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Jan 11, 2017 07:47:08   #
Liberty Tree
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
(Caution: what you will read below are unsubstantiated--as yet--allegations against Trump's possible collusion with Putin in the cyber-attack on our government to sway the election in his favor. Even if the allegations turn out to be totally false, Tweety could have obviated any such questions with a full disclosure of his business interests and Taxes. The specter of grave conflicts on interests that might influence him and adversely effect our nation needs to be brought into the light of day. He must immediately divest himself and put all assets into a blind trust--or everything he does will be suspect. Transparency is vital with his huge holdings around the world. Maybe it is true that his assets ONLY total 550 million, still that is leverage for espionage and favor. His behavior is definitely suspicious, given all the recent developments by our Intelligence Agencies.)

Citing unnamed U.S. officials, CNN reported on Tuesday afternoon that “classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.”
The documents, CNN reports, are based on information gathered by a former British intelligence operative considered to be credible by U.S. officials. While CNN is electing not to disclose the specific contents of the documents at this time, their report on them notes they “also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.”
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-compromising-information-russia-6f861b27b87b#.566dybap3

Unsubstantiated allegations developed at the request of Democratic Party researchers that Donald Trump was compromised and in league with the Russians were presented to both President Obama and President-elect Trump in intelligence briefings last week.
The FBI says it is investigating the allegations, which party operatives had delivered to the FBI and numerous news organizations before and since the election.
The claims include allegations that Trump was personally compromised by the Russians and that Trump aides were involved in organizing the Russian hack of the Democratic Party. None of the allegations has been verified by ABC News. Some specific allegations have brought sharp denials.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/fbi-investigating-unconfirmed-claims-trump-compromised-during-election-005844756--abc-news-topstories.html
(Caution: what you will read below are unsubstanti... (show quote)


The MSM will condemn Trump with little proof. The Trump Davidian cultists would defend Trump no matter what the truth. Russia would deny any compromising information they may have on Trump to use later as blackmail and leverage to get what they want from him. Trump who can never be accused of transparency will just try to tweet his way out of any attention to this. That is the state of the nation.

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Jan 11, 2017 08:27:44   #
Rivers
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
(Caution: what you will read below are unsubstantiated--as yet--allegations against Trump's possible collusion with Putin in the cyber-attack on our government to sway the election in his favor. Even if the allegations turn out to be totally false, Tweety could have obviated any such questions with a full disclosure of his business interests and Taxes. The specter of grave conflicts on interests that might influence him and adversely effect our nation needs to be brought into the light of day. He must immediately divest himself and put all assets into a blind trust--or everything he does will be suspect. Transparency is vital with his huge holdings around the world. Maybe it is true that his assets ONLY total 550 million, still that is leverage for espionage and favor. His behavior is definitely suspicious, given all the recent developments by our Intelligence Agencies.)

Citing unnamed U.S. officials, CNN reported on Tuesday afternoon that “classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.”
The documents, CNN reports, are based on information gathered by a former British intelligence operative considered to be credible by U.S. officials. While CNN is electing not to disclose the specific contents of the documents at this time, their report on them notes they “also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.”
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-compromising-information-russia-6f861b27b87b#.566dybap3

Unsubstantiated allegations developed at the request of Democratic Party researchers that Donald Trump was compromised and in league with the Russians were presented to both President Obama and President-elect Trump in intelligence briefings last week.
The FBI says it is investigating the allegations, which party operatives had delivered to the FBI and numerous news organizations before and since the election.
The claims include allegations that Trump was personally compromised by the Russians and that Trump aides were involved in organizing the Russian hack of the Democratic Party. None of the allegations has been verified by ABC News. Some specific allegations have brought sharp denials.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/fbi-investigating-unconfirmed-claims-trump-compromised-during-election-005844756--abc-news-topstories.html
(Caution: what you will read below are unsubstanti... (show quote)


You, and PeterS, are not even worth responding to anymore....just post boring bullshit.

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Jan 11, 2017 09:27:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Randy131 wrote:
Accusations, accusations, and more accusations, but never ever an ounce of proof. Our judicial system was founded on the premise that one is innocent until proven guilty, but not for the liberals, progressives, and Democrats, synonymous with socialists, communists, and fascists, for they insist anyone is guilty that can't prove themselves innocent of mere accusations, the Democratic way to distribute justice.

