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Feb 22, 2017 09:48:09   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
working class stiff wrote:
Reconreb:

That's because you deny that murderers like Dylan Roof are not somehow part of the right. You deny your own worst elements while painting the whole left as it's worst elements.

double standard.


Speaking of doubles. You must be a twin. One person can't be this stupid. Dylan Roof? What group was he officially a member of? White Lives Matter? The far left group BLM actually had people purporting to be members kill policeman. Dylan Roof represented no one group unless he was the poster child for psychotic murders. You are doing what all lefties do. Taking one example and giving said example the same weight as hundreds of examples. I thought better of you. Instead of trying to defend the indefensible why don't you stand up and say the people on your side rioting should be jailed.

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Feb 22, 2017 09:58:42   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
I don't get it. Trump beat a bunch of established politicians in the primary. Then he beat the ultimate establishment representative, Hillary Clinton. He beat Obama. How? By beating Hillary who promised us an extension of Obamas policies. He's now beating the corrupt press at their own game. Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. You may not like it. Especially the liberal snowflakes but why are you shocked? Could it be we finally have a politician who is trying to do exactly what he said? I was never much of a Trump fan but become more of one everyday. The more I see the Fake press, far left groups, and liberal talking heads melt down the better conservatives look.
I don't get it. Trump beat a bunch of established ... (show quote)


Why, you ask?? For exactly what you just pointed out!! He isn't just words they twist or the fake news they put out...Look at his ACTION which speaks louder than any words!!

He has stood by his pledge to the citizens, and not wavered in the face of the left or your Rino's like McCain etc..He has done it in spite of them..

J, he's the Anomaly they simple can not figure out.. As I watch him I see he is more motivated by the negative to prove them wrong.. Just as he did in the election process ...!!

These people are ticked he is succeeding in spite of them and it's frying their last brain cell...

Did you see the rally down there??? Who's lying about polls again??? Wowww!!

telle est la vie de mon amour'~~

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Feb 22, 2017 10:11:51   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
working class stiff wrote:
You don't get it because there is nothing to get. The left isn't becoming unhinged, nor melting down. That's just how you want to interpret things. We are just standing up for our beliefs....exactly what the right did during the last administration.

Unless you thought that the right was unhinged during the Obama administration, you're using a double standard to judge the behaviors of the two opposition groups. You would have to be a neutral observer to actually make a fair judgement.
You don't get it because there is nothing to get. ... (show quote)


I stayed unhinged when the other guy was occupying our WhiteHouse...I readily admit it...

The right did not rally against BO as your progressive globalist are doing now and they are unhinged.. Although your Soros hashtag no payor and the crowds are now losing interest too, there has been even more division because of it all... How is that good for any of us??

They have worked long and hard to infiltrate their reform of our country and the people having had enough of loose morals, forced agendas and lack of achievement in anything told them Not happening... Loud and clear~ not happening..

When it comes to our country we need to be proactive,not nuetral... We have tried the neutral and look where we aren't because of it...

Theoretically nuetral allows objectivity, however, as we have seen objectivity has been thrown to the wolves and insanity has gained momentum...Sheep lead to slaughter and don't even know it, yet...

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Feb 22, 2017 10:25:17   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
JFlorio wrote:
Speaking of doubles. You must be a twin. One person can't be this stupid. Dylan Roof? What group was he officially a member of? White Lives Matter? The far left group BLM actually had people purporting to be members kill policeman. Dylan Roof represented no one group unless he was the poster child for psychotic murders. You are doing what all lefties do. Taking one example and giving said example the same weight as hundreds of examples. I thought better of you. Instead of trying to defend the indefensible why don't you stand up and say the people on your side rioting should be jailed.
Speaking of doubles. You must be a twin. One perso... (show quote)



I have said so. But apparently, that makes no impact on you because you see me as part of some undifferentiated mass. And that is why the Dylan Roof comparison is apt. Hang him around the neck of the right, and watch the howls of protests. It's the same principle....to those wielding hammers, everything is a nail.

The problem is that you think rioting is going on. There's no rioting. If you are referring to the days immediately after the election, I said then that folks breaking the law should be held accountable. However, the right wants to paint a picture of America in flames when in reality, life is pretty normal in the country. There are not even that many protests going on, much less rioting.

From my perspective, the left haven't become unhinged...they just won't shut up. I think that's the bee in your bonnet.

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Feb 22, 2017 10:28:31   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
What I don't understand LJ is guys like stiff actually think these lefty morons have his best interests at heart. What in the hell did the Obama administration do for the working man the last eight years? Let's see; let in millions of low skilled workers too depress wages and take finite resources from our schools and hospitals. They did up gang membership. They did grow part-time jobs to a new high. Put more people on SS disability and food stamps then ever before. Completely screwed up health care, unless of course you don't work and you don't mind me and others paying for your care. Their greatest achievement; First time in modern history we had eight years where small business failures out paced small business startups. Yet this is the kind of thing stiff and the left support but say they are not unhinged. How about clueless?
lindajoy wrote:
I stayed unhinged when the other guy was occupying our WhiteHouse...I readily admit it...

