Big Bass

I'm glad the subject of prairie oysters didn't come up.

mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma

Ben Carsen as great as he is cannot perform the impossible.

Ricko Loc: Florida

Jack-exactly !! Trump merely reminded them of what would happen when he becomes president. As governor, however, Pence was able to offer Carrier State tax incentives. It is difficult for liberals to fathom that a president would do what he campaigned on. They are so accustomed to being lied to that the mere thought of delivering on promises, by a president elect, is strange to them. Good Luck America !!!

PeterS

Where are we whining and crying. I'm happy that you guys have come around to our belief in government control of business. I am not complaining at all...

As for reducing taxes and regulations to induce businesses to stay the effective tax rate for corporations is 12.6% with more corporations paying no taxes, as with Trump, than not. Trump said he is going to eliminate tax loop holes which means most corporations will see a tax increase not a decline. That leaves regulations and since the most obtrusive were aimed at the energy sector you won't see enough of a reduction to make a dollar difference to induce manufacturing corporations to stay. As for being an expert--I've got an MBA and have been in business for over 30 years. From experience I know the biggest hit every business faces is labor. That means I am experienced and nothing more. When you have a choice between paying $25 per hour plus benefits or $3 dollars per hour and no benefits which would you choose? You don't have to be an expert to understand that but simply have a bit of common sense and nothing more.

Gener

That's close. However, when corporations get tax breaks they invest that money and increase their competitive stance, and end up actually getting a larger profit and therefore pay more taxes even though not as high as percentage. Taxes are paid off of profits.

It goes without saying that it would be better for the business to pay $3 instead of $25, but there has always had to have been a balance between business and labor. If companies as a whole use slave labor, or at least minimum wage labor, the population as a whole cannot afford to buy the products that the business sells. If companies go overseas it makes the problem even worse. The population here will be out of work, and cannot buy any of the goods and services the companies produce. If the people here can't buy the products then they have to sell them in countries where the labor is cheaper, but at a lower price. Every pendulum swings both ways. And you can't have it both ways. If countries continue to globalize it will destroy the economic infrastructure of this country. Eventually everything, just like water, seeks its own level. But what will that level be? The level here, or that of a foreign country?

In this country the pendulum swings in such a way that sometimes it goes too far labor's way, and sometimes too far companies way. But the pendulum always comes back, sooner or later to the middle. The role of the government should not be to heavy handedly tax the corporations, but insure their profits by encouraging business, then in the long run, they will be paying more taxes even if the rate is lower.

Globalization is a thought designed by the New World Order, and the Elite bankers. Their goal is not to bring other countries up to our standards, but to crush us. And that is what is happening. Our economy will not be feasible much longer. It will crash, and when it does there will be chaos. This is not speculation, this is exactly what is intended.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I'll never figure out why liberals won't use common sense. You guys are so easily lead by BS propaganda statistics. If the effective tax rate was as low as you say and many corporations paying no taxes why do corporations want to leave? The government and better business bureau says statistically labor costs are around 20% so you are making stuff up again. Regulations are the biggest killer. The health care law only is making it much worse. There are other reasons for businesses to stay in the states. A mostly educated workforce, comparatively speaking. A somewhat slow but stable economy. A safe country to work in as long as your business isn't in liberal controlled cities. I don't believe for a second that you had a business with substantial payroll or Federal, State and compliance standards. One last thing, you know damn good and well I am not for government control of business. You say stupid shit like that because one, to a liberal you think your funny. To the rest of us it just makes you an asshole.

CounterRevolutionary

Actually, Ford was not bailed out by the Treasury. The workers wear "Ford" T-shirts bragging they took no government bailout. Ford employs some 85,000 workers, but now they are moving bigtime to Mexico. Obama pushed them out through regulations, the Department of Energy and EPA mandating more electric cars with no buyer market, and higher corporate taxes.

The other auto manufacturers were bailed out. The union pension funds were bailed out with their Cadillac healthcare benefits under Obamacare.

CounterRevolutionary

Peter, the vast majority of Fortune 500 corporations and the additional 28 million other corporations and enterprises in America, pay their full share of federal and state taxes. well above 40% of their profits, the highest taxes in the world. Stop listening to your labor union hype and lies and do your homework. You are getting tripped up with corporate taxes that average their profits and losses over many years, between 3 to 20 years for the Fortune 500, using Value Based Accounting, not Cost Based Accounting.

All you need to do is go to the Department of Labor for statistics on business taxes. Better yet, volunteer this tax season as a clerk at the IRS and see for yourself the billions of dollars raked in from corporations.

I do not believe for a minute that you own a business nor have an MBA. Everyone in business knows that their greatest expense is a high turnover of employees and retraining and retraining, and retraining the workforce. Real managers regard their employees as precious customers and pamper them. It is the Obama Labor Board that rewards employers for hiring illegal aliens, actually arresting CEOs for "racial profiling" when they ask for ID and proof of work permits.

The biggest enemy for a worker is Inflation that incessantly devalues the currency, stealing his time and labor. If you want social justice, shut down that damnable Federal Reserve Bank's inflation machine and enforce our immigration laws.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Him volunteer? Are you kidding? Liberals don't volunteer. There idea of good works is taking my money and giving it to someone they think needs it more than me. Your response was so factual and well written I may plagiarize it.