There is no law that states Trump must make his tax returns public, for all Americans, they are their own private matter, and it is against the law for even the federal government to release them to anyone without the permission of the one whose tax returns they are. But those same liberals, progressives, and Democrats don't care, they only care that they are allowed to force anyone into giving up their privacy, and they do this all the time.

Trump released his official 'Financial Statement', which has much more information about his finances than does his tax returns, but the problem with them is that they weren't forced to be released, so the liberals, progressives, and Democrats don't want what gives them a lot more information of Trump's finances, than would his tax returns.

If this so called proof of these accusations are in the custody of these news outlets, than they are not, or no longer, considered confidential or secret intelligence, so why not show the public what is being used to make accusations, unless it is such poor proof of the accusations, that it would make the releaser of the information a laughing stock?

The liberals, progressives, and Democrats want to destroy Trump's Presidency, before it even is allowed to start, because they have a terrifically great fear that Trump may be successful, and make America great again, and the American people will see him as they once did Ronald Reagan, and re-elect him with an even bigger landslide victory in the next Presidential election. So they condemn him now, before he proves them, as they have been for the last 8 years, wrong about everything, and causing great suffering to the American people, with the lowest 'US Workforce' participation rate in the last 40 years, despite a supposedly economic recovery of 7 years and 6 months straight. They more than doubled the national debt in just 8 years, that it took all our previous Presidents 232 years to acquire, while averaging $1.34 trillion deficits for each of the last 8 years, when no other President in US history ever came close to having a single year of a trillion dollar deficit.

The American people know all this and didn't give a damn about Trump releasing his tax returns, but instead didn't want another 4 years of Obama's failed policies and agendas, as Hillary Clinton actually promised them if she were elected President, and the main reason the American people chose Donald Trump as their next President. Be a man and at least allow Trump to show what type of President he will be, before you condemn him with just accusations, because of your fear that he may be successful, and become an American hero and icon.
Accusations, accusations, and more accusations, bu... (show quote)




randy,

These accusations clearly call for a congressional hearing.. If nothing is turned up, then 7 or 8 more hearings, because as the right wing insists, something will come out if we simply keep digging..

why not spend those millions and those years and show that the something may indeed be hidden... As they say, America needs to know... DIG DIG DIG

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Jan 11, 2017 09:36:01   #
Singularity
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I'm surprised that someone like Trump has disheartened you.

You've always seemed to be somewhat hardhearted.

I would never have guessed that you could be thrown off of your high horse by a big, rich, power hungry, fuzzy haired white dude.

So did you really think that the Clinton Pig was presidential ?

Can you see now how much of a douche she really is ?


Your astute observation neglects the fact that I no longer ride due to my old back injury. That keeps me off my high horse figuratively as well. Few take an old crippled woman seriously, lol!

Some see me as a victim. But I have studied martial arts and self defense. I once brought a 350#, 6 ft creep trying to attack me and my friends with my cane (short walks) to his knees from my wheelchair (long hauls.) He apologized and slunk away.

Yeah, surprised the hell outta me too, that it worked! Doubt Trump would be as easy to dissuade, though, as he is creepier than any other I've ever met.

No, I could not vote for Hillary either.

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Jan 11, 2017 09:36:57   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Loki wrote:
A Democrat controlled Senate let Clinton off. What makes you think that a Republican controlled House would impeach? Or that a Republican controlled Senate would convict? For that matter, Trump has done nothing impeachable, you twit. You have to commit a crime while holding public office. Trump has not. Do you think he doesn't have an army of lawyers who have already sorted this out? Do you actually believe you are more knowledgeable than them because you managed to Google a section of the United States Code?
A Democrat controlled Senate let Clinton off. What... (show quote)




Loki,


I gotta chuckle. Your post is nearly word for word the same as those made when some dummy called for Obama to be impeached.. LOL Yes, we must have a crime before we can impeach.. Some have a difficult time with that idea...

All that said, a great number of people are looking for an impeachment at some time or other.. and that does include a number of the GOP..

I would only like the impeachment if we can extend it to include a doz or more of his close staff. Plus the VP, Speaker of the House.. the whole bunch...

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Jan 11, 2017 09:45:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I hope the Democrats waste four years trying to impeach Trump. You'll get slaughtered even worse in 2018 than you have been. Don't worry though. Remember Nixon? Republicans went after Nixon every bit as much as the Democrats. If Trump has committed a crime and it is proven. Impeach him.
permafrost wrote:
Loki,


I gotta chuckle. Your post is nearly word for word the same as those made when some dummy called for Obama to be impeached.. LOL Yes, we must have a crime before we can impeach.. Some have a difficult time with that idea...

