents a more dramatic end.

So a few clever people make it there business to fool the public into thinking a step-back from Paris is based on good sense. They appeal to a level of education they know will resonate with the dumb-ass population that they've learned to bet on for things like electing a demagogue like Trump, so fifth-grade. Basic science... trees consume CO2 and produce O. That's it - keep it stupid-simple.

It's just a little embarrassing that as the U.S. turns away from the table at which every other country in the world is sitting... it won't be just because the U.S. government is too weak to stand up to industry, but because they actually convinced the American people that their pollution is good for trees.

Insult to injury.
After I wiped my tears from LAUGHING so hard I dec... (show quote)


Oh, will you just get back to your endless summers. That seems to be all your brain is capable of processing.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:12:28   #
HedgeHog
 
Ricktloml wrote:
As I stated earlier a U.N. official actually admitted that the purpose of Climate Change was to destroy capitalism, And this Christiana Figueres isn't the first U.N. official to slip up and say so. The goal is world wide socialism. Greed also is a big incentive, there are billions of dollars of grant money being handed out to those with the right political outlook


It's not about greed, Mr. B. It's about control.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:15:33   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JW wrote:
It is an elaborate scam to line the pockets of a few greedy bastards who have neither scruples nor an understanding of science.



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Feb 25, 2017 09:16:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
The UN climate agreement was nothing less than an attempt to gain more control over us, and make certain people rich. Just follow the money. It never lies.


You say it true!!

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Feb 25, 2017 09:17:39   #
HedgeHog
 
straightUp wrote:
eagle... the author is L. Frank Baum who published the story as an allegory for the political and social situation in the 1890s. It's a well known topic of discussion... the political interpretations of the Wizard of Oz. From what I remember, the story revolves around the fight for a bimetal standard (gold AND silver). The perspective is set in Kansas where farmers were loosing their shirts to drought and plague. Many of them were angry with the bankers that seemed to be profiting from their losses. The idea was that allowing the coinage of silver would increase the money supply and make it easier for farmers to pay off their debts. The idea was championed by a populist movement at the time and that was being reported in the papers as a political tornado. As you know, populists always love a tornado.

One more thing... in the original story, Dorthy had silver slippers not ruby ones... The movie studio was experimenting with technicolor and decided ruby slippers would pop out better, but L. Frank Baum had her in silver slippers, dancing along a gold brick road. There's your bimetal currency... To where? Why, to the Emerald City... The banks back east that have all the gold (measured in ounces... as in "OZ") on which to issue money.

Tin Man was the factory worker (hard labor = no heart left), the Scarecrow was the farmer (no brains = reference to how they kept getting screwed by the bankers), the Lion was the politician (without the guts to stand up for... the little people)

L. Frank Baum wrote the story in the late 1890s. This was when the government was just starting to experiment with progressive systems on very small scale. So, it's highly unlikely that the story is a description of such wide-spread progressive culture. Populism maybe, capitalism of course, but progressive politics? Nah.
eagle... the author is L. Frank Baum who published... (show quote)


Well, that has got to be the most creative interpretation of L.Frank Baum that I have ever heard. Similar in content to Animal Farm. That is, you want it to be similar in content.

And who was the Wizard? The Progressive/Socialist/Communist government? The "smoke and mirrors" government?

And the Wicked Witch of the West? The industrialists, who raised the standard of living for all, as even Engels admitted?

And Glinda, the good witch of the South, what was her purpose?

Did you explain the flying monkeys?

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Feb 25, 2017 09:23:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JW wrote:
I figured someone would make an issue of that. That is why I put it that way. I used exactly the same criteria the climate alarmists used to get their famous 97% figure. No one ever said either number included all scientists. I said 100% of the scientists who signed the letter. The alarmists said 97% of scientists who wrote on the subject between 2000 and 2007. Both numbers are meaningless.


Made your point as well....

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Feb 25, 2017 09:26:29   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Well, we all know that the square root of infinity is infinity. Has to be because the only way to reach infinity is to multiply something by infinity, therefore infinity squared equals infinity. But what happens if you multiply infinity by zero?


If it's infinity it's still infinity with no change either way... Can you have more than infinity?? Like the alpha and omega, the beginning with no end that's all...

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Feb 25, 2017 09:30:31   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
HedgeHog wrote:
The wrong side of History? What exactly is that?


History is history, period.. It's the application (man made) that taunts it...

The Civil War artifacts, flag, Statues of the leaders etc are what they are in defining it.. Removing them changes not the history, just the memory of it skewed to appease some..

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Feb 25, 2017 09:33:09   #
HedgeHog
 
lindajoy wrote:
If it's infinity it's still infinity with no change either way... Can you have more than infinity?? Like the alpha and omega, the beginning with no end that's all...


That's what got to Georg Cantor. When he realized, at least using his diagonal method, that the number of the real numbers was more than the number of the integers. That is, if the number of integers is infinite, and the number of real numbers is greater than that, just what IS that number?

So he used "aleph1" and "aleph2", I believe, to count them.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:35:05   #
HedgeHog
 
lindajoy wrote:
History is history, period.. It's the application (man made) that taunts it...

The Civil War artifacts, flag, Statues of the leaders etc are what they are in defining it.. Removing them changes not the history, just the memory of it skewed to appease some..


Marx had it all figured out. Those who were on the "wrong side of history" were those who didn't believe capitalism would destroy itself, and modern Socialism would take its place, and everybody would live happily ever after. He may have confused end-times with what HE considered good societal management.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:36:26   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"But what happens if you multiply infinity by zero?" - L the L
good one:
A really big Zero.
I wonder if Marvy can figure that one out.


Is 1/0 infinity, anything?? Is infinity really a number and if so what is it??

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Feb 25, 2017 09:38:34   #
HedgeHog
 
lindajoy wrote:
Is 1/0 infinity, anything?? Is infinity really a number and if so what is it??


It's "undefined". Seriously.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:38:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
History is history, period.. It's the application (man made) that taunts it...

The Civil War artifacts, flag, Statues of the leaders etc are what they are in defining it.. Removing them changes not the history, just the memory of it skewed to appease some..


One of Communism's MO's is to erase history, and rewrite it.
Even changing the names of cities;
St. Petersberg & ?; to Leningrad and Stalingrad.
Take over education also.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:38:54   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
HedgeHog wrote:
Well I always thought it was!! I found my thrill...


Was it on Blueberry Hill??

http://youtu.be/YxZ5iVhQ6iI


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