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Dec 3, 2016 09:34:33   #
Rivers
 
lpnmajor wrote:
A President does not have the authority to offer State tax advantages, nor does he have the authority to offer any other tax advantages, which is something everyone SHOULD have known - making the "carrier deal" nothing more than a scripted reality show episode. This "deal" was drawn months before the elections, and had to be approved by the Gov. of Indiana and it's legislature. In other words, had Hillary won, the Gov. of Indiana would have taken credit for the deal, but since Pence is from Indiana, he talked them into allowing Trump to take the credit. Just another show.

BTW, I have no doubt that Indiana offered to let Pence take the credit for the deal, but Mr. Trump would not allow it - if it don't have his name on it, it ain't happenin.
A President does not have the authority to offer S... (show quote)


Oh boo hoo....suck it up buttercup.

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Dec 3, 2016 09:42:00   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Rivers wrote:
Oh boo hoo....suck it up buttercup.


There are newer medications that show great efficacy in treating delusions. I recommend you look into that - for your own sake.

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Dec 3, 2016 09:43:19   #
Rivers
 
lpnmajor wrote:
There are newer medications that show great efficacy in treating delusions. I recommend you look into that - for your own sake.


Yeah, I bet you take them by the dozens.

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Dec 3, 2016 15:49:07   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
vernon wrote:
well its good to hear from you and soros .keep up the good work of pushing soros lies.



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Dec 3, 2016 16:06:44   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
mwdegutis wrote:
You do not have a clue...

The $7 million has a five-year payback from not losing $1.4 million per year in income tax revenue.

Carrier Corp. said it would shutter its Indianapolis plant employing 1,400 workers and move its manufacturing to Mexico. The plant's workers would be laid off over three years starting in 2017 (Various).

Chris Jones, president of United Steelworkers Local 1999, represents 1,300 union workers at the Indianapolis plant whose wages average about $23 an hour (Indianapolis Business Journal.com). This means that the average salary for an hourly factory worker is approximately $47,800 and that the loss of Carrier’s hourly factory jobs alone would cost the state's economy about $62 million annually.

Carrier said in a statement that more than 1,000 jobs were saved, though that figure includes headquarters and engineering staff that were likely to stay in Indiana. Doing some quick math ( 1400 employees – 1300 hourly workers = 100 headquarters and engineering staff ) means more than 900 hourly jobs were saved out of 1300 factory jobs.

While it may yet be unclear what has happened to those 400 factory jobs, it remains to be seen that at least 900 jobs and $43 million HAVE NOT been lost. Adding the multiplier effect means that another almost $57 million output from other sectors WILL NOT be lost.

Time will tell what the impact of this deal will be and what will happen to the other less than 400 jobs but it’s unfair to speculate that those jobs will move to Mexico. But it’s safe to say that a MAJOR negative impact has been avoided through this deal.

As a final observation, I seem to remember in my research something about capital investment which could mean automation that could affect employment.
You do not have a clue... br br The $7 million ha... (show quote)


mwdegutis-quite clear to most of us except those who are still sore from that butt kicking by Trump. Trump will never do anything that will satisfy the likes of tdsrnest,coolbreeze, raylan,djrich,glaucon and a few others. It will take time for them to accept the fact that their idol, the most corrupt person ever to run for the presidency, got her plow cleaned by a successful businessman. lol Good Luck America !!!

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Dec 3, 2016 16:30:46   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
jimahrens wrote:
Stop wining you sissy boy






"Pigeons and chess," jim. "Pigeons and chess." GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! GOD BLESSED AMERICA!!! Now; "DRAIN THAT SWAMP!!!"

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Dec 3, 2016 17:02:12   #
Gener
 
mwdegutis wrote:
You do not have a clue...

The $7 million has a five-year payback from not losing $1.4 million per year in income tax revenue.

Carrier Corp. said it would shutter its Indianapolis plant employing 1,400 workers and move its manufacturing to Mexico. The plant's workers would be laid off over three years starting in 2017 (Various).

Chris Jones, president of United Steelworkers Local 1999, represents 1,300 union workers at the Indianapolis plant whose wages average about $23 an hour (Indianapolis Business Journal.com). This means that the average salary for an hourly factory worker is approximately $47,800 and that the loss of Carrier’s hourly factory jobs alone would cost the state's economy about $62 million annually.

Carrier said in a statement that more than 1,000 jobs were saved, though that figure includes headquarters and engineering staff that were likely to stay in Indiana. Doing some quick math ( 1400 employees – 1300 hourly workers = 100 headquarters and engineering staff ) means more than 900 hourly jobs were saved out of 1300 factory jobs.

While it may yet be unclear what has happened to those 400 factory jobs, it remains to be seen that at least 900 jobs and $43 million HAVE NOT been lost. Adding the multiplier effect means that another almost $57 million output from other sectors WILL NOT be lost.

Time will tell what the impact of this deal will be and what will happen to the other less than 400 jobs but it’s unfair to speculate that those jobs will move to Mexico. But it’s safe to say that a MAJOR negative impact has been avoided through this deal.

As a final observation, I seem to remember in my research something about capital investment which could mean automation that could affect employment.
You do not have a clue... br br The $7 million ha... (show quote)



He either does not have a clue, or he has some motives. The arguments these liberals put out here are ridiculous. In some cases though, I think that is their plan.

