I Have a Serious Question about the Affordable Care Act (Page 2): I agree ,, that is my option also . There are other things that can be done , allowing competition across state lines...

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

cSc61 wrote:

When politicians and media pundits on television discuss what's to become of Obamacare, the phase I keep hearing over and over is "repeal & replace." "Obamacare must be repealed & replaced ASAP!" The biggest argument these days seem to be around the 'replace' portion. What will Republicans replace the Affordable Care Act with ... and, how can they repeal Obamacare before they have something to replace it with.

Here's my question. Why does it need to be replaced with anything. When did repeal & replace become this nation's ONLY option. Why not just repeal it and go back to where we were 8 years ago. I don't remember the country clamoring after the government to take over our healthcare before Obama's lackeys came to power in 2009. Yes, there were issues regarding a small percentage of citizens who were uninsured, and an even smaller fraction of those who found themselves un-insurable. This issue needs to be studied to determine how best to help this 5-7% of the population. But when did we as a nation just settle on the fact that the Government must control and govern the healthcare of 350 million Americans in order to provide a safety net for the few?

Why not just repeal it - period. Go back to square one -- pre-2009 -- and fix what needed mending before the socialist came to power and stole one-seventh our nations GDP out from under us. Seems we're being brainwashed yet again. This time we're being told we can't repeal Obamacare before we have something to replace it with. They want everyone repeating the same phrase over and over instead of asking the question, WHY!? Why does the government need to be involved at all?

I'll tell you why ... because they created yet another entitlement program ... a program that has become unmanageable, unsustainable, and nearly impossible to back out of. And there isn't a single politician, Republican or Democrat, who wants to eliminate an entitlement program that garners them votes, power, and allows them control another layer of our lives.

I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness but I say "REPEAL ONLY - REPLACE WITH NOTHING!"

I'd like to hear from "repeal & replace" advocates why I'm wrong.

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I agree ,, that is my option also . There are other things that can be done , allowing competition across state lines , tort reform , removing illegal back to the border pointing south ,, why should we pay to ship them back to their home country . Mexico allowed them passage let Mexico deal with them ..

Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD

cSc61 wrote:

When politicians and media pundits on television discuss what's to become of Obamacare, the phase I keep hearing over and over is "repeal & replace." "Obamacare must be repealed & replaced ASAP!" The biggest argument these days seem to be around the 'replace' portion. What will Republicans replace the Affordable Care Act with ... and, how can they repeal Obamacare before they have something to replace it with.

Here's my question. Why does it need to be replaced with anything. When did repeal & replace become this nation's ONLY option. Why not just repeal it and go back to where we were 8 years ago. I don't remember the country clamoring after the government to take over our healthcare before Obama's lackeys came to power in 2009. Yes, there were issues regarding a small percentage of citizens who were uninsured, and an even smaller fraction of those who found themselves un-insurable. This issue needs to be studied to determine how best to help this 5-7% of the population. But when did we as a nation just settle on the fact that the Government must control and govern the healthcare of 350 million Americans in order to provide a safety net for the few?

Why not just repeal it - period. Go back to square one -- pre-2009 -- and fix what needed mending before the socialist came to power and stole one-seventh our nations GDP out from under us. Seems we're being brainwashed yet again. This time we're being told we can't repeal Obamacare before we have something to replace it with. They want everyone repeating the same phrase over and over instead of asking the question, WHY!? Why does the government need to be involved at all?

I'll tell you why ... because they created yet another entitlement program ... a program that has become unmanageable, unsustainable, and nearly impossible to back out of. And there isn't a single politician, Republican or Democrat, who wants to eliminate an entitlement program that garners them votes, power, and allows them control another layer of our lives.

I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness but I say "REPEAL ONLY - REPLACE WITH NOTHING!"

I'd like to hear from "repeal & replace" advocates why I'm wrong.

When politicians and media pundits on television d... (show quote)

A little historical perspective: the need for a better health care system goes back to FDR.

plainlogic

Lets take one thing at a time. Firstly, the republicans are working on a replacement, exactly what it is, We're not privy t: to me iso. The speak is: a repeal and replacement will take place simultaneously.

It seems the reason they can't go back is: The number of people emigrating to this nation, legal and illegal, the number of high rates of unemployed created by the administration. Means our old system can't take all the expense on the entitlements, so, the health care being what it is, needs Government to institute a new system, where, the haves give to the needy, whether they are poor, legal, illegal, or unemployed. need to give up some cash to support those heath needs.
You see the nation DID NOT settle on the Government control, your politicians, the ones you voted for did the instituting of it. Remember Pelosi? she said you had to sign it to see what's in it. Government is the masters of their subjects, you and 350 million.

Just can't repeal it, it needs to go through the constitutional process which takes mucho time, that's the way our system works.

What you stated at the last IS the knee jerk reaction to the entitlement programs. There you said it, they give entitlements for the enticement of votes from you and I and the voting age of the 350 million.