The right did not rally against BO as your progressive globalist are doing now and they are unhinged.. Although your Soros hashtag no payor and the crowds are now losing interest too, there has been even more division because of it all... How is that good for any of us??

They have worked long and hard to infiltrate their reform of our country and the people having had enough of loose morals, forced agendas and lack of achievement in anything told them Not happening... Loud and clear~ not happening..

When it comes to our country we need to be proactive,not nuetral... We have tried the neutral and look where we aren't because of it...

Theoretically nuetral allows objectivity, however, as we have seen objectivity has been thrown to the wolves and insanity has gained momentum...Sheep lead to slaughter and don't even know it, yet...
I stayed unhinged when the other guy was occupying... (show quote)

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Feb 22, 2017 10:34:50   #
Big Bass
 
JFlorio wrote:
I don't get it. Trump beat a bunch of established politicians in the primary. Then he beat the ultimate establishment representative, Hillary Clinton. He beat Obama. How? By beating Hillary who promised us an extension of Obamas policies. He's now beating the corrupt press at their own game. Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. You may not like it. Especially the liberal snowflakes but why are you shocked? Could it be we finally have a politician who is trying to do exactly what he said? I was never much of a Trump fan but become more of one everyday. The more I see the Fake press, far left groups, and liberal talking heads melt down the better conservatives look.
I don't get it. Trump beat a bunch of established ... (show quote)


From the Handbook of Understanding Liberalism:-
Section 101; "You can never ascribe "Logic" to explain liberalism. It is an oxymoron. Liberals are the only entities on the planet Earth that make stupid people look smart."

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Feb 22, 2017 10:36:06   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Leave it to you BB. You found a use for them.
Big Bass wrote:
From the Handbook of Understanding Liberalism:-
Section 101; "You can never ascribe "Logic" to explain liberalism. It is an oxymoron. Liberals are the only entities on the planet Earth that make stupid people look smart."

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Feb 22, 2017 10:36:56   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
lindajoy wrote:
I stayed unhinged when the other guy was occupying our WhiteHouse...I readily admit it...

The right did not rally against BO as your progressive globalist are doing now and they are unhinged.. Although your Soros hashtag no payor and the crowds are now losing interest too, there has been even more division because of it all... How is that good for any of us??

They have worked long and hard to infiltrate their reform of our country and the people having had enough of loose morals, forced agendas and lack of achievement in anything told them Not happening... Loud and clear~ not happening..

When it comes to our country we need to be proactive,not nuetral... We have tried the neutral and look where we aren't because of it...

Theoretically nuetral allows objectivity, however, as we have seen objectivity has been thrown to the wolves and insanity has gained momentum...Sheep lead to slaughter and don't even know it, yet...
I stayed unhinged when the other guy was occupying... (show quote)



I can appreciate that honesty.

Just one thing...2016 elections are not the final word of the people. They will speak again in '18 and '20. It's an ongoing dialogue. So while the people may have given Mr. Trump a chance to run the Presidency, the verdict is still open to judgement. This isn't a 'sudden death OT' victory...

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Feb 22, 2017 10:50:25   #
vernon
 
JFlorio wrote:
I don't get it. Trump beat a bunch of established politicians in the primary. Then he beat the ultimate establishment representative, Hillary Clinton. He beat Obama. How? By beating Hillary who promised us an extension of Obamas policies. He's now beating the corrupt press at their own game. Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. You may not like it. Especially the liberal snowflakes but why are you shocked? Could it be we finally have a politician who is trying to do exactly what he said? I was never much of a Trump fan but become more of one everyday. The more I see the Fake press, far left groups, and liberal talking heads melt down the better conservatives look.
I don't get it. Trump beat a bunch of established ... (show quote)



In my opinion the left thought that with the election they were going to take the country to complete socialism.When they lost it just destroyed their belief that this country was ready for socialism/communism.

now they are in open revolt and are determined to destroy the trump presidency.If they can't win at the ballot box they think they can win with violence and social unrest.this is the way they will destroy this crazy party and do it in short order.

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Feb 22, 2017 10:56:15   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Of course 2016 is not the final word. If Trump doesn't at least try to do the things he ran on I will be the first to out him. So far I am pleasantly surprised. I too could not stand Obama from the days he was a no account Senator to his last days. Never once did I consider rioting or destroying anything. I attended many Tea Party rallies. No violence, no death threats. More like a church meeting than anything. Didn't need a safe space and would have never ever thought of shutting down free speech at colleges or town halls.
working class stiff wrote:
I can appreciate that honesty.

