Glaucon

It sounds like you hate having to pay taxes and you hate America. I also hate paying for the goods and services we provide for us, but I think taxes are necessary and no modern society has ever been able to exist without taxes. Complaining about having to pay on our national credit card. It seem we will always have hate, death and taxes and we can only do something about one of them.

Glaucon

[quote=Glaucon]It sounds like you hate having to pay taxes and you hate America. I also hate paying for the goods and services we provide for us, but I think taxes are necessary and no modern society has ever been able to exist without them. It seem fruitless to be omplaining about having to pay on our national credit card.

It seem we will always have hate, death and taxes and we can only do something about one of them, of we decide to do so.

Glaucon

The solution is simple: don't vote for those bad politicians. Yeah think?

RETW Loc: Washington

When are you ever going to learn, no one gives a flying fig what you think. You still remain an arrogant, obnoxious, twisted,
insufferable, TROLL.

Your babbling is designed to pontificate only you. Booooooooooooo Oh, did I tell you your intellectual incompetence
is showing. Don't believe me, look in the mirror. There you will find the only person that cares.


RETW

Glaucon

Apparently you "give a flying fig what I think." You responded to a comment I made to someone else with a vicious personal attack on me, I think most folks would have to believe you give more of a flying fig than you are aware.

I understand and I hold no hard feelings. Feel free to let out as much of that rage and hate as you need to when commenting to me. It will make you feel a bit better for a short time and does me no harm or concern. I can be your mirror if you are able to reach out at least a little bit.

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

But then again he was correct the in his description of your character spook.
😭😭😭

Glaucon

You are feeling a huge (to quote the Trumpster) load of rage and hate and I don't mind that you use it to attack me. I take no offense and I understand.

You are a much better human being than you are allowing us to see.

Hit man

Keep it up Glaucon you are beginning to hit paydirt.



LIVE FxREE OR DIE!!!

Glaucon

RESPONSE:

I don't think he knows anything about me and my character. However, when the hate rages rage, anything proves anything you need it to think you prove.

I understand you and I hope the best for you in the remaining years of your life.

For some reason, I apparently scare the hell out of you and that doesn't help you at all. I suggest we quit my attempts at some communication and your attacks and now would be a good time to quit whatever it is we have been doing.

Don't protest way too much that I don't scare the hell out of you and don't do the, "it isn't you who scare me it is me who scares you defensive nonsense, a Clasdsic YOO TOO.

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

You don't understand any thing you are about the lamest spook I ever known of. Your Jack Russel is a highly intelligent dog the problem you have controlling him is your not nearly as smart as your dog. You live in never never land. Check back after you seek professional help for your deteriorating mental condition.

Glaucon

I am reasonably sure you are a very much better human being than we would guess from your posts.

I know that getting the last word is extremely important to you people, so I am going to send this comment and allow you to make the last word and then I am gong to push the ignore button. Have at it and let the hell fires burn. I know you have a very lot of nasty not yet spewed. SPEW IT!!!

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

Typical cowardly spook, now go to your safe place. And you are lying little prick you pushed that button on me long ago. You dared respond to some one else's thread. You are not safe here!

Owl32 Loc: ARK

AMEN , all AMERICANS should know that it is how one thinks that determines who he becomes.........and the sucess of the produce of his labors, These will be well received by all MEN( males & females).

Morgan

Well I for one appreciate your comments, and I have to say paying taxes for our benefit I greatly appreciate. Keeping in mind the tax does not go beyond a certain percent. But I happen to appreciate pubic schools, roads and bridges, police and the military, all admittedly social programs to benefit all.

Has anyone ever lived in a community not attached within the state's jurisdiction, roads barely exist and when they do the same few people pay for its upkeep, if there isn't a community association attached to every home, another words it hard to collect money from people when it is solely based on generosity.

One more point if all roads were privately owned we'd all being paying tolls all over the place and at the price of supply and demand, that could be some heavy tolls.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

There is proper, constitutional taxes. We have them.
The Marxist graduated income tax is not one of them; in that it is incorrectly applied to 99% of the population. Quite a scam.
Google; Cracking the Code, Lost Horizons; if you are curious.

