pafret Loc: Northeast

A Successful Presidency Trump Vs Clinton

A friend e-mailed me about some political information I had sent him and it prompted me to consider the aftermath of the election. How likely is Trump to be a good president if he wins. And Similarly, what id Hillary wins. What are there Strengths and weakness.

Here is his query to me:
“I don’t know how you feel but I think we have the worst candidates possible.

Trump is a dictator who, if you don’t please him, he goes for the throat with a killer instinct.

What I also believe is if Trump goes after the foreign governments because they devaluate their currency to sell goods and put US companies out of business the governments responsible for those actions will have a major impact on the work force of their countries. The net result will be a major layoff within the affected governments and severe resentment within the countries against The USA.

If we look back in history to Germany and Japan the populations supported any political party that offered them a new day. I believe that day turned out to be the second world war.

In addition I would like to see US Companies forced to stay in the US or pay something to have their production done off shore. We also need to figure out how we are going to employ the millions of college graduates who would not ever consider working in a production factory job.

Hilary faces many of the same problems providing jobs for college graduates and addition problems getting the financial communities to accept or go for an increase in taxes. She also has a problem getting the special interest groups to support any changes that affect their businesses

PS: Bad candidates from both Democrats and Republicans, WE ARE SCREWED

Best regards, let me know how you feel about upcoming election”



My response:

The current crop of Presidential Candidates make me want to eat worms and die!

Trump makes idiotic statements in regard to NATO and Foreign policy in general. His idea of negotiating a deal is to threaten. This isn't a tactic to use with countries like China who hold most of our debt. I see our economy crashing about a month after Trump is elected. The Fed will stop propping up the market and Deutche Bank is going to crash and pull the whole world into another global recession. There are so many faults in Trump that it is almost insanity to vote for him.

If Hillary is elected it may take three or four months to meltdown but at this point a meltdown looks inevitable no matter which candidate wins.

Will Hillary try an FDR style make-work program like WPA? Will Trump do a deal, although with whom he will do that deal is cloudy? But I think the surplus of college graduates is not going to exist and with the dumbing down of college life most companies will resort to testing, and hire on a knowledge basis.

Most of those companies that are booking out have gotten massive subsidies from us and this is our recompense. I want to agree with him about Tariffing the hell out of their products but that just results in higher prices for us and no effect on the company. Clinton hasn’t said how she will stem job loss because she is still chanting the mantra of untold numbers of new jobs and wealth to astonish Croseus flowing into our pockets. Tell that to Wal-Mart or any of the other chains that have dumped thousands of jobs and closed stores for lack of customers. Tell that to anyone on a fixed income who has needed to alter the nature of the food he eats and its quality level, because the cost is going up at a bout a 20% rate for meat potatoes and toilet paper. I am sure it is holding steady for mansions at the beach but we are not buying those..

Can you contemplate Hillary and Bill Clinton back in the White House? A convicted perjurer and sex offender, a liar, a thief a subverter of justice and careless twit with the nations secrets. Her plans will destroy this country and no amount of lying about jobs that were created or middle class wealth increase or minimal inflation will fix that. H1B invaders oust Americans from the jobs they hold because they work cheaper and our govt. facilitates that.

Her track record on war is insane, when the hell did it become our responsibility to fix every bad guy in the whole world? Why was it necessary to kill Kadaffi?

The government and the Beaurocracies have always been problematic but I don't know of any period in our history when it was as blatantly corrupt as it is today. The FBI murders citizens; the justice department refuses to prosecute criminal behavior and instead prosecutes states for enforcing Federal law. Hillary if elected will continue this travesty and Trump hass committed to correcting it.

If you want more depression check out this New Yorker Magazine article on Trump.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/09/26/president-trumps-first-term

Trump bases his credentials on his abilities to do deals and run successful companies. There is one significant difference; the employees of the company are all invested in doing the job laid out for them. Their paycheck depends on performance in support of whatever enterprise he runs. He does not have active opposition within his domain. His executives are all lined up to support him and they compete to assure the goals are achieved.

This will not be the case in the federal government. He cannot compel the Congress, he cannot compel the Federal alphabet groups because they have tenure and can't be fired. Worse, most of them are little kingdoms with their own tyrants who do what they please.

