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Is The "Immigration Problem" more of a "Capitalism Problem" ?
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Jun 29, 2016 15:11:05   #
kburns50
 
PeterS wrote:
How are they new voters? Explain how someone here illegally can register to vote in this country....


Ask a Democrat......

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Jun 29, 2016 15:12:01   #
PeterS
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I can understand the Democrats' position re: voters. That's part of the reality of politics; one doesn't get elected without votes so they must be found wherever they might exist. Republicans are bound by this reality as well, hence their courting of the far right votes. Do you actually think most Republicans agree with the hard right moral stance of conservative Christians? I doubt it, but they realize the group is an important block in their base, so they must court them to win.

The first rule, regardless of one's position, is that politics is a dirty, nasty business.
I can understand the Democrats' position re: voter... (show quote)

How do illegal aliens vote? Would someone explain that to me. I had to show a birth certificate and I think three forms of ID. How do illegals get away with less?

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Jun 29, 2016 15:16:08   #
PeterS
 
kburns50 wrote:
Ask a Democrat......

I'm a democrat and had to show a birth certificate and proof that I was a citizen of the sate I was in. How does an illegal alien get by with less?

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Jun 29, 2016 15:17:54   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
Who's inviting illegals to come in knowing they will be taken advantage of? Of course they are taken advantage of--that's exactly what the meme said. So long as business hires illegals they will find a way across the border. There isn't a single conservative out there who want's to stop business from hiring illegals which means you have no real desire to see the problem go away...

The feds want businesses to hire illegals. That's why they refuse to do anything to stop it.

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Jun 29, 2016 15:25:39   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
Super Dave wrote:
The feds want businesses to hire illegals. That's why they refuse to do anything to stop it.


Hmmm. If by Feds you mean Congress then the blame would go to Republicans, who control both the Senate and the House, no?
If you meant something else, please explain.

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Jun 29, 2016 15:27:03   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
PeterS wrote:
How do illegal aliens vote? Would someone explain that to me. I had to show a birth certificate and I think three forms of ID. How do illegals get away with less?


Excellent catch Peter. I fell into the trap of lumping illegal aliens in with all folks of Hispanic descent (which is the group we are really talking about here.)
My bad, for which I apologize.

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Jun 29, 2016 15:58:34   #
JimMe
 
PeterS wrote:
They also aren't here illegally. The have legit visa's to come into this country and pick for us. The illegals are in other industries, largely construction and domestic, and after someone has been here for X number of years with children born here you run into a situation where it's immoral to break up families. That's the same reason Reagan gave amnesty in 86 and the same reason we should work out something today. The wake up call though is simply to start nailing the businesses that are hiring them. If they can't get jobs they will go home...
They also aren't here illegally. The have legit vi... (show quote)



MANY of the Farmhands DO NOT have Visas... I have known Legal Immigrants who have ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT RELATIVES who worked on farms... But today, MANY ILLEGALS ARE TAKING PERMANENT JOBS AND ARE LOOKING TO STAY IN OUR USA EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY...

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Jun 29, 2016 16:15:16   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Hmmm. If by Feds you mean Congress then the blame would go to Republicans, who control both the Senate and the House, no?
If you meant something else, please explain.

I meant both parties.

I vote for and support imperfect candidates and parties, but I don't lie for them.

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Jun 29, 2016 16:25:04   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
The feds want businesses to hire illegals. That's why they refuse to do anything to stop it.


And why would "the feds" want business to hire illegals over American citizens? You're saying government wants to increase unemployment and suppress wages? What political party benefits if unemployment is high and wages are low?

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Jun 29, 2016 16:44:22   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
And why would "the feds" want business to hire illegals over American citizens? You're saying government wants to increase unemployment and suppress wages? What political party benefits if unemployment is high and wages are low?

Democrats as a party benefit. Elitist Republicans benefit individually.

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Jun 29, 2016 17:13:05   #
JimMe
 
PeterS wrote:
And why would "the feds" want business to hire illegals over American citizens? You're saying government wants to increase unemployment and suppress wages? What political party benefits if unemployment is high and wages are low?



The DemLib-Rino-Socialists Win... Party Allegiance is MOOT... Political Control is EVERYTHING...

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Jun 29, 2016 22:17:44   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
PeterS wrote:
How do illegal aliens vote? Would someone explain that to me. I had to show a birth certificate and I think three forms of ID. How do illegals get away with less?


Why do you think the Dems are so against voter ID?

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Jun 29, 2016 22:22:59   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Why do you think the Dems are so against voter ID?
That would be for votes and keeping Americans on the government teat.

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Jun 29, 2016 22:51:36   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
PaulPisces wrote:
While I definitely think this meme oversimplifies issues with illegal immigration, it does call out a critical part that few seem to be willing to recognize.


http://redoubtnews.com/blog/2016/06/28/cows-investigates-twin-falls-child-rape/

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Jun 30, 2016 06:51:43   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PeterS wrote:
I'm a democrat and had to show a birth certificate and proof that I was a citizen of the sate I was in. How does an illegal alien get by with less?


Same way you did,from Pedro's discount ID's and passports.

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