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Wars and Rumors of Wars: “Obama Threatens Putin with Nuclear War”
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Oct 16, 2016 10:54:56   #
vernon
 
jimahrens wrote:
I don't think our Military will follow that order. It would be an order made by a crazy person. The world sees it why not Americans. Congress needs to act now to take his power away.



I don't think obama has the balls to do anything but draw lines in the sand.but this talk is just to scare the people into voting for the lying slut. Doesen't this sound like the dems know they are about to lose the election.Are they willing to destroy the civilized world just to keep control of the government?this sounds like desperate people trying to save their communist butts.

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Oct 16, 2016 10:56:19   #
vernon
 
Kevyn wrote:
You must be a Russian propagandist, this isn't a threat by Biden to launch a nuclear attack, it is a clear announcement that the US will retaliate for the Russians cyber attacks. We will respond in kind, perhaps grounding their aircraft for a few days or mucking up their banking system. How do you thing Putin would fare if a bunch of his oligarchs had their money disappear? Putin is going to get a swift kick in the pants, and there are countless ways the US can do it without resorting to atomic bombs.
You must be a Russian propagandist, this isn't a t... (show quote)



read the article!

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Oct 16, 2016 10:56:58   #
Mollie
 
Proof, is there any proof that the Russians hacked into Shrillarys emails? I have not heard one news station say the FBI has any positive proof Russia is responsible. If Berry does want to go forward with such an insane idea, he should be removed from office by our military immediately.

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Oct 16, 2016 10:58:48   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Kevyn wrote:
You must be a Russian propagandist, this isn't a threat by Biden to launch a nuclear attack, it is a clear announcement that the US will retaliate for the Russians cyber attacks. We will respond in kind, perhaps grounding their aircraft for a few days or mucking up their banking system. How do you thing Putin would fare if a bunch of his oligarchs had their money disappear? Putin is going to get a swift kick in the pants, and there are countless ways the US can do it without resorting to atomic bombs.
You must be a Russian propagandist, this isn't a t... (show quote)



You didn't read my opening sentences. This article is quoted and I was questioning the sources, Is this propaganda, a spoof or is there any truth. Instead of responding to that inquiry you attack me as though these were my writings. Stop tilting at windmills and answer my question.

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Oct 16, 2016 11:02:49   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
pafret, You got it all wrong. It was Putin's buddy that threatened nuclear war.


Not my writing salt. I'm trying to find out if there is any fact in the message. It could be fake alarmist
BS, someone's disinformation.
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Oct 16, 2016 11:06:32   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Mollie wrote:
Proof, is there any proof that the Russians hacked into Shrillarys emails? I have not heard one news station say the FBI has any positive proof Russia is responsible. If Berry does want to go forward with such an insane idea, he should be removed from office by our military immediately.



I haven't heard anything but claims that Putin was responsible for the hacks. Julian Assange identified the DNC staffer who was shot and killed, (a murder, not a robbery gone bad), as his source.

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Oct 16, 2016 11:07:05   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
payne1000 wrote:
The residents of Abbottabad say the old man the seals murdered was not Bin Laden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkqTH91PxJM

Bin Laden died in 2001.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead.html


I have read similar and must admit given the secrecy of it all and throwing the body into the ocean, etc it does cast doubt, especially with BO at the helm, payne..

Also aware of Ladens'need for treatment which may have been difficult since he had to stay on the run etc.

Not discrediting you as it may have been just what you posted....I only question the role of our now dead seals, by mistake of course...All very suspect!!

Thank You for post..

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Oct 16, 2016 11:09:49   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
pafret wrote:
I haven't heard anything but claims that Putin was responsible for the hacks. Julian Assange identified the DNC staffer who was shot and killed, (a murder, not a robbery gone bad), as his source.


Speaks volumes, does it not, all these untimely deaths of many that are about to be interviewed or testify .,
All just coincidential!! YEAAAAAA, RIiiiggghttt..

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Oct 16, 2016 11:23:12   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
saltwind 78 wrote:


hprinze, Are you a former KGB thug like Putin?


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re you actually as ignorant and ill informed as your posts here indicate?

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Oct 16, 2016 11:28:43   #
payne1000
 
lindajoy wrote:
I have read similar and must admit given the secrecy of it all and throwing the body into the ocean, etc it does cast doubt, especially with BO at the helm, payne..

Also aware of Ladens'need for treatment which may have been difficult since he had to stay on the run etc.

Not discrediting you as it may have been just what you posted....I only question the role of our now dead seals, by mistake of course...All very suspect!!

Thank You for post..


Could this group have faked Bin Laden's murder?
Surely not . . . I'll bet all of them attend church regularly.