He will not be effective, he is an outsider and has not built up the necessary reservoir of favors, owed and granted. Too many of his own party have declared themselves in opposition to him so his ability to get necessary legislation is dubious and this might lead to another Obama style government resorting to executive order instead of law. This in turn sets the stage for the “strong man” ideology that produced Hitler.

Hillary is the quintessential insider -- member of the Trilateral commission, the Bilderbergs and the CFA and from their membership you know that is the dark government. Her pay to play charity has spread the wealth around such that she has key players in every area beholden to her. The connections are astonishing, the key players in various hold secretive board memberships in companies favored with Clinton Foundation supported business. Her reach is like the hydra, with heads in the FBI, EPA, CIA and who knows how many more groups the Clintons have corrupted. And like the hydra, every time one head is exposed or cut off, two more replace it.

Clinton would undoubtedly have the contacts and clout to run the government and that is the terrifying aspect. If she only follows through on immigration she will destroy the country. Add in all of the rest of her programs, higher taxes on everybody, destruction of coal industry in favor of technologically unfeasible solar and wind energy, ending oil production in this country and her ever-lasting desire to destroy other countries and she is a nightmare. Once she becomes president she will stack the Supreme Court with Ruth Ginsburgs and you can kiss religion good-by and freedom along with it. Also, all those freebie programs like free college. Who gets to go? Inner city black dunderhead high school dropouts, children of illegal immigrants, refugees, the only category not getting free stuff will be white children of working parents.

The situation with Germany was brought about by the punitive measures imposed that kept the country in depression seemingly forever, That madman Hitler basically intended to seize control from the beginning and the Germans went along because he promised -improvement in their prosperity. He was able to convince enough Germans to get control even though most of the intelligentsia ridiculed him and after he started the country back towards prosperity they were done. Trump may go the same way but I don't think he has the monomania to pull it off. I could be wrong, he is certainly demonizing illegals and moslems, both of which are popular villains right now. In Germany it was Jews, here it is Mexicans.

Japan was a whole other problem, their expansionist drive put them in opposition to the major European powers and they, together with the US effectively blocked their empire expansion. After the Nanking massacre, the naval blockade screws got tightened, leading to Dec 7 1941 bombing of Pearl Harbor. Right now, for Japan read China and neither Trump or Clinton is another FDR.

With all of the countries with nuclear weapons we really can't afford Hillary attacking indiscriminately. Her debacle in Libya shows that she had no better grasp of Geo-Politics than Trump does. Kaddafi was the barrier to the Caliphate cooties and she took him out and armed the jihadists we are fighting in Syria. By the way, what has Assad done that we need to get rid of him? Did he stick a gun in your ribs or take your wallet? And what kind of a fight is it when you fly air support for the people you are trying to exterminate? All of this makes me wonder who's in charge because none of it makes sense. It looks like someone is deliberately goading Russia into a war.

While we are talking about the military, what will Hillary do for our troops other than find some other hell hole for them to die in? With her contempt for “lesser” mortals I can’t believe she will restrain her use of deadly force. Trump promises better treatment for our vets but I haven’t heard how he is going to keep them in one piece, to begin with. I’m gonna do a deal doesn’t cut it. One should also remember that every lying politician promises to reform the VA hospital and Veterans medical treatment and that has been going on since WWI. And hasn’t happened yet.

In all of this I feel we are looking at Kabuki Theater through a bed sheet. Some key information is missing such as who profits from these incessant wars. What provocation were we given and it must be remembered that starting with Viet Nam the official causes are ultimately proved to be lies.

At this point I regard a Clinton presidency as a swift descent into slavery and total loss of freedom across the whole bill of rights. Trump has his own set of zits when it comes to some of those articles and simply because he champions gun rights doesn’t mean he is a rigorous constitutionalist.

There are so many faults in Trump that it is almost insanity to vote for him. There are so many faults in Clinton that it is almost insanity to vote for her. Vote we must and at this point Trump is a hand grenade tossed into the crowded room of corrupt government. Hillary is that corrupt government.

