Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Smoke a joint, be a criminal. Taken from the latest version of form 4473:

"The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside."

Form 4473 is the form filled out when begging for permission to own a firearm.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/11/30/the-cannabis-exception-to-the-second-ame

Remember, those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who didn't.

Rivers

Good law.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Here's another little tidbit:

"Falsely denying marijuana use on Form 4473 can get you up to five years."

How could they possibly know?

Rivers

Good law.

boatbob2

Passing the law,to allow marijuana use,is/was sheer stupidity,just ask the police in Denver,,,,

Rivers

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Right or wrong, prohibition exists. The trend seems to be, every election cycle, a few more States move closer to nullifying federal prohibition and reducing the criminal element within their borders. The point of this posting is to highlight the disconnect between the States and the Federal government in terms of legislation and enforcement. I would further contend that the Federal government has no mandate to regulate, recommend or otherwise ban the use or possession of anything, be it a drug, a gun or a bag of M&M's.

Michaeljames Loc: S.D.

I'm with you Larry!

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Just ask all the state's surrounding colorado. The use of marijuana continues to be against Federal law and if anyone continues to believe that Obama isn't a lawless son of a bitch remember he took a vow to enforce our laws. But having been a serious doper he, of course, doesn't see any harm. And Obama just let about 12000 dopers and drug dealers out of prison.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Proof Rivers, boatbob and padremike know nothing about the PROVEN medical benefits of marijuana that big pharma cannot patent to profit billions from, let alone the harmless effects of marijuana use vs alcohol and tobacco use proven health hazards not only to the user but to others as well (driving, domestic violence, secondhand smoke, etc). Marijuana has been falsely kept illegal at the federal level fro purely political and economic reasons. As you guys are on to the other lies and bullshit put out by the monkeys of the government by their corporate organ ginders, I figured y'all to be smarter than to let them brainwash you with the propaganda about marijuana. But it's OK to let doctors prescribe (legal) pharmaceutical drugs that are addicting as hell and destructive, yet make big pharma billions. I know from first hand experience what hydrocodone can do. I watched it destroy my stepmother, ALL with doctor approval!

Rivers

Bullshit! It is a gateway drug and doing more damage to the user, as well as society than you know. Medical marijuana is fine, but one should have to get a prescription like you do for any drug. More stats are coming out all the time about the real damage it does, and more will be coming out over the years.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

There was once a time in our nation when marijuana, opium and cocaine, etc were legal and unregulated. It became obvious to the people that these drugs were not good for society and laws passed to prohibit them. Once again the shit for brains, people like you and Obama, who like your illegal drugs so much you want to share them with kids and adults and think they're good for us. Smoking tobacco is a mortal sin to you progressives but smoking dope is a virtue. And you say you're too intelligent to be brainwashed while I believe you've smoked and used so much dope your judgment is screwed up.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

If you recall when Washington State went recreational and a few others went medical, Holder was asked about the Federal bill illegal status?..He replied he was not going to enforce it and was leaving the states to handle the decision of voters...

Many argued he set precedence in taking that position and in effect abrogating the Federal law...

Further Ron Paul still has a standing bill before Congress to remove the Federal law as it niw cinflictsvwith the stat laws and causes undue discriminstion of all since in one state you can smoke pot and in another you can be jailed, fined or given time ...

There is inequity of the law and they do need to address it...

Pot is now going through a basic prohibition era and will evolve soon enough..The states that allow it and tax it are doing well.. More states are approving because they see that added revenue as well..


https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.mic.com/articles/amp/16255/ron-paul-legalize-marijuana-bill-8-reasons-why-it-makes-sense...


The facts cited in the article pose violation of due process of law..To presume someone should not own because they are more dangerous is assumption, not fact or proven...

One could argue if we drink and become more bold or aggressive because we do that we are also likely more prone to be dangerous and therefore should not own...

No one should be behind the wheel of a car drinking or smoking and I strongly support that but to just group people together under an assumptive theory not proven against that person applying is to violate his privacy and second amendment.... jmho here..But I want laws in place that protect us from discrimination and violation of our right to due process, not laws where assumption dictates the decision...
Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt...or better yet~~ Innocent, until proven guilty...Last I knew that is still the standard ... .

buffalo Loc: Texas

They can and do get a doctors prescription where it is legal. Tell your bullshit know nothing about marijuana other than what you have been brainwashed with to the mother of a 3 month old that has seizures that last 2-4 hours and at age 3 was having 300 seizures a week and the doctors had her on seven drugs -- some of them heavy-duty, addictive ones such as barbiturates and benzodiazepines, that did NOT work. Then they heard about a strain of marijuana high in CBD. IT STOPPED HER SEIZURES. You want to deny that life saver to children and adults.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/index.html

As to a gateway drug, THAT is BULLSHIT! I know people that have been using marijuana for 40 years. They are have jobs, raised families and are productive citizens.

Rivers

"The states that allow it and tax it are doing well"??????? Yeah, tax dollars okay. Do you know anyone who lives in CO and has to put up with the spaced out people and the awful smell it produces? I do, know several friends who live there and a couple are contemplating moving out of state because of it! Oh, and, the increased homeless? They're just starting to collect DUI data, and it is increasing. I see nothing good coming from legalizing it.