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Feb 13, 2017 16:32:28   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Photo ID,then paint purple thumb ,after voting Birth certificate or citizenship papers before voting.


Ah-Ha! Now you run into the old canard about votes being anonymous. If the voter is forced to provide identification, then the vote is no longer anonymous. If the vote is no longer anonymous, then the system is opened up to voter intimidation and some people may not vote because they are afraid that someone else will know what their vote was and hold it against them.

If you think that's ridiculous:

Also, you're trying to prevent 'minorities' from voting because everybody knows that 'minorities' have no identification and cannot afford to get any. So now you're not only trying to undermine the anonymity of the electoral system but you're a racist too!

And if that's not bad enough:

Also, by marking a voter with some form of indelible ink or stamp, you are singling out the person as having voted and as such they may be subjected to threats and intimidation if they will not reveal whom they voted for.

Those are all arguments that have been used in a court of law to oppose voter identification. Now, the real reason voter ID is so strongly opposed:

1/ Vote early, and vote often. Without voter ID or some marking to identify someone who already voted, no-one knows how often a given voter actually voted. They go to the polls, vote, go home, change clothes, go to the polls, vote, rinse, repeat..... If you don't stand out, poll workers are not likely to remember you and so you can vote for your favorite candidates as often as you like.

2/ Voter registration. We've all seen the videos where the activist is asking people who they would vote for and then signing them up as voters when they give the 'right answer'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTWfm6HFqMY&spfreload=10

There are just so many ways to game the system.

This from last October:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6FqbLrP1FQ

and ballot boxes being 'stuffed', again from last October:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YsRU0TFQTY

New Hampshire? Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek2rXxFEzWI

But, as any self-respecting political operator will be happy to confirm, there is no voter fraud in the United States, so what do we need voter ID laws for?

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Feb 13, 2017 16:34:57   #
moldyoldy
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
To a Democrat, all votes for Democrats are legitimate votes, regardless of who cast them or how often. Illegal aliens, dead people, children, you name it - all good. Now a vote for a non-Democrat, that's a different story. Then it's definitely voter fraud and needs to be investigated and prosecuted immediately!

One solid indicator of vote fraud is the rate of voter turnout. If more than 100% of the voting population go to the polls, that's a pretty good indicator that there's something not quite kosher going on...

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Over+100+Percent+Voter+Turnout&FORM=R5FD

Just reading the headlines will give you the shivers.
To a Democrat, all votes for Democrats are legitim... (show quote)


http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/

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Feb 13, 2017 16:37:48   #
moldyoldy
 
You do know that the Mexican woman voting illegally was a republican?
The first persons to show up registered in two states were trump family and operatives.

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Feb 13, 2017 17:06:48   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
lindajoy wrote:
Now AO you really shouldn't hold back...lol


Hey! You changed your avatar. Looks good.... Is it you?

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Feb 13, 2017 17:28:33   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
moldyoldy wrote:
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/


OK Mr. Alec McSmartyPants, why is it then that it's always Democrats who scream blue murder about voter ID or other purely common-sense voter registration requirement of the day?

Why is it that it always seems to be Republicans who are painted to be the bad guys (RACIST!!!!) whenever voter fraud raises it's ugly head as a topic of contention?

Who is it that pours scorn and derision whenever someone has the gall to question the integrity of a precinct that has a voter turnout of 150%?

Well, there's an investigation coming and it's going to be a doozie! Of course, there will be the usual tactics of obstruction and non-compliance but this investigation will proceed and shine the light of day on all the little cockroaches that are hiding in the corners of the electoral system for all to see. Oh yes, this time there will be no 'cover-up'.

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Feb 13, 2017 18:28:54   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
OK Mr. Alec McSmartyPants, why is it then that it's always Democrats who scream blue murder about voter ID or other purely common-sense voter registration requirement of the day?

Why is it that it always seems to be Republicans who are painted to be the bad guys (RACIST!!!!) whenever voter fraud raises it's ugly head as a topic of contention?

Who is it that pours scorn and derision whenever someone has the gall to question the integrity of a precinct that has a voter turnout of 150%?

Well, there's an investigation coming and it's going to be a doozie! Of course, there will be the usual tactics of obstruction and non-compliance but this investigation will proceed and shine the light of day on all the little cockroaches that are hiding in the corners of the electoral system for all to see. Oh yes, this time there will be no 'cover-up'.
OK Mr. Alec McSmartyPants, why is it then that it'... (show quote)


And I don't think your misinformed deflector of truth cares anyway... Twists everything else even with the facts given to him..

Did you see his asinine comment on the list released of 76 terrorist arrested from the 7 countries Trump banned.. He actually defended them saying not serious crimes...Terrorist and not serious crimes...Righhhhttttt.. still laughing over that one... Although there's nothing funny at all that he would defend a charged terrorist in jail for their crimes as not serious!

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Feb 13, 2017 18:44:15   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
pafret wrote:
Me, my children, my Nephews and Nieces, my grandchildren, my cousins and I bet the same can be said for all of their relatives.



Ive got mine
it was made August 29,1926
no big deal

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Feb 13, 2017 18:57:30   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
Nope 11 caught here in Colorado in early voting no less... and how about the states with voters claiming their vote for a Republican gave them a straight D vote during election, remember those???