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Dec 3, 2016 17:05:20   #
Gener
 
Ricko wrote:
mwdegutis-quite clear to most of us except those who are still sore from that butt kicking by Trump. Trump will never do anything that will satisfy the likes of tdsrnest,coolbreeze, raylan,djrich,glaucon and a few others. It will take time for them to accept the fact that their idol, the most corrupt person ever to run for the presidency, got her plow cleaned by a successful businessman. lol Good Luck America !!!


tdsrnest, coolbreeze, raylan, and the others have shown a propensity for ignoring truth, turning their heads whenever they are shown the truth, ignoring it for a while, then come back later with the same lies. I don't think they even care about or for the truth.

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Dec 3, 2016 17:47:30   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
lpnmajor wrote:
A President does not have the authority to offer State tax advantages, nor does he have the authority to offer any other tax advantages, which is something everyone SHOULD have known - making the "carrier deal" nothing more than a scripted reality show episode. This "deal" was drawn months before the elections, and had to be approved by the Gov. of Indiana and it's legislature. In other words, had Hillary won, the Gov. of Indiana would have taken credit for the deal, but since Pence is from Indiana, he talked them into allowing Trump to take the credit. Just another show.

BTW, I have no doubt that Indiana offered to let Pence take the credit for the deal, but Mr. Trump would not allow it - if it don't have his name on it, it ain't happenin.
A President does not have the authority to offer S... (show quote)





What flipping bubble is everyone living in?
There is no deal, never was a deal. Morons arguing with morons! !!!
Trump on his campaign trail told America he would lower corporate taxes, he told America he would place a tax penalty on businesses that relocated outsideAmerica's borders, and shipped goods back into America at a rate of 35%. To encourage companies to build, grow, expand with lower corporate taxes, discourage wit penalties, last remove regulations . This is not complicated beyond these three things.

Trump speaking to the CEO was to communicate he was not all talk. "Hey, I'm really going to lower taxes, giving you more capital to operate, remove costly regulations, and yes I will inflict pain If you leave, then ship goods back here.....yes it will happen, will you stay here I'm good on my word""" paraphrased. .........

Pence, and Trump have given us this much information ( not more, not less) and the meDia and liberals have continued on an expected path of reading into, adding, even fabricating beyond what has been said or done. This is nuts!!!!!

As a result, they took Trump at his word ( not just campaign promises ) restructured and ad a result cut fewer jobs, and committed to expansion (we can assume, subject to tax reduction passing).

Trump has told us in the first two hundred days he would have a tax plan ready for congress.

Trump is only doing, what he told America he "would do".

Idiots, morons, and dummies

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Dec 3, 2016 17:51:59   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Gener wrote:
tdsrnest, coolbreeze, raylan, and the others have shown a propensity for ignoring truth, turning their heads whenever they are shown the truth, ignoring it for a while, then come back later with the same lies. I don't think they even care about or for the truth.




Exactly! !!!!
I have posted four (4) times evidence, proof, and the facts of "massive" voter fraud, when Tdsnest has stated " there is no voter fraud, where is the proof? "

And four (4) times has he left the discussion, gone, poof.

He is a liar, and dishonest to the core of being evil.

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Dec 3, 2016 18:26:33   #
moldyoldy
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Exactly! !!!!
I have posted four (4) times evidence, proof, and the facts of "massive" voter fraud, when Tdsnest has stated " there is no voter fraud, where is the proof? "

And four (4) times has he left the discussion, gone, poof.

He is a liar, and dishonest to the core of being evil.


So, where is that evidence that the FEC can not find ?

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Dec 3, 2016 18:29:24   #
Gener
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Exactly! !!!!
I have posted four (4) times evidence, proof, and the facts of "massive" voter fraud, when Tdsnest has stated " there is no voter fraud, where is the proof? "

And four (4) times has he left the discussion, gone, poof.

He is a liar, and dishonest to the core of being evil.



Yeap

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Dec 3, 2016 18:32:00   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
moldyoldy wrote:
So, where is that evidence that the FEC can not find ?


FEC?
What do you mean, evidence that the FEC cannot find? Makes no sense with what I wrote

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Dec 3, 2016 19:49:09   #
Homestead
 
tdsrnest wrote:
CARRIER DEAL

Cost to taxpayers $7 million
Jobs saved that were not leaving anyway 800
Carrier still moving 1300 jobs to Mexico

Long term deal now encourages large companies to begin to shake down state, local and Federal government when ever they want money. Republicans calling this a great deal and Trump has been elevated to move over Ronald Reagan Trump is headed for Rushmore.

Every Savvy CEO will now threaten to ship jobs to Mexico and demand a payment to stay. But Republicans love this agenda. Another hidden subsidy for the corporate elite.

Obama successful auto rescue that republican wanted to let the Auto industry go bankrupt due to the Bush recession saved well over a million Jobs by giving them a low interest loan with stock options that got paid back with interest ended up making money for the federal government. But the same people applauding the orange haired freak attacked Obama.
But the right wing freaks on OPP would never give Obama credit.

So I guess we are entering into the Trump presidency of PR stunts to pacify the right wing freaks on OPP. Nobody can see this guy scammed the American tax payers by spending $7 million and saved 800 jobs that were not going anywhere.

He did the same BS with the ford plant and you freaks love this guy. If Ford only knew he could have held out for $50 million. That says carrier is a lot smarter than Ford. Carrier knows this orange haired freak is a dumb SOB.

Great job Govenor Pence you're tax payers are footing the bill for a pathologist cal lier.
CARRIER DEAL br br Cost to taxpayers $7 million b... (show quote)


You have no credibility.

You know nothing.

Go away!

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Dec 3, 2016 20:02:37   #
fuzzybill
 
Dam you sound just like that silver backed ape Al Sharpy, no damn wonder the killer lost with libturds like you runnin your pie hole.

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