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Oct 18, 2016 10:30:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
This won't be popular with many here. If Trump loses and calls for a revolution he can forget me. Yes the countries corrupt and Hillary should be ineligible to be President. Yes, I am very reluctantly voting for Trump. I can see a scenario where every American should want to take their country back and put in the government as written in the Constitution. However; I would never consider harming another American for or on the advice of Trump.
Pennylynn wrote:
Peter,

I think we have a misunderstanding.

First, I think the electoral college is antiquated and needs to be eliminated in favor of one person one vote.
Second, I think that Mr. Trump WILL win the popular vote but will not get the votes of the electoral college.
A recount will only be effective in the "must have" states but even with that, there is no guarantee it will change the number of electoral college votes.

In the end, if Killary is elected I think there will be many unhappy people and the question then is, will Mr. Trump put on a happy face and congratulate her... which will be business as usual, or will he indicate that the vote was rigged and by doing so, change the entire face of America. The US is divided already, it would not take much to have another Civil War. I do not know which way this would go. I think that the democrats have us out-gunned....but they are cowards.... They will rely on the blacks of the inner city to continue their war on police and whites... will that be enough of an army for them to win such a conflict. I don't think so. Conservatives are tightly knit, regardless of color, have commonalities and will band together. We also have commonsense which is much more useful than book education... Liberals will also depend on the military, in the form of Martial Law... and that will not work, the enlisted ranks are mostly made up of conservatives who will refuse unjust orders... they will not open fire on fellow Americans.

So, in the end... it hinges on Mr. Trump.... will he support Killary or will he set the nation on fire.... could go either way.
Peter, br br I think we have a misunderstanding.... (show quote)

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Oct 18, 2016 10:38:10   #
Anigav6969
 
pafret wrote:
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So, in the end... it hinges on Mr. Trump.... will he support Killary or will he set the nation on fire.... could go either way. "

I don't think Trump will do either of these things, he can never support Hillary but I believe he is a Patriot and will not deliberately foment civil war. Also the nucleus of activists required to start such action has been emasculated by the Alphabet Agencies wars against the various armed groups. The average no information voter will not even be aware of who won the election, they will just complain that their favorite TV show was cut off by that Political stuff.
" br So, in the end... it hinges on Mr. Trump... (show quote)


I think Trump will make himself a martyr, take his 35% and become a media mogul....lots of money to be made

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Oct 18, 2016 10:41:48   #
Anigav6969
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Polls only reflect the opinions of those who are polled. History repeats... unless there is some massive change in our citizens.... we can pretty much tell how many will turn out to vote. Killary thinks she will take the female vote.... and Trump will take the deplorable and irredeemables... those without a PHD.... Keep in mind, only 34 percent of Americans have a college degree and of that on 28 percent of women have college degrees... and I am not talking about PHDs, just your run of the mill pay your fee get a degree bachelor degree. While only 1.68 percent of Americans over the age of 25 have a PhD. Which means, some women are deplorable and irredeemable. Killary also thinks she has cornered the market on milennials... but 26 percent of these people say they will vote for Johnson, Stein or write in Sanders. Killary thinks that blacks will vote for her. Here is the fly in the ointment, only 12.2 percent of all blacks have registered to vote and historically only 30 percent of those registered will vote. African Americans now make up 12.3% of voters and 90% of them have been voting for Democrats since the 1960s-- old habits are hard to break. Hispanics, thanks to obama's open invitation, there are 27.3 million eligible voters.... of that about 11 percent have registered to vote. 68 percent of those registered say they will most likely vote for Killary, Johnson, or Stein.... As for muslims, they are not big players this time around... next election they will move to the top of concerns.... So, taking this all in consideration, if people turn out to vote, Trump will win the popular vote.

Why will he loose the election.... population centers and how the electoral college is comprised.... Notice, I have not mentioned the voter fraud theory...


Voter Registration Statistics Data
Total number of Americans eligible to vote 218,959,000--all races and genders; male, female, and none of the above
Total number of Americans registered to vote 146,311,000

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hispanics-register-to-vote-in-record-numbers-in-key-states-1468269306
http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics
http://www.statisticbrain.com/voting-statistics/
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72
https://www.reference.com/education/percentage-americans-phd-2508f1120884e2a3

This is only my opinion based on history and current statistics. I may be very wrong and either everyone turns out to vote or many will stay at home, especially those who say they are democrats because all the polls show Killary winning by a landslide... And perhaps the Republicans will stay at home (not likely) because the polls show there is a snow balls chance in Hati that Mr Trump will win.
Polls only reflect the opinions of those who are p... (show quote)


Interesting....but All polls consistently show that he goes from 35 to 45% ....never less...never more....so, I'll assume this will continue....I think he'll lose both the popular and electoral count....we'll see.....

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Oct 18, 2016 10:42:22   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Perhaps a ridiculously overpaid speech giver if he can some how promise the attendees some sort of quid-pro-quo.
Anigav6969 wrote:
I think Trump will make himself a martyr, take his 35% and become a media mogul....lots of money to be made

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Oct 18, 2016 10:45:21   #
Anigav6969
 
JFlorio wrote:
This won't be popular with many here. If Trump loses and calls for a revolution he can forget me. Yes the countries corrupt and Hillary should be ineligible to be President. Yes, I am very reluctantly voting for Trump. I can see a scenario where every American should want to take their country back and put in the government as written in the Constitution. However; I would never consider harming another American for or on the advice of Trump.