All that said, a great number of people are looking for an impeachment at some time or other.. and that does include a number of the GOP..

I would only like the impeachment if we can extend it to include a doz or more of his close staff. Plus the VP, Speaker of the House.. the whole bunch...
Loki, br br br I gotta chuckle. Your post is ne... (show quote)

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Jan 11, 2017 09:53:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
I hope the Democrats waste four years trying to impeach Trump. You'll get slaughtered even worse in 2018 than you have been. Don't worry though. Remember Nixon? Republicans went after Nixon every bit as much as the Democrats. If Trump has committed a crime and it is proven. Impeach him.




You do have a point about the GOP and Nixon.. I think that come 2018 two things will have changed. The stupid Dems will have become a bit less stupid.. (they better be) and a number of voters will discover that what was good for them is not what the GOP supports.. And certainly not trump...he only supports his wealth search..

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Jan 11, 2017 10:01:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
Loki,


I gotta chuckle. Your post is nearly word for word the same as those made when some dummy called for Obama to be impeached.. LOL Yes, we must have a crime before we can impeach.. Some have a difficult time with that idea...

All that said, a great number of people are looking for an impeachment at some time or other.. and that does include a number of the GOP..

I would only like the impeachment if we can extend it to include a doz or more of his close staff. Plus the VP, Speaker of the House.. the whole bunch...
Loki, br br br I gotta chuckle. Your post is ne... (show quote)


You can drag that bastard Paul Ryan behind your truck down a dirt road and I'll buy the gas. He's a Democrat in all but name anyway.

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Jan 11, 2017 10:11:30   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
They are having congressional hearings, on Russia's influence in the elections, again without an ounce of evidence that would prove the accusations, but it's a good excuse for the liberals, progressives, and Democrats to blame Hillary's election loss on.

JOKE OF THE YEAR - Question: What did Russia do to Influence the Election? Answer: They helped the Democrats finally Deliver on their Promises of Transparency!

The joke of the year is the only thing that any investigation will find evidence of the accusations that Russia helped Donald Trump win the election. And this is even untrue, for Julian Assange has already said many times that Russia had nothing to do with the DNC and Clinton campaign e-mails that Wikileaks was given by a leaker who worked for the DNC. Julian Assange even implied the leaker was Seth Rich, who was mysteriously murdered a short time after Wikileaks started releasing those e-mails, and Wikileaks, for the first time ever, offered a reward of $20,000.00 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of any of those involved in the murder of Seth Rich.

In the short 6 week period after the murder of Seth Rich, another 4 mysterious murders occurred, whose victims were also either DNC employees or Clinton associates scheduled to testify by deposition about crimes committed by the Clintons through their charitable foundation. No suspects have been found for any of these mysterious murders, nor has even a motive for them been discovered, and like all the other hundreds of mysterious murders linked to the Clintons, I'll bet that none of these 5 murders will ever be solved either.

What should be investigated by the FBI, is the connection between these 5 murders with the DNC and the Clinton campaign, but alas, with Obama controlling all the federal government law enforcement agencies, creating a double standard dual justice system that protects Obama and all his Democratic cronies and cohorts, the FBI will investigate not one of these mysterious murders, that are obviously connected with the Clintons, the DNC, and this election.



permafrost wrote:
randy,

These accusations clearly call for a congressional hearing.. If nothing is turned up, then 7 or 8 more hearings, because as the right wing insists, something will come out if we simply keep digging..

why not spend those millions and those years and show that the something may indeed be hidden... As they say, America needs to know... DIG DIG DIG

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Jan 11, 2017 10:14:48   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Jack and Jill is the speed for liberal, doesn't confuse them to much



JFlorio wrote:
I find thinkprogress to be one of the most reputable publications. Right next to Mad Magazine.

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Jan 11, 2017 11:00:01   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
(Caution: what you will read below are unsubstantiated--as yet--allegations against Trump's possible collusion with Putin in the cyber-attack on our government to sway the election in his favor. Even if the allegations turn out to be totally false, Tweety could have obviated any such questions with a full disclosure of his business interests and Taxes. The specter of grave conflicts on interests that might influence him and adversely effect our nation needs to be brought into the light of day. He must immediately divest himself and put all assets into a blind trust--or everything he does will be suspect. Transparency is vital with his huge holdings around the world. Maybe it is true that his assets ONLY total 550 million, still that is leverage for espionage and favor. His behavior is definitely suspicious, given all the recent developments by our Intelligence Agencies.)

