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Mar 23, 2017 21:14:42   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
The videos sounded more like rain then explosives ... Your loader is as clueless as you are... the towers did not implode... they peeled outward... the truth is boring but science fiction sells big time... explain to us viewers what a 1400 foot building sounds like in collapse... if it was a controlled demo we should clearly hear tons of high explosive detonating 100 times in ten seconds... it never happened putz...


You weren't there so how do you know what was heard?
You go by the video sound which was adjusted for the reporter's voice instead of background sounds.
Listen again to what was heard by people who were there . . . which you weren't . . . there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

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Mar 23, 2017 21:21:35   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
That video does nothing of the sort. Bunch of morons once again making outrageous assumptions. The stats may be correct, but the speculations are total bullshit.

First of all, 157 people were aboard the two jets that struck the towers and a never to be known number of people in the towers were directly in the path of those jets. Due to the tremendous violence of those crashes and the explosion of jet fuel throughout the impact zones, there is little doubt that these people were obliterated and incinerated. Moreover, because the impacts and fuel explosions were horizontal through the buildings, bits of flesh, bone fragments and teeth were blown for blocks. This was particularly evident in the strike on the South Tower.

The idiot who narrated a portion of that video said, "when a building collapses the victims tend to be TRAPPED between the pancaking floors, they may be mangled, but in most cases, they remain in ONE PIECE." Oh, really? The extreme violence of several hundred thousand tons of disintegrating building and office contents collapsing from a thousand feet up would simply trap a victim "between the pancaking floors". That moron needs to get the hell away from his video games, get out of his mom's basement and spend some time in the real world.

Let's get real. The inside of those towers was like a giant blender running at full speed. Thousands, if not millions, of broken steel beams, rods, tubes, torn steel sheeting, slabs and chunks of cement, severed lengths of heavy wires and cables, shards of glass, plastic, and ceramic, shattered wood, drywall, particle board and marble, machines of all kinds, desks, cabinets, etc etc etc all churning in a huge grinding, crushing, slicing mass would shred human bodies, tear them to pieces, slice them up, pulverize them, grind them to hamburger.

More than 90% of the workers and visitors who died in the towers had been at or above the points of impact (1356 people were trapped above the impact zone in the North Tower and 618 above the impact zone in the South Tower did not get out). These people, nearly a quarter of a mile up, were in the blender the longest.

Somebody needs to beat the shit out of Richard Gage.

Oh yeah, in 2011, a four foot by 17 inch piece of aircraft landing gear was found wedged between two buildings a block and a half north of the WTC site. It was stamped with Boeing ID and serial number. It was from the 767 that struck the South Tower--Flight 175.
That video does nothing of the sort. Bunch of moro... (show quote)


Yes, let's get real. If the inside of those towers were like a giant blender, the only force which could create that condition is explosions going off on every floor.
Where is your source to back up your claim that the Landing gear had a serial number which identified it as from Flight 175? I have never seen that information verified.

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Mar 23, 2017 21:23:06   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
How impressive putz... check this out 2.5 million views...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Qf_4Au3jw


All that proves is . . . there are a lot of people who prefer to live in fantasyland.

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Mar 23, 2017 22:27:52   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
You weren't there so how do you know what was heard?
You go by the video sound which was adjusted for the reporter's voice instead of background sounds.
Listen again to what was heard by people who were there . . . which you weren't . . . there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk



There ya go again putz... more bullshit... explosions violently displace air... you're not adjusting anything like a shock wave...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1eUIK9CihA

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Mar 23, 2017 22:36:55   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
All that proves is . . . there are a lot of people who prefer to live in fantasyland.



This video got 1,401,000 viewings.
It supports the use of explosives


I rest my case putz...

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Mar 24, 2017 01:15:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Yes, let's get real. If the inside of those towers were like a giant blender, the only force which could create that condition is explosions going off on every floor.
Where is your source to back up your claim that the Landing gear had a serial number which identified it as from Flight 175? I have never seen that information verified.
NBC NEW YORK Reported April 26, 2013, updated on 27th. NYPD officers secured the area, and NY police commissioner, Ray Kelly, inspected the site.

The reason you have never seen that information is because you don't want to see that kind of information, and if someone provides it, you rubber stamp it as "Zionist propaganda" and just sweep it aside.

FYI: Explosives are not the only violent force in the universe. No evidence of explosive detonations were ever found anywhere in the entire WTC rubble.

MIT: Aircraft Impact Damage

The potential energy in one kiloton of high explosive is 4200 Mega Joules.

Kinetic energy of the aircraft impact into North Tower = 2540 Mega Joules - equivalent to 604 tons of high explosive.

Kinetic energy of aircraft impact into South Tower = 3658 Mega Joules - equivalent to 870 tons of high explosive.

Kinetic energy in explosion of 10,000 gals of Jet A = 1300 Mega Joules - equivalent to 309 tons of high explosive x 2 = 618 tons.

Total potential energy in ONE TOWER = 1200 Mega joules - equivalent to 285 tons of high explosive x 2 = 570 tons of high explosive.

Total kinetic energy release in aircraft impacts, fuel explosions, and collapses of twin towers = 11198 MJ = 11.2 Giga Joules = an equivalent of 2562 tons of high explosive.

The B61 tactical nuke has yield of 0.3 kilotons (equivalent to 300 tons of TNT). 8 of them would equal the energy released on 9/11.

Civil and demolition engineers have estimated that to accomplish the 9/11 controlled demo conspiracy, at least 150 tons of explosive per tower would have been needed.

Obviously there was enough energy released during the aircraft impacts, fuel explosions, fires, and collapses to overwhelm any idea that "powerful explosives" were the ONLY force that could possibly have destroyed the towers.