Comments please.

boofhead

You are right; we are in a very dangerous place right now because either one will bring this great nation to it's knees. I personally believe that the bigger danger is from Hillary but she is at least pragmatic and will back off if opposed, whereas Trump, who owes no allegiance to the "system" and who will come at anyone who criticizes him like a rabid pit bull, could be such a loose cannon that he could sink this ship of state even before we realize it.

The next couple of years will be interesting indeed.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

One of my main issues are people that feel he is speaking to them:

...and yet he has 10 years or more to speak to them and offer them jobs.

Are any of his businesses aimed at the blue collar workers he glorifies: nope.

He has created good paying, satisfying work that adds to the economy by creating more jobs: nope. (He has without refrain gone bankrupt and then hides behind an audit)

He has a sustainable plan for cutting taxes and reducing the deficit: nope.

The most important items that our current electorate would like to see and yet he has done none of them.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I guess all those businesses, built and employing people doesn't count??

And in comparison to Hillary's 30 yrs of service what has she accomplished?? Any legislation of any kind??? Any for we, women, she is "going to support??

Any for the women she is going to support now, righttt.. 30 yrs and she hires them cheaper than male counter parts, doesn't promote from within with females, doesn't have them in high level positions etc, but now she's going to support them..

Ever see how many Trump does hire, how well they are paid and what positions they hold within his multi million dollar corporations??

Here's a little something you may wish to consider as well, while ms. Hillary runs her mouth about how bad Trump is..Rather hypocritical, given what she has done to women, with intent to brutally discredit them because of her figurehead husband...

http://conservativetribune.com/womens-group-statement-trump/

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

The truth of the matter is that you're making many assumptions regarding Trump that aren't necessarily factual. Obama told us that if we want to really know who he is for us to look at the people he appointed to his administration. He appointed the most radical group of incompetent, activist misfits in any administration thus far in our history and the nation has suffered every way possible. There is not a single functioning office in the Federal Government, including the DOD, that hasn't been degraded because of Obama's lack of leadership. It all runs downhill from the top. Hillary was part of that administration and every time one of her advocates is asked, out of the blue, to name just one of her accomplishments they can't do it; they hit the thousand yard stare, the deer in the headlights. As a businessman Trump has surrounded himself with talented people and from what we're told he's not a tyrant as was Obama. He listens to his staff. I believe we ought to at least give Trump the same latitude as Obama and make our critique of him by the people he looks to for council. Obama was his own council, he didn't even listen to his generals and look at the mess he and Hillary have created around the world.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

THANK YOU, padremike...Well said..

Allowing the same latitude resonates with what is truly needed, without all the manipulation and lies ...and I say this meaning both candidates..

Media manipulation so obvious it truly is pathetic.."Same lattitude"??? Not in this election....

pafret Loc: Northeast

You are correct about the assumptions, but they are based on some of his known actions. I was attempting to predict what his Presidency would look like and I am not as confident as you that he will be able to transfer his business acumen to politics. Politics in general is a dirty, treacherous business and while he is a shark, playing on home ground counts a lot. He needs to get up to speed, in a lot of areas, very quickly and the problem I forsee is that the Foreign Affairs arena is the most dangerous, to our nation, and this is where he is weakest. That is not to say that Hillary would be better, her performance as Sect State shows she doesn't know s--- from shinola either. Stupid, incompetent or just venal and corrupt, she was a failure.

I read about his war room of advisors and the people being contacted as advisors. My main concern is that he has Chris Christie heading up this effort. I am not impressed by Gov Christie. Newt Gingrich undoubtedly knows which levers to push and where the bodies are buried.

Hillary -- well lets just say she would make a maqgot vomit. But, there is no denying she is the inside "man" at the skunk works.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I have more confidence in a businessman than a third rate community organizer who never grew an inch in eight years with the solemnity of his office but only doubled down on his arrogance, incompetence and narcissism and his ability to blame someone or some thing other than himself.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Well Padre it was certainly no secret at the time he announced his candidacy that he had zip for credentials. He also made no bones about what he intended to do to the country. The uninformed electorate along with the sentimental fools, who thought it would be nice to have a back fellow as president, combined to put that mountebank in office. Black racism helped keep him there. We might as well have elected JO-JO the Dog faced Boy since even freaks deserve respect and prestige.

