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Feb 14, 2017 17:27:05   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
oldroy wrote:
If we have about 3,000 mosques for the 3.3 million Muslims we have is there a way to keep them from needing 6,000 mosques by 2050 when their population reaches 6.6 million other than stopping the importation of them that Obama got going? I would say that mandatory searching of those mosques might help keep all of them from having guns when they decide to start the war they are pointing at. Not allowing the construction of any more mosques would certainly weaken them, I think.

I wonder if people like you don't need to work at DHS for a while. We may be old but we can sure offer some good suggestions that Trump may well like since he does intend to protect us as his oath of office called for him to do.
If we have about 3,000 mosques for the 3.3 million... (show quote)


Your stats are based on what has been, not what we do to change the total number of immigrants in our country, if any.. We are under no legal obligation to take any period... if we limit influx to say 50k a year based on absolute need of persecution and that means all immigrants, not just muslims....
And I do mean absolute need, not just everyone who wants to come in..

Mosques should be limited to what exists now with a 10 year ban to allow anymore period and then based on need because the area is without one, not because they just want another to out number the other denominational churches....

I write Trump personally as well as my representatives and even Congress as it is.. Am working on a Terms Limit I petition through the the WhiteHouse site and am involved in research on an Article V about Term limits already .. it takes av34 state majority with 26 on board...

By pass anymore red tape with the flawed judicial system we can not trust~~ think AG AND DOJ of the past..Trump can stop all entry right now for as long as he believes is needed to secure our homeland!!

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Feb 14, 2017 19:24:27   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
So tell us Larry,

If YOU were president, how would you solve the immigration problem ?


Well, Wolf, if I were President, there would be no 'immigration problem'.

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Feb 15, 2017 05:41:16   #
zombietracker Loc: Fema region 6
 
lindajoy wrote:
Bring it to zero admittance for 3 years, allowing us to work on and clean out what does not belong here... Granting admission into our country is a privilege we do from a humanitarian effort.. We have taken in more than any other country for decades now...
Now our country needs its own humanitarian effort for the benefit of its citizens and insuring our economy thrives, our military is returned to a stable ability to defend.. Shore our borders, patrol our waterways, enforce existing penalties to employers who hire illegals.. Call the arrest off mayors whom now flagrantly violate the laws of immigration asfound in the 1952 and 1965 revision.. Not only their arrest but ousting of position to start..

Do mandatory inspections of existing mosque. Allow no more to be built.. Yhey have plenty and are known as a assembly location to spread their venomous plans of invasions, protests, attacks etc..
Bring it to zero admittance for 3 years, allowing ... (show quote)



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Feb 15, 2017 05:45:13   #
fullspinzoo
 
lindajoy wrote:
Bring it to zero admittance for 3 years, allowing us to work on and clean out what does not belong here... Granting admission into our country is a privilege we do from a humanitarian effort.. We have taken in more than any other country for decades now...
Now our country needs its own humanitarian effort for the benefit of its citizens and insuring our economy thrives, our military is returned to a stable ability to defend.. Shore our borders, patrol our waterways, enforce existing penalties to employers who hire illegals.. Call the arrest off mayors whom now flagrantly violate the laws of immigration asfound in the 1952 and 1965 revision.. Not only their arrest but ousting of position to start..

Do mandatory inspections of existing mosque. Allow no more to be built.. Yhey have plenty and are known as a assembly location to spread their venomous plans of invasions, protests, attacks etc..
Bring it to zero admittance for 3 years, allowing ... (show quote)

I agree. I would shut the whole immigration situation down, like I said before. We are not required by law or anything else to let these refugees or immigrants in. And if anybody has a problem with it, blame the judge in Washington. Everything was moving in the right direction until this judge through a wrench in the whole thing. No good deed goes unpunished. Well, screw em. If this is the way they want to play, halt the whole program.

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Feb 15, 2017 06:37:06   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
lindajoy wrote:
Bring it to zero admittance for 3 years, allowing us to work on and clean out what does not belong here... Granting admission into our country is a privilege we do from a humanitarian effort.. We have taken in more than any other country for decades now...
Now our country needs its own humanitarian effort for the benefit of its citizens and insuring our economy thrives, our military is returned to a stable ability to defend.. Shore our borders, patrol our waterways, enforce existing penalties to employers who hire illegals.. Call the arrest off mayors whom now flagrantly violate the laws of immigration asfound in the 1952 and 1965 revision.. Not only their arrest but ousting of position to start..

Do mandatory inspections of existing mosque. Allow no more to be built.. Yhey have plenty and are known as a assembly location to spread their venomous plans of invasions, protests, attacks etc..
Bring it to zero admittance for 3 years, allowing ... (show quote)



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Feb 15, 2017 06:46:25   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
"The immigration taboo"...

"People kept telling me "it's not a ban." Well… It WAS a "ban." Tell this Christian family it wasn't a ban:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/01/31/after-trump-executive-order-syrian-christians-sent-back-to-genocide-zone-n2279296 "

Here's 'the rest of the story':

http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=6a89b73599e68a4cdf6730e21&id=1bd075cbbc&e=188e9ddd81

"We think there's zero reason to suddenly trust and place great faith in the promises of politicians and their bureaucrats. Are these not the same people who brought us a war on poverty that didn't reduce poverty? A drug war that creates criminal gangs?"

"So how is the situation of "vetting" going to be any different? How is such an incompetent, self-serving, politically-designed, state apparatus suddenly going to get so good at something that they'll actually increase our safety?"

