Ricko Loc: Florida

Gener-do not believe anyone is discounting the National Debt and its growth. However, what is important is the economy and how it relates to the debt. A growing debt and slowing economy obviously would spell disaster at some point. However, to grow the debt some in order to revive the economy, with a workable plan to keep it thriving, is a smart move. With a thriving economy we can start paying down the debt but if our economy remains weak, we will have to pay the piper sooner or later. I believe Trump can get the job done and we need to at least give him a chance to sell his proposals to congress. PS. The latest BLS unemployment numbers are pure fantasy and more representative of the BLS without the "L". Good Luck America !!!~

bggamers Loc: georgia

I think they dont want to see the reality because they can do nothing about it AND it is scary as for me I'm trying to prepare if the goverment would leave MY S/S ALONE .one year they say I can make as much as I want and then they penalize me by holding my check and tell me that its next year Got a letter in sept I will not get another check till march of 2017 hell I'v only recieved 3 1/2 checks this year who can retire by the time I get the first check of next year I'll be 66 since jan and I am already expecting they will find another reason to hold it again. Since they keep holding my checks I'v had to keep working full time to pay bills. When I spoke to them they said you need to quit working to get your benifits and now it will take me ten years to be able to get my FULL benifits who can afford to retire.

Randy131 Loc: Florida

I love sarcasm when it is done right, and you're good at it. I completely agree with you, and I know that the time is coming when everyone will pay the price for thinking deficits and the national debt are meaningless, for it will destroy the US dollar, and when it does, so goes the US economy, and so will go the life that the American people thought they had acquired forever, and what will take it's place is going to be much uglier than people, who understand all this, think it will be. You're right, and it's coming, maybe Donald Trump's policies will delay it through his Presidency, a short respite of 4 to 8 years, but eventually it will destroy us all.

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

Then maybe we should believe Trump when said this about the economy!

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Unemployment is measured by counting those who report themselves to be actively seeking work. These reports are counted from workers claiming unemployment benefits. Once the benefits run out (after 6 months), the worker is no longer reporting as actively seeking work (not collecting benefits) and is therefore no longer participating in the workforce. Hence they drop off the unemployment rolls and are no longer counted as unemployed. This has the effect of lowering the percentage of unemployed and raising the percentage of non-participants.

We can extrapolate from this that the workforce participation rate is more a measure of the long-term unemployed and the unemployment rate is a measure of those unemployed for less than 6 months. Confused yet? You're supposed to be.

Gener

Well, a thriving economy sure would help, and I agree with what you are saying here in principle, but I don't think many people really have the concept of 20 trillion dollars - and counting. I do not believe any President or Congress can put a stop to it, they can slow it down for sure, but they cannot stop it. And especially they cannot stop it when there are many in Congress who do not want it stopped - who work for the NWO and are intent on bringing the economy down so that people will have no choice but to accept the NWO, that is to say, global government. Trump may be able to slow it down, but I doubt he can stop it. $20,000,000,000,000. And there are how many wage earners and businesses in this country? And the debt goes up significantly every day? How do you stop that? It is like a train careening out of control. If you do stop it, there is at least a temporary, and not too temporary readjustment period where millions get seriously hurt.

Gener

Yeah, I am on social security too, and I would get seriously burned if I tried to make extra money. Unless I made a LOT of money I would end up with less. I don't expect social security to continue too much longer. They have borrowed from the social security pot for so long and have not paid it back and have no intention of paying it back. It will not last forever. And if there is a serious economic crash, well, there will be millions of senior citizens on the street with nowhere to go. It would be an economic disaster. And a moral disaster and a life support disaster for millions.

bggamers Loc: georgia

I hate to agree but I have to. Clinton kept saying that social security was a gift from the goverment and they didnt have to pay it.Personally I think a whole lot of senior went out and voted this time because they kept seeing something in these two that reminded them of the rise of hitler and they sure as heck earned that check its not the goverments money even though they keep the interest it earns.

Gener

Yeah, we paid into that, and our employers did, so technically it is our money, although some judges have argued otherwise. As far as the rise of Hitler, a lot of people saw that especially in Trump, but Clinton was undoubtedly the worst of the two evils, and she would have been another Stalin. People in this country have lost their senses, they have been lied to over and over again. Indeed it was Hitler and the Nazi party that said, tell a lie over and over and over again and eventually people will believe it. Trump is a dark horse, we don't know what he will really do, with Clinton there is no question. But tyranny is coming no matter what. And while the liberals here argue about whether democrats or republicans do better with the economy, they completely miss the real issue, that a New World Order is coming, and it is tyranny, and no President can stop it. They just cannot do it. But Clinton would welcome it as she (as well as the Bushes, Obama, and many others) openly embrace and belong to organizations that promote this NWO. They do not have the interests of the American people at heart. Republican or Democrat is meaningless. They both are on the same side, and their differences are cosmetic, meant to make the public think they have a choice. They do not. The liberals here are completely ignorant of the real issues and have no clue as to what is really happening.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

I don't think you can end up with less. If you are full retirement age there is no cap as to how much you can earn with no penalty. If you have not yet reached full retirement age I believe you pay back $1 for every $2 of earned income that does not include your social security check. You can go online to socialsecurity.gov and check it out yourself.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

In a nut shell you are correct.