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/11/08/election-day-voters-report-long-lines-intimidation-and-confusion-in-some-parts-of-the-country/?utm_term=.57291f0ba00b



the woman convicted of illegal voting
claims she did not know that she was doing something wrong
and I believe her
this lady had been in the US for a long time and thought of herself as a legal citizen
how many others are there in Texas,in California,In New Mexico,that feel the same way
they dont even think they are breaking the law
then there are the ones who know they are breaking the law ,but vote anyhow

IDS for each and every voter in our country is a must

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Feb 13, 2017 19:04:06   #
moldyoldy
 
lindajoy wrote:
And I don't think your misinformed deflector of truth cares anyway... Twists everything else even with the facts given to him..

Did you see his asinine comment on the list released of 76 terrorist arrested from the 7 countries Trump banned.. He actually defended them saying not serious crimes...Terrorist and not serious crimes...Righhhhttttt.. still laughing over that one... Although there's nothing funny at all that he would defend a charged terrorist in jail for their crimes as not serious!
And I don't think your misinformed deflector of tr... (show quote)


Maybe you did not understand the subject. It was about violent terrorists, and the poster gave a list of money launderers.

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Feb 13, 2017 19:10:02   #
moldyoldy
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
OK Mr. Alec McSmartyPants, why is it then that it's always Democrats who scream blue murder about voter ID or other purely common-sense voter registration requirement of the day?

Why is it that it always seems to be Republicans who are painted to be the bad guys (RACIST!!!!) whenever voter fraud raises it's ugly head as a topic of contention?

Who is it that pours scorn and derision whenever someone has the gall to question the integrity of a precinct that has a voter turnout of 150%?

Well, there's an investigation coming and it's going to be a doozie! Of course, there will be the usual tactics of obstruction and non-compliance but this investigation will proceed and shine the light of day on all the little cockroaches that are hiding in the corners of the electoral system for all to see. Oh yes, this time there will be no 'cover-up'.
OK Mr. Alec McSmartyPants, why is it then that it'... (show quote)


There are very good reasons for questioning voter ID laws. I would welcome an independent investigation to finally put this to bed.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/court-north-carolina-voter-id-law-targeted-black-voters/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/03/courts-are-finally-pointing-out-the-racism-behind-voter-id-laws/

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/study-finds-voter-id-laws-hurt-young-minorities-088773


Voter intimidation too.
http://uproxx.com/news/georgia-town-using-police-to-challenge-voting-rights/

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Feb 13, 2017 19:20:00   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
badbobby wrote:
the woman convicted of illegal voting
claims she did not know that she was doing something wrong
and I believe her
this lady had been in the US for a long time and thought of herself as a legal citizen
how many others are there in Texas,in California,In New Mexico,that feel the same way
they dont even think they are breaking the law
then there are the ones who know they are breaking the law ,but vote anyhow

IDS for each and every voter in our country is a must


I don't necessarily disagree especially when we had Mr. WHO telling them to vote.. But being in this country as long as she was tells me she should have known..She also new she never went through immigration to actually be legal too...

Id's are a must along with killing Ss# when the person dies so they can not be used illegally later.. Flagged in other words in not being active... Should be simple with out technology...

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Feb 13, 2017 19:23:26   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Maybe you did not understand the subject. It was about violent terrorists, and the poster gave a list of money launderers.


I understood it just fine ... Our next war could very well be cyber finances or as I said to you then did you forget about Japan trying to hack our banking codes..
You support terrorist, it's obvious.. you make any excuse you can muster to justify killing cops to defending terrorist... Go to hell!

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Feb 13, 2017 20:38:04   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
son of witless wrote:
Democrats always tell us that nobody ever ever votes illegally in America. We don't need no stinking voter IDs.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/11/mexican-woman-in-texas-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud.html


As I just said in another post. The progressive communist democrat party are never to be trusted. They lie, cheat, steal, riot, loot, defraud and even commit murder in the name money and power. Democrats are not your friends, they are not your pals and they certainly are not your countrymen.

The communist democrat party poses the biggest threat to humanity and freedom of choice since Hitler, Stalin, Mao and a few other leftist tyrants of the 20th century. In lieu of dictators, the left has decided to rule through a bunch of technocrats. The progressive elites have now taken control of the supply of money, the propaganda machines, both ruling parties, a good portion of the military and local and state police authorities. Their silent couple and their transfer of the nation's wealth has now been interrupted by Trump. It's going to be very volatile from here on out. Be prepared to defend yourselves from the insanity of the left.
They will say and do anything to maintain their relevance and their illusion of power. It's this same group of leftist control freaks that want you disarmed with their so called gun control.

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Feb 13, 2017 20:52:43   #
son of witless
 
pafret wrote:
My all time money hole was a 1964 Renault Dauphine, I deliberately chose it over the same priced Volkswagon because it had a water cooled engine and heaters. I cried tears of joy the day it caught fire and burned out completely.


My Charger was possessed. I remember coming back on a cold winter's night with a car load of under age drinkers and having the dash short out. I had the headlight covers going up and down with the headlights going on and off. Somehow we made it home. That was just one of many adventures in driving I had with it. If I could've found a flooded quarry nearby I would have driven it into the water to get rid of it, but first I would have put a bullet through the engine block just to kill the evil spirit inside of it.

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Feb 13, 2017 22:01:51   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
lindajoy wrote:
And I don't think your misinformed deflector of truth cares anyway... Twists everything else even with the facts given to him..

Did you see his asinine comment on the list released of 76 terrorist arrested from the 7 countries Trump banned.. He actually defended them saying not serious crimes...Terrorist and not serious crimes...Righhhhttttt.. still laughing over that one... Although there's nothing funny at all that he would defend a charged terrorist in jail for their crimes as not serious!
And I don't think your misinformed deflector of tr... (show quote)


Meh, I was going to ignore him but I was bored...

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