Just one thing...2016 elections are not the final word of the people. They will speak again in '18 and '20. It's an ongoing dialogue. So while the people may have given Mr. Trump a chance to run the Presidency, the verdict is still open to judgement. This isn't a 'sudden death OT' victory...

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Feb 22, 2017 10:58:07   #
Big Bass
 
vernon wrote:
In my opinion the left thought that with the election they were going to take the country to complete socialism.When they lost it just destroyed their belief that this country was ready for socialism/communism.

now they are in open revolt and are determined to destroy the trump presidency.If they can't win at the ballot box they think they can win with violence and social unrest.this is the way they will destroy this crazy party and do it in short order.


The media propaganda machine is promulgating anarchy. It seems that they do not understand the concept of "democratically elected". They constantly prove they are obsolete.

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Feb 22, 2017 11:02:12   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
JFlorio wrote:
What I don't understand LJ is guys like stiff actually think these lefty morons have his best interests at heart. What in the hell did the Obama administration do for the working man the last eight years? Let's see; let in millions of low skilled workers too depress wages and take finite resources from our schools and hospitals. They did up gang membership. They did grow part-time jobs to a new high. Put more people on SS disability and food stamps then ever before. Completely screwed up health care, unless of course you don't work and you don't mind me and others paying for your care. Their greatest achievement; First time in modern history we had eight years where small business failures out paced small business startups. Yet this is the kind of thing stiff and the left support but say they are not unhinged. How about clueless?
What I don't understand LJ is guys like stiff actu... (show quote)


Not clueless either.

Obama deported more illegal aliens than any of his predecessors.There are fewer illegal aliens here now than when he came into office as there has been a net outmigration. American workers have been competing with low wage immigrants since the 1950s and it was no worse under Obama. But the right also has us competing with low wage workers all around the world as capital has flown to China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, and various other countries. Free trade is (or was until Mr. Trump protested) a bedrock of conservative thinking and Nafta and the TPP were all pushed by Republicans. So forgive me if I don't buy the 'conservatives are looking out for the working guy' narrative

I also remember the bang up job on the economy the last right leaner (thank you oldroy) did. No help for the working class there. Fact is, working Americans have not shared in the nations increased wealth since the 1970s. That's where our real wages are stuck. The 'great recession' is also the reason for the increase in social welfare spending.

As for screwing up health care...yeah, I'm sure some folks did get screwed. It would have been cheaper and less complicated in the long run to just go to single payer. Instead we built a frankenstein trying to please everyone, and that includes insurance companies. You know, those companies paying their execs multi-million dollar bonuses while crying that the ACA is bankrupting them.

So no, clueless I'm not.

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Feb 22, 2017 11:10:08   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
JFlorio wrote:
Of course 2016 is not the final word. If Trump doesn't at least try to do the things he ran on I will be the first to out him. So far I am pleasantly surprised. I too could not stand Obama from the days he was a no account Senator to his last days. Never once did I consider rioting or destroying anything. I attended many Tea Party rallies. No violence, no death threats. More like a church meeting than anything. Didn't need a safe space and would have never ever thought of shutting down free speech at colleges or town halls.
Of course 2016 is not the final word. If Trump doe... (show quote)


I understand you did not like or agree with Obama. I'm sure you did not riot.

I'm not pleased with Trump so far. I also did not riot.

And CPAC just recently disinvited the same speaker UC Berkeley disinvited. As for the town halls...a practice used by TEA party members during the Obama administration. No safe space for me...I'm here, aren't I?

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Feb 22, 2017 11:11:54   #
HedgeHog
 
working class stiff wrote:
You don't get it because there is nothing to get. The left isn't becoming unhinged, nor melting down. That's just how you want to interpret things. We are just standing up for our beliefs....exactly what the right did during the last administration.

Unless you thought that the right was unhinged during the Obama administration, you're using a double standard to judge the behaviors of the two opposition groups. You would have to be a neutral observer to actually make a fair judgement.
You don't get it because there is nothing to get. ... (show quote)



What beliefs are those, WCS? Is it possible for you to be specific? Or are you just allowed to believe your "beliefs", whatever they are, are morally superior to those of conservatives? Tell me, us, your principles, the ones you "believe" are worth standing for. If, that is, you are not afraid.

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Feb 22, 2017 11:13:55   #
HedgeHog
 
working class stiff wrote:
I can appreciate that honesty.

Just one thing...2016 elections are not the final word of the people. They will speak again in '18 and '20. It's an ongoing dialogue. So while the people may have given Mr. Trump a chance to run the Presidency, the verdict is still open to judgement. This isn't a 'sudden death OT' victory...


What are "they"---the people---going to speak about, WCS? That black folks should still be given a pass, because after all, they are incapable of taking care of themselves, and government has to do it for them? Is that their demand?

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