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Oct 16, 2016 12:59:23   #
mcmlx
 
payne1000 wrote:
The residents of Abbottabad say the old man the seals murdered was not Bin Laden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkqTH91PxJM

Bin Laden died in 2001.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead.html



Of course it wasn’t Bin Laden.
Why did the seals throw the body overboard?
Because Bin Laden had been dead for a long time.

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Oct 16, 2016 13:12:06   #
payne1000
 
mcmlx wrote:
Of course it wasn’t Bin Laden.
Why did the seals throw the body overboard?
Because Bin Laden had been dead for a long time.


Like that "dead skunk in the middle of the road . . . stinkin' to high heaven."

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Oct 16, 2016 13:29:10   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
lindajoy wrote:
I have read similar and must admit given the secrecy of it all and throwing the body into the ocean, etc it does cast doubt, especially with BO at the helm, payne..

Also aware of Ladens'need for treatment which may have been difficult since he had to stay on the run etc.

Not discrediting you as it may have been just what you posted....I only question the role of our now dead seals, by mistake of course...All very suspect!!

Thank You for post..


Linda the SEAL's do not lie especially for Obama. They are NOT in his corner...period. The SEAL team that took out Bin Laden was accurate and reported an accurate debriefing of what took place. If Obama or Hillary had anything to do with leaking intel that helped have the SEAL team shot down later, it would have been due to their gathering and had evidence of some very high level criminal conduct by Obama and Gang...all of which they attempted to turn over to Lindsey Graham and he refused to take it! He said in response to their wanting to hand him over a few file boxes of information, through a third party, that due to them not being his "constitutes" that he was not going to be involved! Imagine THAT!

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Oct 16, 2016 13:33:15   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
mcmlx wrote:
Of course it wasn’t Bin Laden.
Why did the seals throw the body overboard?
Because Bin Laden had been dead for a long time.


The US Navy SEAL Team had ZERO to do with disposal of Bin Laden's body. That was an order directed to the US Navy from President Obama. Let me assure you the SEAL Teams do NOT like Obama...in fact they more or less think he is a punk and a coward and a traitor.

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Oct 16, 2016 14:06:56   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
pafret wrote:
These are some very serious allegations. Anyone know who this author is or the source group Russia-Insider is?

Wars and Rumors of Wars: “Obama Threatens Putin with Nuclear War”
Posted: 15 Oct 2016 07:35 PM PDT

“Obama Threatens Putin with Nuclear War”
by Eric Zuesse

“It’ll be at a time of our choosing,” says U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, on NBC’’s “Meet the Press,” to be aired on Sunday, October 16th. Interviewer Chuck Todd had asked him, “Why would he [Obama] send a message out to Putin?” Biden pursed his lips, paused, and said, with a grim look on his face, “We sent him the message.” Of course that didn’t answer Todd’s question, which was “Why?" Biden and Todd both remained silent for another tense moment. Then, Biden picked up again: “We have the capacity to do it, and, uh,” and Todd interrupted him there with “He’ll know it?” Biden replied: “He’ll know it, and it’ll be at a time of our choosing, and under circumstances that have the greatest impact. Uh, the capacity to do, to fundamentally alter the election, is not what people think; and, uh, I tell you what: to the extent that they do [‘do’ presumably meaning: fundamentally alter the election], we will be proportionate in what we do. And, uh,” Todd again interrupted his interviewee, and said, “So, a message is going to be sent. Will the public know?” Biden replied, “Hope not.”

Of course, that “Hope not” could mean many things. It might mean: A blitz nuclear attack in line with our government’s belief that we now enjoy Nuclear Primacy (an idea that was first published by the Council on Foreign Relations in 2006, and which has never yet been renounced by the U.S. government, during the decade since). That would be very much a public response, which Biden would “hope not” to be ’necessary'. In other words: Biden might have meant, there: "I hope it won’t have to be that.” But, clearly, Biden isn’t wanting the public to understand anything, other than that President Obama has threatened President Putin, with something, and that it will be “proportionate,” and the excuse for it will be — if it will happen — that Putin had done something which Obama thinks caused Hillary Clinton to lose the election to Donald Trump.

Standing behind what Biden is saying there, is the belief that Putin does have in his possession some option that might “fundamentally alter the election.” This is clearly a threat that’s meant to deter Putin from doing something that Putin hasn’t yet done. Obama is telling Putin that either the winner will be the person he wants to be his successor, or else — or else what?

In other words: what Biden is saying, is that, if Trump wins this election, then there is going to be some sudden, unannounced, U.S. government response against Putin, and that only after it is over, will the U.S. government explain to the public why it did what it did.

But, of course, that assumes Americans will still be alive, even if Russians are not; and, so, if the “proportionate” response turns out to be a blitz nuclear attack against Russia, then anyone who is still alive will be wondering: what was it ‘proportionate’ to?

