Independent (Page 2): :thumbup: It's that old "honey vs. vinegar" theory. We all want to feel validated, that our thoughts have value. Insults and anger shut down the possibility of...

Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

Floyd Brown wrote:

Good of bad you can repeat any thing I may say.

It is best if we can respond to others with respect to their views.

Little by little we can reduce the bad vibes.

:thumbup: It's that old "honey vs. vinegar" theory. We all want to feel validated, that our thoughts have value. Insults and anger shut down the possibility of being heard; missed opportunities to make a difference occur (my opinion, any way). If you change your words, think of the awesome possibilities of changing the world.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Searching wrote:

:thumbup: It's that old "honey vs. vinegar" theory. We all want to feel validated, that our thoughts have value. Insults and anger shut down the possibility of being heard; missed opportunities to make a difference occur (my opinion, any way). If you change your words, think of the awesome possibilities of changing the world.

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robertdavidhummel

Great POINT...LET ME CLARIFY MY "INDEPENDENCE",
...."CONSERVATIVE INDEPENDENT...PERIOD"
whereas a Socialist LIBERAL', is ONE THAT PLANS THE DESTRUCTION of Our Great Nations Christian and Conservative Foundation.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

Floyd Brown wrote:

Partisan can mean more that supporting a party.

It can refer to faction, cause or person.

I used it in a general way more like a cause.

We are trying to reach across party lines with this.

being non-partisan on ideas is one thing but using the same critira to vote for people won't work

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

alex wrote:

being non-partisan on ideas is one thing but using the same critira to vote for people won't work

A good point to bring up.

Of course that makes it hard to work because a person has to deal with more than one issue with one person.

That adds another level of concern we have to deal with.

But still in all we need to avoid buying the party line more now than has been done in the past.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Searching wrote:

:thumbup: It's that old "honey vs. vinegar" theory. We all want to feel validated, that our thoughts have value. Insults and anger shut down the possibility of being heard; missed opportunities to make a difference occur (my opinion, any way). If you change your words, think of the awesome possibilities of changing the world.

Well said, Searching. Your opinion is always worthy of my attention. Your words, well...that goes without saying.

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Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

alex wrote:

being non-partisan on ideas is one thing but using the same critira to vote for people won't work

Humor me here...and don't laugh...but "why not?" What am I missing? I vote across party lines all the time. Do you think it's possible to vote for someone, ignore their party affiliation or do you think that affiliation is just as important because regardless of that politician's personal beliefs, that politician will more than likely tow the party line if pressured and vote against their conscience? Yeah, I know thinking a politician with a conscience is bizarre, but "maybe" they exist. Remember, I did say "maybe".
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Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

slatten49 wrote:

Well said, Searching. Your opinion is always worthy of my attention. Your words, well...that goes without saying.

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lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Searching wrote:

Humor me here...and don't laugh...but "why no... (show quote)

Here's an example for you. Rep. Tim Griffith (R), AR, voted across party lines - one time too many. When he voted to end the Gov. shutdown, he was privately told his time was up. In other words, he was NOT going to get his parties endorsement for reelection in 2014. He announced that he would not seek it.
A politician CAN vote his/her conscience but their party will punish them. Newer politicians have absolutely no chance to change party politics. Removing everyone who has served more than 2 terms may give them a chance but since their terms are staggered, it ain't gonna happen. That's why I advocate voting for "independent" candidates until there is no longer a majority party. THEN the lost art of negotiation and compromise may re emerge.

Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

lpnmajor wrote:

Here's an example for you. Rep. Tim Griffith (R), ... (show quote)

Oh my, more than just naïve I am, because I actually worked for a political appointee, albeit part of the Department of the Interior. B-duh. I like your plan, because once I thought about it, it's perhaps the "only" way to separate Party and personal ethics. Shoot. :cry:

TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon

Searching wrote:

Welcome aboard!! I have learned to avoid putting labels to comments or posters. As you have already discovered, they are rather like lightning rods, even if you perceive that you have described something neutral in nature. :lol: As long as you give well thought out responses, there are many who will respect what you have to say and will respond in kind. Enjoy the ride!!

Ljburno,
Welcome to the forum, Searching has a very good observation. Avoid labels (for yourself and others) as Searching is right to point out that they are lightening rods.
Feel free to post you thoughts into a topic thread, or start your own. There will be quite a few passionate ones here who would be more than willing to guide your thinking if it disagrees with them. Keep an open mind, as we all learn from each other here (you will find some who already know it all too). We have fun here, just don't take anything said personally.
Tim

HawaiiWhig67 Loc: Honolulu, HI

This site is so good that it can debate anything, even simple generic 10 word comments.

*applause*

robertdavidhummel

Some PIC's Speak a THOUSAND + WORDS.