I was opposed to him from the very start and my son and I were agreed that this guy getting elected would be the worst disaster this country ever faced. Of course, I am a racist and this situation validates my viewpoint. It is astounding that people are still singing his praise based on falsified economic data and he claims credit for a booming economy with a straight face.

From the adulation he was greeted with one would believe his Presidency was the second coming. Hosannas to the honky hater. Hail to the Prevaricator-in-Chief.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

I'm just not that pessimistic.

While the national political discussion seems to be out of kilter and non productive, I find that wherever I've been in the nation I find good and decent people. Americans seem to work well together at the local and state levels....much more so than at the national level. Perhaps the national politics is a little more abstract and less amenable to the 'what can we do to fix this problem' that Americans excel at, but that spirit still rules at the level closest to the people.

While I agree that we seem to be melting down on the federal level, Americans are still at it and functioning well at the lower levels. One just doesn't hear the level vitriol in local elections. We, as a nation, will survive if either candidate gets elected because of that.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I couldn't agree with you more. I'm not a racist but I am sick to death tired of race and sexual orientation (perversion) falsely sucking up all the oxygen. And there are thousands of other things that are more damaging than someone, black or white, being a racist. Aborting an innocent child is even worse than slavery but consider the number of Americans who think abortion is a blessing to women.

pafret Loc: Northeast

The interesting thing about the abortion industry is that the majority of abortions are performed on black women and the founder of Planned "Parenthood", Margaret Sanger, was an avowed racist whose expressed purpose was the extinction of the blacks in the USA. Yet no blacks are rioting in front of those agencies. They riot when a black hoodlum is killed by the police; they beat random white people because they are the oppressor. Yet, they do not attack the abortion mills where black innocents are murdered on a daily basis.

Also, the number of practitioners, of the homosexual perversion, is supposed to be less than three percent of the populace. (Ten per cent if you believe their claims). Of that three per cent, what portion can possibly be all of the other mental aberrations they claim are known alternate genders? For this miniscule number of individuals, who need custodial care, we allow their plight to dominate all other issues. (According to a 2015 Gallop poll, 3.8% of the adult population identified themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender)

This nation was founded on the principle of the common good for all of the people and common sense will tell you there is no one size fits all. Instead of the common good of the majority we now have the tyranny of the minority. The rights of these few override religious rights, free speech rights, and most of the other God given rights. When did the "rights" of so few individuals become of paramount importance?

Applying the same logic, we were wrong to convict John Wayne Gacy, because he was only following his preferred dietary regime and he had a "right" to do so. He should have been cited for bravery and celebrated on the cover of Time Magazine.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Quick correction, not Gacy but Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer had the munchies.

valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"

I'm hoping that 1st he will try to fix some of the problems that we have here in the USA as that is our main concern at this time. Toomuch corruption in our own ranks and then try to solve the international problems. Hilliary is lying about fixing things here as it would take too much money out of her pocket and she will go straight to international problems and leave things here like they are. I have problems with both of them but we only have two choices.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Agreed, this nation is faced with enormous problems at home and in the world. I don't see either candidate as being of a caliber needed for the challenge. Hillary has a proven track record of failure and only promises status quo and much more of the same. Trump promises to change some of the policies that got us into our current prdicaments and in essence is Obama light. His simplistic statements like "I'm gonna make Mexico pay for thast wall" are asinine at best.

Most of the politicians who competed with Trump failed to read the tea leaves. The rise of the TEA party and the mid-term return of control of the House of Reps to the Republicans was not a mandate for their failed policies. Instead it was a cri de cœur against the Government in general and this presaged Trump's popular appeal. He is the epitome of anti-government; an individual whose glaring faults and deficiencies are of no import beside his potential to be a dirty bomb inside the beltway.

The people are tired of our royals who lie, cheat, steal. They are amoral cretins who are above the law while they practice 'noblesse oblige' and tell us we should let them yoke us because "That's not who we are" when we protest. I for one hope Trump is at least a hundred megaton bomb.