"It's also hard to understand why this policy is suddenly necessary." (Emphasis in original)

"The point is…

We keep being right. Even our wives agree with us -- at least on matters of foreign policy."
"The immigration taboo"... br br "... (show quote)


"Being right" is a matter of opinion. This policy is NOT "suddenly necessary", it was and has been the way immigrants were admitted. Vetting is the proper way to handle immigration. Try to go to another country and see if you're not vetted. This whole article is wrong.

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Feb 15, 2017 09:19:35   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
I agree. I would shut the whole immigration situation down, like I said before. We are not required by law or anything else to let these refugees or immigrants in. And if anybody has a problem with it, blame the judge in Washington. Everything was moving in the right direction until this judge through a wrench in the whole thing. No good deed goes unpunished. Well, screw em. If this is the way they want to play, halt the whole program.


The 9th District Court of Appeals is a joke and has been for years.. They have been reversed 90% of the time on appeal.. Not only the most liberal in rulings incompetent as well.. Senator McCain has a motion to disban them he filed well before this issue came up..It should be granted!!

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Feb 15, 2017 09:21:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
snowbear37 wrote:
"Being right" is a matter of opinion. This policy is NOT "suddenly necessary", it was and has been the way immigrants were admitted. Vetting is the proper way to handle immigration. Try to go to another country and see if you're not vetted. This whole article is wrong.


We have this mess because vetting became so lax, especially under BO'S open arm policy of come on in! And his hands off directives to the border payrol•°!!!!

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Feb 15, 2017 09:22:10   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
snowbear37 wrote:


Thank You, snowbear....

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Feb 15, 2017 09:27:49   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
zombietracker wrote:


Thank You, zillaorange
..

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Feb 15, 2017 09:29:39   #
zillaorange
 
lindajoy wrote:
Bring it to zero admittance for 3 years, allowing us to work on and clean out what does not belong here... Granting admission into our country is a privilege we do from a humanitarian effort.. We have taken in more than any other country for decades now...
Now our country needs its own humanitarian effort for the benefit of its citizens and insuring our economy thrives, our military is returned to a stable ability to defend.. Shore our borders, patrol our waterways, enforce existing penalties to employers who hire illegals.. Call the arrest off mayors whom now flagrantly violate the laws of immigration asfound in the 1952 and 1965 revision.. Not only their arrest but ousting of position to start..

Do mandatory inspections of existing mosque. Allow no more to be built.. Yhey have plenty and are known as a assembly location to spread their venomous plans of invasions, protests, attacks etc..
Bring it to zero admittance for 3 years, allowing ... (show quote)


Good Morning, you've got my vote !!!

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Feb 15, 2017 10:46:09   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Guantanamo , the new Ellis island and extreme vetting from there and my idea would include execution of radicals but I do agree with the 3 year ban to begin with .

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Feb 15, 2017 11:12:58   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Well, Wolf, if I were President, there would be no 'immigration problem'.


That's not an answer Larry.

If you became president today, you would be faced with a very difficult immigration problem.

It sounds as though you truly don't understand the full scope of the definition of immigration.

I would suggest that before you comment , do your homework.

Because this response you gave me, paints you to be less informed than a high school dropout.

Get educated........................Pilgrim !

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Feb 15, 2017 15:03:22   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
That's not an answer Larry.


You think I ducked the question. In a way, you might be right.

Wolf counselor wrote:
If you became president today, you would be faced with a very difficult immigration problem.


Yes, if I were to become President today, I would most certainly be faced with a lot of very difficult decisions to make about the 'immigration problem'. Keeping that in mind, there is no way that I would accept the position of President of the United States today, and thus would not be faced with these decisions.

Wolf counselor wrote:
It sounds as though you truly don't understand the full scope of the definition of immigration.


Well, according to Wikipedia:

"Immigration is the international movement of people into a destination country of which they are not natives or where they do not possess citizenship in order to settle or reside there, especially as permanent residents or naturalized citizens, or to take-up employment as a migrant worker or temporarily as a foreign worker".

And:
"Studies show that the elimination of barriers to migration would have profound effects on world GDP, with estimates of gains ranging between 67 and 147 percent. Development economists argue that reducing barriers to labor mobility between developing countries and developed countries would be one of the most efficient tools of poverty reduction."

Also, it's hard to argue that the US is not at the leading edge of this;
"The largest number of international migrants live in the United States, with 19% of the world's total."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration


Wolf counselor wrote:
I would suggest that before you comment , do your homework. Because this response you gave me, paints you to be less informed than a high school dropout.


Is that sufficient 'homework' or do you still consider me "to be less informed than a high school dropout"?

Wolf counselor wrote:
Get educated........................Pilgrim !


"Pilgrim". Settler. Not am immigrant. Sorry, I am neither immigrant or pilgrim. I was actually born here.

Your move.

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Feb 15, 2017 16:22:56   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
"Pilgrim". Settler. Not am immigrant. Sorry, I am neither immigrant or pilgrim. I was actually born here.

Your move.


You've done well, grasshopper.

I apologize for my condescending behavior.

I also, would not care to take on the responsibilities of the presidency.

I find it a challenge just being president of my own humble holdings.

I built the perimeter fence around my property for the same reason Trump wants to build a wall.

And at the gates of my property, I do not allow Muslims to enter.

I can't think of any others that I would not welcome as long as they are respectful of my home.

I have made it clear that I am a racist, but I have welcomed members of many different races within my border fence for purposes of both business and friendship.

The "No Muslims" rule will stay in place as long as I remain above ground.

I can't control who comes into this country.

But I can darn well control who sets foot upon my little chunk of Texas dirt.

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