Citing unnamed U.S. officials, CNN reported on Tuesday afternoon that “classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.”
The documents, CNN reports, are based on information gathered by a former British intelligence operative considered to be credible by U.S. officials. While CNN is electing not to disclose the specific contents of the documents at this time, their report on them notes they “also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.”
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-compromising-information-russia-6f861b27b87b#.566dybap3

Unsubstantiated allegations developed at the request of Democratic Party researchers that Donald Trump was compromised and in league with the Russians were presented to both President Obama and President-elect Trump in intelligence briefings last week.
The FBI says it is investigating the allegations, which party operatives had delivered to the FBI and numerous news organizations before and since the election.
The claims include allegations that Trump was personally compromised by the Russians and that Trump aides were involved in organizing the Russian hack of the Democratic Party. None of the allegations has been verified by ABC News. Some specific allegations have brought sharp denials.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/fbi-investigating-unconfirmed-claims-trump-compromised-during-election-005844756--abc-news-topstories.html
(Caution: what you will read below are unsubstanti... (show quote)




drgross-sounds like the so called unclassified report, "we assess" or "we believe" which equate to WAGs. If ABC or CNN did not report fake news they would be out of business. What a crock of crap !! Good Luck America !!!

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Jan 11, 2017 11:12:58   #
Rosech
 
I find those who still can't accept their Hillary lost so it must be the fault of us, Putin and Lord knows who else. She shot herself in the foot and lost fair and square. But the dying on the vine as we write are doing all they can to send false stories, complaints, and casting all the "dark" nonsense they can because they are now completely irrelevant as "news" and "reporters" as they are not to be believed and hate the fact that Trump will deal with American citizens in an open manner and not cloaked in communism and stupidity. They just keep trying to convince the brainless that there is a connection with Putin which is completely ludicrous. They continue to cover up the traitors such as Soros, many in Congress, and definitely Obama and his crew of mostly muslims. They hate it now that we are more aware and informed than ever before and will not put up with their garbage and lies and the fact that most of MSM is owned by Soros and invested in by many muslims and have been for decades. They think if they repeat the same things 100 times, they will have credence. No way, Jose! Your day has come and gone and we the deplorables have taken over. AND AMAZINGLY NO PRESIDENT HAS TO SHOW HIS INCOME TAX RETURNS WE DID NOT SEE OBAMA'S NOR CLINTON'S DID WE. It started as a voluntary thing back in the time of Nixon and hence they can or cannot show their income tax returns. I have yet to see Hillary's or Obama's or anyone else's for some time. Have you shown yours to anyone or the country? Of course not, so that train left the station a long time ago. If and when Trump wants you to see his return, maybe he will do it but IT IS NOT A LAW NOR A REGULATION but considered a gesture, pure and simple. Time to stop believing MSM trash and really do your research and get informed because, frankly, you are danger to our freedom with your brainlessness and lack of knowing truths.

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Jan 11, 2017 11:58:01   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Randy131 wrote:
They are having congressional hearings, on Russia's influence in the elections, again without an ounce of evidence that would prove the accusations, but it's a good excuse for the liberals, progressives, and Democrats to blame Hillary's election loss on.

JOKE OF THE YEAR - Question: What did Russia do to Influence the Election? Answer: They helped the Democrats finally Deliver on their Promises of Transparency!

The joke of the year is the only thing that any investigation will find evidence of the accusations that Russia helped Donald Trump win the election. And this is even untrue, for Julian Assange has already said many times that Russia had nothing to do with the DNC and Clinton campaign e-mails that Wikileaks was given by a leaker who worked for the DNC. Julian Assange even implied the leaker was Seth Rich, who was mysteriously murdered a short time after Wikileaks started releasing those e-mails, and Wikileaks, for the first time ever, offered a reward of $20,000.00 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of any of those involved in the murder of Seth Rich.

In the short 6 week period after the murder of Seth Rich, another 4 mysterious murders occurred, whose victims were also either DNC employees or Clinton associates scheduled to testify by deposition about crimes committed by the Clintons through their charitable foundation. No suspects have been found for any of these mysterious murders, nor has even a motive for them been discovered, and like all the other hundreds of mysterious murders linked to the Clintons, I'll bet that none of these 5 murders will ever be solved either.

