Tax cuts, spending increases, and debt. The Republican Trifecta.
Jan 19, 2017 11:52:44 #
PeterS wrote:
Hey, all I'm trying to do is get a straight answer. If they are against debt why are they pushing for policies that have increased it in the past?
I think they only call it bad if it is done by the Democrats... GOP spending with no payment is always good for them...
Jan 19, 2017 14:21:30 #
permafrost wrote:
Why on earth would anyone champion a tactic which ... (show quote)
Liberals have been advocating failed tactics and policies for years. Look at Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, etc. all administered by Liberals. The more taxes are raised, then more money is spent. To promote and sustain "entitlements" costs a lot of money. The return on that money seems to be more crime, more drugs, more violence.
Jan 19, 2017 16:42:16 #
snowbear37 wrote:
Liberals have been advocating failed tactics and policies for years. Look at Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, etc. all administered by Liberals. The more taxes are raised, then more money is spent. To promote and sustain "entitlements" costs a lot of money. The return on that money seems to be more crime, more drugs, more violence.
Yeah, but this failed policy is all your own and you guys are dancing all around it. Why do you care about debt when a democrat is president but you could give a fuk about it when a republican is at the controls? It's a simple question, do you guys really not have an answer?
Jan 19, 2017 16:48:49 #
snowbear37 wrote:
Liberals have been advocating failed tactics and policies for years. Look at Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, etc. all administered by Liberals. The more taxes are raised, then more money is spent. To promote and sustain "entitlements" costs a lot of money. The return on that money seems to be more crime, more drugs, more violence.
Look at all the cities you wish, but do not be selective.. Look at San Diego, Seattle, Minneapolis, Rochester MN, each time you find problems, nearly every city has them, look for the real reason also look for what is being done to help...
Jan 19, 2017 16:55:41 #
permafrost wrote:
Look at all the cities you wish, but do not be selective.. Look at San Diego, Seattle, Minneapolis, Rochester MN, each time you find problems, nearly every city has them, look for the real reason also look for what is being done to help...
All he's doing is cherry picking problems in order to set up a strawman argument. Nothing new--still ducking the question at hand...
Jan 19, 2017 16:58:44 #
PeterS wrote:
All he's doing is cherry picking problems in order to set up a strawman argument. Nothing new--still ducking the question at hand...
yea, they keep doing that and think they make some kind of point.. They are all nuts...
Jan 19, 2017 19:30:55 #
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, but this failed policy is all your own and you guys are dancing all around it. Why do you care about debt when a democrat is president but you could give a fuk about it when a republican is at the controls? It's a simple question, do you guys really not have an answer?
Do you even know what you're talking about? "..this failed policy is all your own..."??? You're the one dancing around what I'm talking about. You don't even know what Trump is going to do regarding the economy. You're all excuses.
Jan 19, 2017 19:34:24 #
snowbear37 wrote:
Do you even know what you're talking about? "..this failed policy is all your own..."??? You're the one dancing around what I'm talking about. You don't even know what Trump is going to do regarding the economy. You're all excuses.
I'm assuming that Trump is going to cut taxes and increase spending as he promised. Should I assume he was lying just to get your vote or should I take him as his word and respond accordingly? And just what excuses am I making? Are you just stringing words together for the fun?
Jan 19, 2017 19:38:16 #
permafrost wrote:
Look at all the cities you wish, but do not be selective.. Look at San Diego, Seattle, Minneapolis, Rochester MN, each time you find problems, nearly every city has them, look for the real reason also look for what is being done to help...
Do you know what "etc" means?? Maybe I should have given a list of every city in the country! One of the "real reasons" is entitlement programs which cost billions of dollars every year. You and your buddy can ignore it, but that doesn't solve the problem. Neither does "throwing more money at it". You guys blather on about "the economy" in general and you try to play the "numbers game" without ever trying to figure out what the root causes are. Yes, every city has problems, but not all of them raise taxes so they can give away more money.
Jan 19, 2017 19:43:54 #
snowbear37 wrote:
Do you know what "etc" means?? Maybe I s... (show quote)
what do you consider entitlement programs?? SS? Medicare?? Unemployment insurance??
Jan 19, 2017 20:44:10 #
PeterS wrote:
Didn't you listen to Donald. He plans on increasing spending not cutting. How can you drain the swamp when Donald is going to fill it full of debt?
Selective hearing ,, see a DR. . Rome was not built in a day Pete , the border wall will not appear 12 noon tomorrow , The mess obamster , GW left will not disappear overnight , unicorns are not real , and utopia is but a dream ..
Jan 20, 2017 07:09:49 #
PeterS wrote:
Donald Trump has announced that he intends to cut ... (show quote)
Don't quote me, for I could have some of this wrong. As I recall, President, Bill Clinton left office with a surplus, as I also recall, Newt Gingrich, I think was Speaker of the house during that time, and the Republicans', were the architects of many of the programs that were forced on Clinton that created the surplus.
Unfortunately, George W. blew it by signing every spending bill that came across his desk, while he was in office.
Jan 20, 2017 09:50:12 #
PeterS wrote:
He's going to employ the same policies that caused debt to increase under both Reagan and Bush. Why are we to assume debt won't do the same under Trump? Does he have a magic wand that the other two didn't have?
PeterS...
You do understand Pres Obama has had Our Debt increase by more than any other Pres!!! $8 Trillion in increased Debt!!!
And just as FY 2009 started in October 2008, and was thus considered Pres Bush's Debt of $1.8 Trillion, so too any Debt increase incurred in FY 2017 that started in October 2016 will be considered Pres Obama's and will be added to his already $8 Trillion...
Pres Trump will be responsible for FY 2018 thru FY 2021... And only after September 2018 will we have an idea of Pres Trump's handling of the Debt relative to Pres Obama...
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