The people who wrote the above posts are exaggerating shamefully. I guess this is “pile on” California week.

I admit that things have changed from the beautiful, clean State that we had when I first moved here, but that has come mainly from the huge influx of coloured, and brown races that has more than tripled our population since those early times. These races have been shown to harbor a multitude of very low intelligence level people. The large contingent of lower class blacks do not take care of their neighborhoods, in fact they trash them, and whenever they move into an area it shortly becomes a slum. The same can be said for the small contingent of lower class Mexicans. And the upper class of both these people are very embarrassed and angry about that, but can’t do much to mitigate it. Unfortunately their “Political Leaders” make things worse while fattening off the problems they cause.

I’ve NEVER seen public nudity in S. F.. For one thing the climate is to cool summer and winter to allow it.

As for Bums sleeping in the doorways. That is happening in every big city in the country, and there is no more of that here than in your towns. I don’t condone it, but in our country’s wonderfully forward political environment it is happening. Again this seems to be more related to overpopulation, and the large number of criminal and semi-insane cases thrown out on the streets, much probably caused by the poisoning in our food and water supply that the lower classes are fed, and the states “Leaders” refusing to allot money for their incarceration. (In most states they are turning these people onto the streets for the same reasons.)

Fecal matter on the streets? Very rare. No more than in your town I’ll bet.

I would appreciate a little more honesty on this forum and less chest beating nonsense.

Yeah, I know, it is more fun to pile on. (;-)

I think Paul Pisces is putting you on. I admit that I don’t live in an area that is known for homosexuals, but I can’t believe that if one, male or female(??) were to walk to the store nude, they would quickly be swept up by the cops.

S.F. has always been a tourist town, and the local police know that it would keep tourists away to have the town really develop as some of you seem to think it has.

Yes there are areas where homosexuals live and you can see both sexes walking the sidewalk holding hands. It has become more common in the last 20 years. ( I wonder if a lot of this is the result of chemicals that are found in many of the “foods” and drugs that are being used today.) But if you have a similar size population town I’m sure that you have those areas too. And I understand that there is some near nudity during certain of the homo parades, reported by some yellow newspapers. But again I personally have never seen such.

I will admit that I’m retired and live in a beautiful rustic hunting, fishing, hiking mountain area 100 miles from S.F. and only get down there now when the wife wants to go shopping, or the relatives want to see the town and get a good meal.

As far as I'm concerned San Fransisco is still one of the best cities in the world.

Why would that be surprising? After all, until 2013 San Francisco allowed public nudity all the time and in all places including restaurants and in doctors waiting rooms. the only requirement was that you bring a towel to sit on so you don't spread disease. Now there are only special times, like bicycle races, motorcycle races for dykes on bikes, all "gay pride" events, and as I understand it all "gay bars". The change came about, as Paul has stated because tourists found public nudity unacceptable. There is no reason for most normal people to desire to visit the modern Sodom.