The progressives have worked for years to come to this point of total control, call it socialist, marxist, communist whatever and it was snatched away from their grips. They are outraged to be so close, yet, now, so far away. Does it make you any less unnerved? naw, doubt it, but, keep attuned to what all those elves are doing to us in Washington, keep your phone nearby. The vote does count,

cSc61 wrote:

When politicians and media pundits on television discuss what's to become of it.Obamacare, the phase I keep hearing over and over is "repeal & replace." "Obamacare must be repealed & replaced ASAP!" The biggest argument these days seem to be around the 'replace' portion. What will Republicans replace the Affordable Care Act with ... and, how can they repeal Obamacare before they have something to replace it with.

Here's my question. Why does it need to be replaced with anything. When did repeal & replace become this nation's ONLY option. Why not just repeal it and go back to where we were 8 years ago. I don't remember the country clamoring after the government to take over our healthcare before Obama's lackeys came to power in 2009. Yes, there were issues regarding a small percentage of citizens who were uninsured, and an even smaller fraction of those who found themselves un-insurable. This issue needs to be studied to determine how best to help this 5-7% of the population. But when did we as a nation just settle on the fact that the Government must control and govern the healthcare of 350 million Americans in order to provide a safety net for the few?

Why not just repeal it - period. Go back to square one -- pre-2009 -- and fix what needed mending before the socialist came to power and stole one-seventh our nations GDP out from under us. Seems we're being brainwashed yet again. This time we're being told we can't repeal Obamacare before we have something to replace it with. They want everyone repeating the same phrase over and over instead of asking the question, WHY!? Why does the government need to be involved at all?

I'll tell you why ... because they created yet another entitlement program ... a program that has become unmanageable, unsustainable, and nearly impossible to back out of. And there isn't a single politician, Republican or Democrat, who wants to eliminate an entitlement program that garners them votes, power, and allows them control another layer of our lives.

I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness but I say "REPEAL ONLY - REPLACE WITH NOTHING!"

I'd like to hear from "repeal & replace" advocates why I'm wrong.

When politicians and media pundits on television d... (show quote)

plainlogic

Bravo.. Just remember, politicians are politicians no matter where they are.

L8erToots wrote:

Well, it didn't come about just in 2008 - Hillary Clinton tried to force it on us when she was First Lady and luckily an international crisis sidelined her attempt. That being said, I agree with you 100% - we don't need to replace it with anything on a federal level. Let the states determine how to take care of their uninsured if their voters deem they should...per the Constitution.

son of witless

working class stiff wrote:

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That makes no sense. Obama Care not the Affordable Care Act raised costs for many. To now argue that under the old system costs went up makes no sense.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

son of witless wrote:

That makes no sense. Obama Care not the Affordable Care Act raised costs for many. To now argue that under the old system costs went up makes no sense.

What makes no sense is that you do not know that Obamacare IS the Affordable Care Act.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I guess the War on Poverty is a real war. you are an idiot.

working class stiff wrote:

What makes no sense is that you do not know that Obamacare IS the Affordable Care Act.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

JFlorio wrote:

I guess the War on Poverty is a real war. you are an idiot.

Really? Is the ACA not Obamacare? I have no idea what you are on about.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You made it sound like because the act is called affordable it is. That simple enough for you?

working class stiff wrote:

Really? Is the ACA not Obamacare? I have no idea what you are on about.

Richard94611

That sounds like "repeal and replace" to me.

JFlorio wrote:

Amen brother. About time someone said it. Figure out away to cover the uncovered and let the rest of us alone.

Richard94611

[Are there any estimates anyone here has seem as to how many people saw their rates increase? And how many of these then got subsidies to help them pay? I would like to see the figures.

quote=son of witless]That makes no sense. Obama Care not the Affordable Care Act raised costs for many. To now argue that under the old system costs went up makes no sense.[/quote]

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

The one truth no one speaks is if we cover pre-conditions, put no caps on amounts charged and say everyone has a right to insurance then either taxes must go up or deficits. There is no money tree.

Richard94611 wrote:

That sounds like "repeal and replace" to me.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

JFlorio wrote:

You made it sound like because the act is called affordable it is. That simple enough for you?

Maybe you should read the post I was responding to....which made the case the ACA and Obamacare were two different things. And if you weren't so willing to jump on someone you would have known that. If you want to call it the Expensive Care Act, be my guest but I was using the name of the legislation.

son of witless

working class stiff wrote:

What makes no sense is that you do not know that Obamacare IS the Affordable Care Act.

How is it affordable? Premiums and deductibles are so high that it is anything but affordable. I say it is the UCA. The Unaffordable Care Act.

Richard94611

[so raise taxes, for God's sake.

quote=JFlorio]The one truth no one speaks is if we cover pre-conditions, put no caps on amounts charged and say everyone has a right to insurance then either taxes must go up or deficits. There is no money tree.[/quote]