Cracking the Code- The Fascinating Truth About Taxation In America

by Peter E. Hendrickson

Reviewed by Steve Thomas

Any student of liberty and of the founding of the United States has to know intuitively that the current tax code of our federal government could have never been the intention of our Founding Fathers. One can take it as a given that the Founders would be disheartened and outraged by the growth and perversion of the federal government – and the abuse of power it employs in collecting taxes from the people.



I have often wondered how much different the course of American history would be if an economist like Milton Friedman or James Buchanan – with two hundred years of hindsight – could be transported back in time to advise the Founders on Constitutional issues like taxation. Perhaps they could provide the Founders with insights that would have made the Constitution impervious to time and the “factions” that so troubled them.



In his recently published book, Cracking The Code: The Fascinating Truth About Taxation In America, libertarian author Peter Eric Hendrickson makes it perfectly clear that America’s Founders were very much aware of the dangers associated with the federal government’s power to tax. Accordingly, they established a wholly viable system of checks and balances within the Constitution to prevent the federal government from abusing its taxing power. Hendrickson also points out that the Founders actually had a renowned economist (if indirectly) advising them: a capable Scotsman by the name of Adam Smith.



The Constitution calls for direct taxes (i.e., those which are unavoidable) to be apportioned according to each state’s population. That means that federal taxes are supposed to be collected from the states proportionate to their percentage of the nation’s total population – not directly from individuals.



Even the Sixteenth Amendment, which is widely misunderstood as having established an “income” tax, actually represents only a slight modification of the tax already in place at the time of its proposal. It did not change the Constitution’s restriction on direct taxation.



Nonetheless, a widespread misunderstanding of the effects of that amendment has successfully been exploited to convince Americans that everything changed in 1913. People wrongly believe that the amendment gives the government the legal ability to take citizen’s property at will – but nothing could be further from the truth, says Hendrickson. There’s a reason why we hear all the time that it’s a ‘voluntary’ system, and it’s not because we all ‘volunteer’ to save the government the trouble of doing the paperwork.



It is Hendrickson’s contention that the only people from whom the federal government can legally demand an “income” tax are those who are direct beneficiaries of the federal government. Such parties would include federal employees, contractors and those who benefit from government licensing. In other words, if you are a private citizen who earns a salary, Hendrickson claims that you do not have to pay “income” taxes – including FICA – to the federal government.



Don’t believe him? Then go to Hendrickson’s website (www.losthorizons.com) and bear witness to the unthinkable: a letter from the IRS acknowledging that his claim of “money improperly withheld.” is valid. But don’t expect your accountant or attorney to jump on Hendrickson’s bandwagon any time soon. Their jobs – and those of millions of others – depend on your confusion and fear when it comes to the IRS and the bewildering tax code it enforces.



Cracking The Code is a product of the information age. The Internet and its search engines allowed Hendrickson to not only wade through the entire tax code, but to investigate and cross-reference its content: all 3,413,780 words of it. What Hendrickson found is that the tax code, regardless of its confusing and misleading language, is consistent with the Constitution’s original restriction on direct taxes – and that there is no legal way for the federal government to enforce an “income” tax on the labor or earnings of private citizens. Hendrickson cites clear and consistent case law throughout the book to back his claim – including a plethora from the United States Supreme Court.



Readers of Cracking The Code will undoubtedly experience a paradigm shift in their thinking as they make their way through its pages. Skepticism and doubt will slowly be replaced with certainty and conviction as Hendrickson systematically walks his readers through the law and the tax code’s maze of confusion. But it won’t come easy.



As Thomas Paine once wrote in Common Sense, “ . . . a long habit of not thinking something wrong, gives it the superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom.” Paine’s wisdom undoubtedly applies to the sentiments most Americans have when it comes to the way income taxes are imposed upon them.



There’s no shortage of frivolous books on the market that make the claim that you can avoid taxes. Cracking The Code is not one of them. It is a judicious and thoughtful work written by an American patriot deeply dedicated to the rule of law. Hopefully, this book will find its way into the hands of concerned citizens, legal scholars and federal judges who truly believe in upholding the Constitution – and who are sympathetic to the cause of liberty.