I hope and also think you're right J......I think Trump will continue his rant of "rigged system" , rip apart Hillary, basically , give his loyal followers red meat.....this will ensure a loyal following for him Ailes and Breitbart....just a theory

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Oct 18, 2016 10:46:04   #
Anigav6969
 
JFlorio wrote:
Perhaps a ridiculously overpaid speech giver if he can some how promise the attendees some sort of quid-pro-quo.


Lol....understood

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Oct 18, 2016 11:01:34   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I will defend myself..... if civil war happens and the limp writs enlist the inner city dwellers to kill all police and whites.. I will defend myself and my family.... It then is not a question of if it is an American trying to kill me .... it will be some JA who has assumed they have a right to take my family.. which includes friend's lives. As the saying goes... they had better give their soul to G*d!

So, since you will not participate.... and because I have grown fond of you.... where will your funeral be held? I would like you to put me on the invitation list even though I now consider you among the Liberals.... but, no one is perfect!

JFlorio wrote:
This won't be popular with many here. If Trump loses and calls for a revolution he can forget me. Yes the countries corrupt and Hillary should be ineligible to be President. Yes, I am very reluctantly voting for Trump. I can see a scenario where every American should want to take their country back and put in the government as written in the Constitution. However; I would never consider harming another American for or on the advice of Trump.

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Oct 18, 2016 11:02:04   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
JFlorio wrote:
We don't need anothe Gore. If Trump gets beat, especially soundly he should congratulate Hillary and try to bring the country together. Do you believe Hillary would do the same?



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Oct 18, 2016 11:06:53   #
Anigav6969
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I will defend myself..... if civil war happens and the limp writs enlist the inner city dwellers to kill all police and whites.. I will defend myself and my family.... It then is not a question of if it is an American trying to kill me .... it will be some JA who has assumed they have a right to take my family.. which includes friend's lives. As the saying goes... they had better give their soul to G*d!

So, since you will not participate.... and because I have grown fond of you.... where will your funeral be held? I would like you to put me on the invitation list even though I now consider you among the Liberals.... but, no one is perfect!
I will defend myself..... if civil war happens and... (show quote)


This is an insane post...WTF are you talking about ?

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Oct 18, 2016 11:24:51   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Very true. I think the way you do, that is Mr. Trump (if he looses, and vvotes have not been counted yet) will merely tweet out a congratulations to her. I don't think he is of the nature to encourage civil war.... but, that does not mean those who voted for him wwill not be angry enough, or try, to over through what is a corrupt system and government.


There will be plenty of anger but other than domestic terrorism from small groups of armed individuals there will be no reaction. A more likely scenario is that Hillary will open our borders, pack the Supreme Court with Communists, she will continue to sell our country for her profit until the economy collapses due to the interlocked banking system which will create world wide recession. Our government will be rendered ineffective due to lack of assets or the necessary acceptable trade media and small nation states, which will form around a 'big man' will come into being. About twenty years should be enough to reach these goals.

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Oct 18, 2016 11:29:51   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
It seems some people feel he shouldn't .....I Never thought this would be an issue....are others on board of putting Country second ?


You mean like Clinton will do, put the country second?

Fact is Clinton is the one who would try to blow the whistle somehow, if she actually lost. Trump will just walk away and continue to milk the system which is what any business man or woman would do. Lol!!

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Oct 18, 2016 11:31:57   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Sorry Vagina, I was responding to another individual's post about if civil war breaks out over this election. They stated that they could not drawn down on another American.... I said if my family was attacked... I would not hesitate to send that person on to their maker and I would not stop to ask for their citizenship.

Anigav6969 wrote:
This is an insane post...WTF are you talking about ?

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Oct 18, 2016 11:33:35   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
You have the time line just about spot on! But, within a year we will be well on our way!

pafret wrote:
There will be plenty of anger but other than domestic terrorism from small groups of armed individuals there will be no reaction. A more likely scenario is that Hillary will open our borders, pack the Supreme Court with Communists, she will continue to sell our country for her profit until the economy collapses due to the interlocked banking system which will create world wide recession. Our government will be rendered ineffective due to lack of assets or the necessary acceptable trade media and small nation states, which will form around a 'big man' will come into being. About twenty years should be enough to reach these goals.
There will be plenty of anger but other than domes... (show quote)

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Oct 18, 2016 11:40:08   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
JFlorio wrote:
This won't be popular with many here. If Trump loses and calls for a revolution he can forget me. Yes the countries corrupt and Hillary should be ineligible to be President. Yes, I am very reluctantly voting for Trump. I can see a scenario where every American should want to take their country back and put in the government as written in the Constitution. However; I would never consider harming another American for or on the advice of Trump.


Trump is not going to call for a revolution. No one will support a losing candidate's attempt to openly subvert the political process. After the country has collapsed economically, to the point where all organization has broken down including the military the conditions will be ripe for revolution. Most likely it wont happen even then. There will be local warlords formed out of gangs who know they can extort whatever they want by force. This will be our government, fiefdoms, just like most of history.

It takes political leaders to foment war, whether foreign or domestic. Every agency of the government has been stockpiling huge amounts of ammunition and weapons. The government is the single biggest employer in the country. What chance do yopu think an insurrection will have?
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Oct 18, 2016 11:43:55   #
Anigav6969
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You mean like Clinton will do, put the country second?

Fact is Clinton is the one who would try to blow the whistle somehow, if she actually lost. Trump will just walk away and continue to milk the system which is what any business man or woman would do. Lol!!


I think you're probably right about " milking the system" ....but Trump conceding is completely unknown....it's difficult to predict what he will do....he just may not concede...maybe through a tweet

As for Hillary, yes, she would and should concede if she lost

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