What should be investigated by the FBI, is the connection between these 5 murders with the DNC and the Clinton campaign, but alas, with Obama controlling all the federal government law enforcement agencies, creating a double standard dual justice system that protects Obama and all his Democratic cronies and cohorts, the FBI will investigate not one of these mysterious murders, that are obviously connected with the Clintons, the DNC, and this election.
They are having congressional hearings, on Russia'... (show quote)




Randy,

Assange did not say Russia had nothing to do with hacking information, only that Russia gave him nothing. Go betweens gave the Russian information to Assange..

The murder conspiracies have been a wish dream of the right wing for 25 years.. Never true, never was..

CLAIM: DNC staffer Seth Rich was gunned down to prevent him from meeting with the FBI over plans to testify against Hillary Clinton.

FALSE

According to Washington, D.C. television station WUSA, a string of robberies had occurred in the area where Rich was killed, and police believe that spate of crime was likely connected with his death. The station also reported that the 27-year-old staffer worked in voter expansion, helping people "find their polling places"; Rich's age and the relatively minor scope of his duties made him an unlikely linchpin in a conspiracy involving election fraud or any purported testimony against Hillary Clinton. The young staffer had only been employed with the DNC, where he was a Voter Expansion Data Director, since 2014, making his position and tenure an unlikely match-up with possession of crucial information for which he was supposedly killed.

While it's true police maintain an open investigation into Seth Rich's death, the claim connecting him to Hillary Clinton was the third of its sort to emerge from the same conspiracy-monger in mid-2016. All those rumors were variations on the long-circulating (and false) "body bags" claims that the Clintons habitually do away with once-loyal associates turned political liabilities. Prior to publishing the trio of Clinton-related fabrications, the same site and blogger held that President Obama had ordered the military to nuke the city of Charleston (which didn't happen), that Rear Admiral Rick Williams was fired because he revealed Obama's purchase of a mansion in Dubai (Williams was actually terminated for misconduct), and that Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama were enmeshed in a potentially conflict-starting dispute over the practices of the Monsanto agribusiness corporation.

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Jan 11, 2017 12:04:38   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Rosech wrote:
I find those who still can't accept their Hillary lost so it must be the fault of us, Putin and Lord knows who else. She shot herself in the foot and lost fair and square. But the dying on the vine as we write are doing all they can to send false stories, complaints, and casting all the "dark" nonsense they can because they are now completely irrelevant as "news" and "reporters" as they are not to be believed and hate the fact that Trump will deal with American citizens in an open manner and not cloaked in communism and stupidity. They just keep trying to convince the brainless that there is a connection with Putin which is completely ludicrous. They continue to cover up the traitors such as Soros, many in Congress, and definitely Obama and his crew of mostly muslims. They hate it now that we are more aware and informed than ever before and will not put up with their garbage and lies and the fact that most of MSM is owned by Soros and invested in by many muslims and have been for decades. They think if they repeat the same things 100 times, they will have credence. No way, Jose! Your day has come and gone and we the deplorables have taken over. AND AMAZINGLY NO PRESIDENT HAS TO SHOW HIS INCOME TAX RETURNS WE DID NOT SEE OBAMA'S NOR CLINTON'S DID WE. It started as a voluntary thing back in the time of Nixon and hence they can or cannot show their income tax returns. I have yet to see Hillary's or Obama's or anyone else's for some time. Have you shown yours to anyone or the country? Of course not, so that train left the station a long time ago. If and when Trump wants you to see his return, maybe he will do it but IT IS NOT A LAW NOR A REGULATION but considered a gesture, pure and simple. Time to stop believing MSM trash and really do your research and get informed because, frankly, you are danger to our freedom with your brainlessness and lack of knowing truths.
I find those who still can't accept their Hillary ... (show quote)




Rose,

I find it laughable that after year and years of lying and fake rumors about Obama and Hillary and everything Democrat, Now the GOP/right wing pretends to be outraged that any shade is cast on a fool of a con man that they voted for.. trump is as crooked as his father was.. If he was not hiding something he would be happy to show every bit of information with his name on it.. This entire election has been only about him in his eyes.

It is not if trump is a snake in the grass, but rather when and if it comes out to full discovery...

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Jan 11, 2017 13:55:55   #
vernon
 
Loki wrote:
Once more...; unsubstantiated, alleged, unproven. Where there's smoke there's fire? Maybe so, but it's coming out of your bong. Guess you didn't notice.


I don't know what a bong is but you can bet he is talking out of his ass.

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