The United States is no longer — at least not in Syria — actually fighting the thing that Trump calls “extremist Islamic terrorism”: we are instead arming Al Qaeda in Syria to overthrow and replace Putin’s ally, Bashar al-Assad, there. All of the U.S. government’s talk against “ISIL” (the Sauds’ preferred acronym for “ISIS”) is mere distraction from the tens of thousands of other jihadist fighters from other jihadist groups that have also been imported by the U.S. and Saudi governments into Syria as Obama’s and the Sauds’ “boots on the ground” to overthrow Assad there.

The leadership now for all of those jihadist groups (except for ISIS itself) is, in fact, Al Qaeda in Syria, which has gone under the name “al-Nusra.” Nusra is supplying the leadership now to all the jihadist factions that have been sent into Syria; Nusra is the only jihadist group that possesses the long experience and training in jihad and military matters, which is needed in order to be able to overthrow Assad. Al Qaeda is now America’s essential ally, at doing what the U.S. government most wants to do: overthrow and replace Assad.

The U.S. is deadly serious about that intention, as can be seen here from the NBC News preview video of their interview with Biden, from which the above quotations are sourced. Looking at Biden’s face there, one can see that this is deadly serious. This isn’t about sexual aggression — either Donald Trump’s or Bill Clinton’s — it’s about the survival of civilization, or else nuclear war.

There have been many reports in the U.S. press saying that Obama has, ever since at least October 6th, been contemplating an all-out U.S. bombing campaign to bring down Assad. But that would mean war with Russia, which has been actively bombing Nusra and all the other jihadists in Syria.

Hillary Clinton is urging a “no-fly zone” in Syria, so that we can do to Assad what we did to another ally of Moscow, Muammar Gaddafi. However, when that was done to Gaddafi, Putin stood aside and wasn’t supplying military assistance to Gaddafi, which would have enabled Gaddafi to wipe out the fundamentalist Muslims who were trying to overthrow him. Russia is involved actively, this time, to prevent happening in Syria what happened in Libya. A no-fly zone in Syria would thus mean U.S. war against Russia.

These are tense times. Any escalation that the U.S. can do against Russia, can be met by an escalation that Russia can do against the United States. Consequently, whatever escalation Obama is now threatening against Putin, might be met by an escalation on the other side. Where will it stop, or would it even be able to stop?

Whatever escalation Obama might consider to be ‘proportionate’, could consequently end up ending the world as we know it — and not for the better. Hillary Clinton has threatened Putin with war; now Barack Obama has done likewise.

Whatever Biden’s assignment here actually was from Obama, one thing about it is clear: this President is determined that Hillary Clinton be his successor, and Obama will target anyone who gets in his way if he doesn’t get his way on this. And Obama wants the American public to know that this is how he feels about the matter.

This Biden-interview is really intended, in that sense, to be a threat aimed at America’s voters, telling them, telling each one of us: Vote for Hillary Clinton, or else! He’s not telling us what that “or else!” is going to be — and maybe he himself has no accurate idea of how far it will ultimately cycle and go. Ultimately, whatever he thinks it would be, might not turn out to be the last step in this cycle of escalation — unless it’s going to go directly to a blitz attack against Russia.

Obama is thus coercing us, before he coerces Putin. He’s telling us: If we vote against Hillary Clinton — if she loses this election — then President Obama has something in mind that we won’t like — and he won’t wait until the next President is inaugurated on 20 January 2017 to do it, whatever ‘it’ might be.

Obama here is threatening not only Vladimir Putin, but the American people. Even if Obama truly believes that he alone possesses all the power, he does not, unless he possesses the power to terrorize America’s voters to elect Hillary Clinton, even if we otherwise would not.”
- http://russia-insider.com/

Related:
• “US Lights Fuse in Syria to World War III Countdown”
• "Obama Tells CIA To Prepare For Cyber War With Russia”
• "Russia Slams "Unprecedented, Insolent" US Cyber Threats, Vows Retaliation"
• "A Pretext Is Needed": A False Flag May Be Imminent To Drag U.S. Into War"
These are some very serious allegations. Anyone k... (show quote)


This is not about freedom, protecting human rights, terrorism or Democracy. This is about the control of the natural gas pipeline running through Syria. The Arab spring was instigated by those who control the west to bring instability to the ME. Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar are all complicit in this.

This crisis with Russia also serves a few other strategies. The Democrats and their banking masters will also use their Russian hacking propaganda to take control of our so called free elections to ensure the results they desire. Also consider the economy and the markets are ready to blow, they can use WWIII to mask their financial crimes. All wars are banker wars!

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