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Oct 5, 2016 11:20:05   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
lindajoy wrote:
I guess all those businesses, built and employing people doesn't count??

And in comparison to Hillary's 30 yrs of service what has she accomplished?? Any legislation of any kind??? Any for we, women, she is "going to support??

Any for the women she is going to support now, righttt.. 30 yrs and she hires them cheaper than male counter parts, doesn't promote from within with females, doesn't have them in high level positions etc, but now she's going to support them..

Ever see how many Trump does hire, how well they are paid and what positions they hold within his multi million dollar corporations??

Here's a little something you may wish to consider as well, while ms. Hillary runs her mouth about how bad Trump is..Rather hypocritical, given what she has done to women, with intent to brutally discredit them because of her figurehead husband...

http://conservativetribune.com/womens-group-statement-trump/
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Ever see how many Trump does hire, how well they are paid and what positions they hold within his multi million dollar corporations?

Have you?

As usual: you're making assumptions about my voting from my comments about ONE of the potential candidates. I don't mean this in a personal fashion, I just make that comment because I don't open every comment about a topic, which is Trump, with: "oh by the way, I'm not voting for Hillary either...". I stay on task and respond to the thesis. I shouldn't have to clarify myself about tangential information about Hillary or Jill Stein for that matter either. I don't owe you that, because that's not the topic: it's Trump.

With that in mind, there are other candidates, I bet you didn't know that either?

Trump has created a handful of jobs for friends and family. People who are overly willing to kowtow to his discreet and bizarre bullying. If these sycophants are so talented, couldn't they find a job someplace else? Don't you understand that running for president, if successful in his bid, will do little to help those he claims to wish to help? I've know many self employed people that pay as little as possible in taxes. That doesn't make Trump smart or others smart. He didn't serve in the military. He's been bankrupt for years and uses the tax code to his benefit (as anyone should) as corporations do and those wealthy enough to hide their money overseas. Do you pay taxes. I suspect you do. You've probably paid more than he has.

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Oct 5, 2016 15:28:20   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
padremike wrote:
The truth of the matter is that you're making many assumptions regarding Trump that aren't necessarily factual. Obama told us that if we want to really know who he is for us to look at the people he appointed to his administration. He appointed the most radical group of incompetent, activist misfits in any administration thus far in our history and the nation has suffered every way possible. There is not a single functioning office in the Federal Government, including the DOD, that hasn't been degraded because of Obama's lack of leadership. It all runs downhill from the top. Hillary was part of that administration and every time one of her advocates is asked, out of the blue, to name just one of her accomplishments they can't do it; they hit the thousand yard stare, the deer in the headlights. As a businessman Trump has surrounded himself with talented people and from what we're told he's not a tyrant as was Obama. He listens to his staff. I believe we ought to at least give Trump the same latitude as Obama and make our critique of him by the people he looks to for council. Obama was his own council, he didn't even listen to his generals and look at the mess he and Hillary have created around the world.
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How can I make any assumptions, he denies saying something and then he's called out on it...what exactly should I believe.

If his actions speak louder than words, it is pretty clear he wouldn't know the truth unless it caused him to shut his mouth.

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Oct 6, 2016 15:44:56   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
padremike wrote:
The truth of the matter is that you're making many assumptions regarding Trump that aren't necessarily factual. Obama told us that if we want to really know who he is for us to look at the people he appointed to his administration. He appointed the most radical group of incompetent, activist misfits in any administration thus far in our history and the nation has suffered every way possible. There is not a single functioning office in the Federal Government, including the DOD, that hasn't been degraded because of Obama's lack of leadership. It all runs downhill from the top. Hillary was part of that administration and every time one of her advocates is asked, out of the blue, to name just one of her accomplishments they can't do it; they hit the thousand yard stare, the deer in the headlights. As a businessman Trump has surrounded himself with talented people and from what we're told he's not a tyrant as was Obama. He listens to his staff. I believe we ought to at least give Trump the same latitude as Obama and make our critique of him by the people he looks to for council. Obama was his own council, he didn't even listen to his generals and look at the mess he and Hillary have created around the world.
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The following is from David Cay Johnston's chapter on Donald Trump's personal values in The Making of Donald Trump:

In 2005, Donald Trump flew to Colorado to give a motivational talk. Accompanying him were his wife, Melania, and a violent convicted felon and swindler named Felix Sater, who was helping Trump make two major development deals in Denver. Trump and Sater gave interviews to the Rocky Mountain News -- interviews that would prove to be significant a few years later. The three took a limousine an hour north to Loveland, solidly Republican territory where more than a thousand people had paid to hear Trump's advice on how to succeed in life and business.

Motivational speakers like Zig Ziglar and Tony Robbins work up audiences with carefully crafted talks. They make lofty appeals to people about vanquishing inner demons so a better self can flourish and dreams of success can morph into reality.

Trump's talk was nothing like that.

For more than an hour, Trump let fly one four-letter expletive after another. He had no prepared text, much less a rehearsed presentation. He ripped into the location and functionality of the Denver International Airport. The rambling remarks were rich with denunciations of former wives and former business associates. In vilifying a former employee, saying she had been disloyal, Trump gratuitously described her as "ugly as a dog."

"I have to tell you about losers," Trump told the audience. "I love losers because they make me feel so good about myself." Had Loveland's Bixpo 2005 conference invited a loser to speak, he assured the crowd, the fee would have been three dollars rather than the "freaking fortune" paid to Trump. However large the speaking fee had been, it did not motivate Trump to show enough respect for the paying audience to prepare even a simple outline. Many in the crowd said afterward that none of his talk was useful and certainly not uplifting.

However, within Trump's inchoate vitriol, some in the audience did identify two recommendations on how to succeed in life and business.

First, Trump advised, trust no one, especially good employees. "Be paranoid," he said, "because they are gonna try to fleece you." It was strange advice, as some in the audience told local reporters afterward, because trust is central to market capitalism. Businesspeople known for being trustworthy attract better workers, who in turn make their businesses run better. Trustworthy entrepreneurs make the economy more efficient by reducing friction in business deals. Business owners who are prudent about making promises and are known for honoring their word often go through life without a single lawsuit. Trump has been a party in more than 3,500 lawsuits, some of them accusing him of civil fraud (an issue we will examine in another chapter).

Second, Trump recommended revenge as business policy. "Get even," he said. "If somebody screws you, you screw 'em back ten times over. At least you can feel good about it. Boy, do I feel good."

Two years after the Loveland speech, Trump released Think Big, his twelfth book. Think Big was coauthored by Bill Zanker, founder of The Learning Annex, which runs classes on everything from pole dancing and making your own soap to writing business plans. Chapter 6 of Think Big is titled "Revenge."

"I always get even," Trump writes in the opening line of that chapter. He then launches into an attack on the same woman he had denounced in Colorado. Trump recruited the unnamed woman "from her government job where she was making peanuts"; her career going nowhere. "I decided to make her somebody. I gave her a great job at the Trump Organization, and over time she became powerful in real estate. She bought a beautiful home."

By voting (or rationalizing?) for Trump (and sending him money) you are paying to be supported by someone who thinks you're a loser.

Trump thinks you're a loser.

Hillary thinks you're deplorable.

Wow, you really put your arms around an idiot.

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Oct 6, 2016 22:58:07   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
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