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Mar 24, 2017 01:17:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
All that proves is . . . there are a lot of people who prefer to live in fantasyland.
Yeah, how are things going down there?

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Mar 24, 2017 08:49:41   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
This video got 1,401,000 viewings.
It supports the use of explosives


I rest my case putz...


While you're resting, why don't you come up with a valid reason why you hide behind cowardly anonymity?

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Mar 24, 2017 08:53:51   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
NBC NEW YORK Reported April 26, 2013, updated on 27th. NYPD officers secured the area, and NY police commissioner, Ray Kelly, inspected the site.

The reason you have never seen that information is because you don't want to see that kind of information, and if someone provides it, you rubber stamp it as "Zionist propaganda" and just sweep it aside.

FYI: Explosives are not the only violent force in the universe. No evidence of explosive detonations were ever found anywhere in the entire WTC rubble.

MIT: Aircraft Impact Damage

The potential energy in one kiloton of high explosive is 4200 Mega Joules.

Kinetic energy of the aircraft impact into North Tower = 2540 Mega Joules - equivalent to 604 tons of high explosive.

Kinetic energy of aircraft impact into South Tower = 3658 Mega Joules - equivalent to 870 tons of high explosive.

Kinetic energy in explosion of 10,000 gals of Jet A = 1300 Mega Joules - equivalent to 309 tons of high explosive x 2 = 618 tons.

Total potential energy in ONE TOWER = 1200 Mega joules - equivalent to 285 tons of high explosive x 2 = 570 tons of high explosive.

Total kinetic energy release in aircraft impacts, fuel explosions, and collapses of twin towers = 11198 MJ = 11.2 Giga Joules = an equivalent of 2562 tons of high explosive.

The B61 tactical nuke has yield of 0.3 kilotons (equivalent to 300 tons of TNT). 8 of them would equal the energy released on 9/11.

Civil and demolition engineers have estimated that to accomplish the 9/11 controlled demo conspiracy, at least 150 tons of explosive per tower would have been needed.

Obviously there was enough energy released during the aircraft impacts, fuel explosions, fires, and collapses to overwhelm any idea that "powerful explosives" were the ONLY force that could possibly have destroyed the towers.
b NBC NEW YORK /b Reported April 26, 2013, updat... (show quote)


Where is the source which backs up your claim of the serial number of Flight 175 being on the landing gear found at WTC?

Did your MIT cover-up agents do mathematical formulas to show why WTC7 fell just like a classic controlled demolition?
If so, post them for us.

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Mar 24, 2017 08:54:59   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, how are things going down there?


How are things going in cowardly anonymityland?

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Mar 24, 2017 10:06:16   #
saltwind78
 
papa, Both the far right and the far left has it's own kind of anti- Semitism. The far right embraces old fashioned racial views. The far left uses anti- Zionism as a cover for it's hatred.
The Jews I know are very much pro- Israel, but many like myself do not support the settlements. They see this as a barrier to peace talks.
pappadeux wrote:
Israel has has been America's best ally in the middle east ever since it's inception in 1948, and is the only true democratic state in the Middle East, yet American Jews continue to support anti Israel activity in that region and other parts of the world. Am I missing something here ?. Are there two different Jews, the ones who follow the traditional faith of Abraham or the 'New York' type who only follow their own selfish interests. Can someone explain the confusion that I as well as many others share. Now make your reply show good sense and not the 'progressive' blather that we all see in these very strange times.
Israel has has been America's best ally in the mid... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2017 10:18:47   #
payne1000
 
saltwind78 wrote:
papa, Both the far right and the far left has it's own kind of anti- Semitism. The far right embraces old fashioned racial views. The far left uses anti- Zionism as a cover for it's hatred.
The Jews I know are very much pro- Israel, but many like myself do not support the settlements. They see this as a barrier to peace talks.


Non-Zionists see the Israeli settlements as theft of Arab land.
Zionists don't judge theft of someone elses property to be a crime. Do you?

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Mar 24, 2017 17:53:06   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
While you're resting, why don't you come up with a valid reason why you hide behind cowardly anonymity?




While you're blabbing why not blab about your argument instead of obsessing over other people... you're looking pretty creepy... like a frustrated old Nazi who's loosing the war ...you're on the wrong side of right putz...

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Mar 24, 2017 18:56:09   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
While you're blabbing why not blab about your argument instead of obsessing over other people... you're looking pretty creepy... like a frustrated old Nazi who's loosing the war ...you're on the wrong side of right putz...


What's really creepy is a cowardly anonymous shill who repeats the same
false accusations and insults over and over and over and over and over and over . . . ad infinitum . . .

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Mar 24, 2017 19:45:25   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Where is the source which backs up your claim of the serial number of Flight 175 being on the landing gear found at WTC?

Did your MIT cover-up agents do mathematical formulas to show why WTC7 fell just like a classic controlled demolition?
If so, post them for us.
The SN is for a Boeing 767 landing gear, it doesn't specify a flight number. That said, since the landing gear was found a block and half north of where the South Tower stood, there is no doubt what the flight number was. It could have been none other than Flight 175.

The scientists at MIT are not "cover up agents", they are university scientists. They, and scientists and engineers at many other such institutions, have researched, evaluated, analyzed and crunched the numbers for the damage, fires, and collapse of WTC 7. We have already posted dozens of those sources in this thread and many other threads dealing with 9/11, and you trash them all. If you do visit the sites, you ignore the substance and just look for the names of those who did the work so you can simply rubber stamp them as "Zionist propagandists" or "cover-up agents". If you can't find a name or names, you respond with your nonsensical whining about the credibility of "anonymous sources" and "cowardly Zionists shills". So what is the point of posting them again?

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