lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Woohooo, those Federalist papers certain do define intent behind the writing...An education in Historical thought,themselves!!!

Right You are!!

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Convenient facts to forget (or ignore) if one is pushing a narrative, eh?

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

I agree completely that the discussion around the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment, with its reference to a "well organized militia" is a fascinating one. And a topic I think we should be talking about. But the right of individuals to bear arms has been affirmed by SCOTUS and is unlikely to be reversed. So the discussion is a purely intellectual and emotional one. Beware of stirring up the electorate about an issue that is not going to be changed.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Well said and agreed, Paul!!! SCOTUS has ruled, not once but twice in the affirmative in our right to own...

Diversity of that issue alone will never change and certainly not the issue of own what??? A RIFLE, hand guns, Ak15 etc...

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

"A well regulated militia" I'm for regulating and taxing the shit out of the "militia".

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Except for the small US standing army that existed in 1860, virtually every regiment during the Civil War was raised from local volunteers by a ""block captain" as you call him. The colonel of the regiment may have been a local banker, a lawyer, a mayor, a butcher, a baker, or a candlestick maker, even a pastor. And in many cases volunteers came together and chose or elected their own colonel, company officers and non-coms. (The Iron Brigade--the Black Hats--is a fine example: this brigade consisted of the 2nd, 6th, and 7th Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry Regiments, and the 19th Indiana. Later on it was joined by the 24th Michigan. The Black Hats served with distinction throughout the war)

This voluntary raising of regiments occurred on both sides. And, many of those leaders and their regiments acquitted themselves admirably on the battlefield. The very same thing occurred in raising the Continental Army to fight the Revolutionary War.

In all these threads about guns and the 2nd amendment, we have established that, in the late 1700s, the phrase "well-regulated" had a quite different meaning than how it is interpreted today. And, as the founders have made clear in many of their writings, both private and official, the "militia" consisted of ALL men with arms and the ability to use them. The NG is NOT a state militia, never was, never will be.

One thing is certain in any and all "discussions" on the meaning of the 2nd amendment, in every case in which an anti-gun, anti-2nd amendment leftist offers his "interpretation", it is guaranteed to be wrong.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Damn well written!!! Fantastic recitation of the facts, blade...As is your norm..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Ohhh you do tell it true...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Without the "people " there is no ability to have a milia.....The right of the people to protect themselves against tyranny, if threatened, yes?? Would that be a militia formed by the government???? Of course not...

jeff smith

THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALE NOT BE INFRINGED UPON! this IS the last half of the 2 nd. Amendment! this was set up this way so if any outide enemy was to invade this great country we would have the civilian force to help in support of the military. like the French underground of W.W.II , or the V.C. for the N.V.A. it was ALSO established so in the event that our own government was to get to tyrannical or dictatoreal we the people could take up arms to end their , what the bulls leave in the fields. it is only those who wish to do this country a disservice and eventually destroy us as a nation who are at the helm of taking our rights away. WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED, THEN I WILL BE AN OUTLAW. GOD help us all.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I'll send you my payment in lead, you can then make a deposit in a blood bank.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

moldyoldy

It is the right that keeps bringing up this subject. The NRA uses any attempt at reform to sell more guns. Saying that they are coming for your guns. But the public, by a large majority, wants some changes to it harder for certain people to get guns. The NRA does not want to discuss any changes.

son of witless

This needs to be constantly rammed down LIBERALS THROATS. To anyone who believes that Liberals like Obama and Hitlery will not " infringe " on the Second Amendment all you have to do is listen to Obama's threats to bypass Congress and issue executive anti gun orders. Once Hitlery packs the Court with Leftwing lunatics she will have the power he did not. Her stooges on the Court will not dare oppose her when she issues executive orders outlawing every gun except muskets.

Judges are mostly ex lawyers. Lawyers as a whole are not known for their honesty. Left wing lawyers combine basic dishonesty with the need to control the liberty of their fellow citizens. Allowing Scumocrats to fully control the Supreme Court will seal the destruction of American begun under Barry Insane Obama.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia